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I just got mine from a friend....

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GAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH I just heard a clip from Satyricon's Now, Diabolical from the song "A New Enemy". GAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH it sounds like slipknot! Same pounding drum style, same guitar licks, etc... maybe it's more metal, but still! It's fucking disturbing.


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Ghoul if you ever compare Satyricon to Slipknot again I will cut open your abdominal region and eat your spleen.


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At 7/13/06 12:31 AM, MetalWarriorFromHell wrote:
At 7/12/06 12:56 AM, tom3rulz wrote:

i bet my friend 10$ he couldn't find sunO))) on limewire. i won. it was pitiful.
Right. You can't search for Sunn 0))) because of the parentheses.

that's why it was so funny. i also bet him (not for money because he wouldnt) that he couldnt find crebain or xasthur. i won those bets as well. and i listened to a sample fo a sunn0))) song blazed shitless, not sure which one, but it was a 4 minute sample and i like it. i think it was off of a record called like "black one" or something and the song title had something to do with winter demons. i was way too blazed to remember though....

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At 7/14/06 05:37 PM, CowsCanBark wrote: Ghoul if you ever compare Satyricon to Slipknot again I will cut open your abdominal region and eat your spleen.

Ok. Do that. New Satyricon sucks fucking ass. It's WAYYYY too ear-friendly. After a few minutes, it fades into the background. I'm sorry, but Now, Diabolical is the next step in Satyricon's change into total Mallcore.

Old Satyricon fucking rawkks, but their new shit is just that -- shit.


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New Satyricon is Black Metal marketed to the mallcore crowd. It probably does have some lame riffs in it, and I feel bad for Frost, he's like my favorite drummer (glad he still has 1349 amongst others).

But Dark Medieval Times (and even Nemesis Divina, to a lesser extent) is a fuckin classic, and it owns. Its hard to reproduce that, so I guess they went in the opposite direction.


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satyricon, in my mind, HAS gone mallcore already. they have advertisements for now.diabolical in HOT TOPIC. hot topic is essentially the dying ground for bands. their new sound sucks too, it has its moments, but im not going to pick up their cd.

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At 7/17/06 03:16 AM, tom3rulz wrote: satyricon, in my mind, HAS gone mallcore already. they have advertisements for now.diabolical in HOT TOPIC. hot topic is essentially the dying ground for bands. their new sound sucks too, it has its moments, but im not going to pick up their cd.

Ughhh... Again, I wouldn't know about whether Satyricon are in hot topic or not, cuz ours overon the west coast are so lame that all they have are emocore hoodies and metalcore hoodies. fucking mallcore... But yeah... New Satyricon is fucking mallcore...


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At 7/17/06 03:53 PM, MetalWarriorFromHell wrote:

:: Satyricon is fucking mallcore...

Even taken out of context, that is fucking sad...


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At 7/17/06 09:15 PM, X_Imperium_X wrote:
At 7/17/06 03:53 PM, MetalWarriorFromHell wrote:
Satyricon is fucking mallcore...
Even taken out of context, that is fucking sad...

Well, it's basically simple, poppy "blackened" metal marketed towards mallkids. It is fucking sad, even when IN context.


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I wonder what prompted Satyr to go in that direction. Could it've been money? Love of doing the EXACT WRONG THING? Meh, I guess they were going in that direction anyway...


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I like the new Satyricon, it has a black 'n roll feel to it (much like Entombed's death 'n roll material).

All these great old school bands seem to be turning/are already mallcore (well not really CORE, more like mall metal) like Satyricon, Decide, Darkthrone, Cannibal Corpse, Blind Guardian, ect. It's quite interesting, as not all of these bands are bad at all nowadays...hell some still fucking slay. So in my opinion being cool with metalcore/nu-metal fans does not make a band sucky or bad at all, it all just boils down to personal opinion, I suppose.

However, if you're not listening to something just because it's trendy or mainstream then that's jjust idiotic. Who cares if it's mainstream, if you like it listen to it!

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Nah Cows, I still like old In Flames, the new Lamb of God (did you hear the single? It pwns) and a bunch of other popular music. I just don't like the direction its heading in. Yeah, it is personal preference.


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At 7/18/06 01:12 PM, CowsCanBark wrote: I like the new Satyricon, it has a black 'n roll feel to it (much like Entombed's death 'n roll material).

Sure, black n' roll. Fliegenpilz is black n' roll. Some of Burzum's material is black n' roll (Stemmen Fra Taarnet, Lost Wisdom, Det Som Engang Var, En Ring Til Aa Herske, Black Spell of Destruction, Ea, Lord of the Deeps, etc...). Satyricon is just black "metal" minus the intensity and good songwriting. Again, the guitar riffs and numetal pounding sound so mallcore.

There's a difference between metalcore and mallcore; mall core is music marketed towards mallkids. That's all it is. I don't know why people always think it's synonymous with metalcore. Aside from that, mallcore IS NEVER A GOOD THING. It was intended to be an insult, just like numetal. Numetal was an insult tag given to bands like Korn and Limp Bizkit by real metalheads to distinguish it from the real thing. MALLCORE IS A FUCKING INSULT.


All these great old school bands seem to be turning/are already mallcore (well not really CORE, more like mall metal) like Satyricon, Decide, Darkthrone, Cannibal Corpse, Blind Guardian, ect. It's quite interesting, as not all of these bands are bad at all nowadays...hell some still fucking slay. So in my opinion being cool with metalcore/nu-metal fans does not make a band sucky or bad at all, it all just boils down to personal opinion, I suppose.

Hold it right there. Blind Guardian? What weed have you been smoking? I can understand the rest. Mall-anything is never good. That means it's commercial pap marketed towards moneyed suburban teenagers.

However, if you're not listening to something just because it's trendy or mainstream then that's jjust idiotic. Who cares if it's mainstream, if you like it listen to it!

It's not that which I care about. It's the fact that it's MARKETED towards the numetal/metalcore crowd (here they are the same crowd). I guess you can say I hate commercial sounding music; it's boring and usually unoriginal because it's marketed towards a particular group. I don't care if a group got popular BECAUSE of the sound; but if they have that sound TO BE popular, then I usually can't listen to it because it's commercial marketed pap. In essence, if the popularity is the effect, then by all means it's gravy. If greed for popularity is the cause, then it's no good.


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At 7/18/06 04:10 PM, MetalWarriorFromHell wrote:
It's not that which I care about. It's the fact that it's MARKETED towards the numetal/metalcore crowd (here they are the same crowd). I guess you can say I hate commercial sounding music; it's boring and usually unoriginal because it's marketed towards a particular group. I don't care if a group got popular BECAUSE of the sound; but if they have that sound TO BE popular, then I usually can't listen to it because it's commercial marketed pap. In essence, if the popularity is the effect, then by all means it's gravy. If greed for popularity is the cause, then it's no good.

that's my main idea. if something is good i will listen to it, hell i love strapping young lad, and that isn't exactly kvlt and necro, but if something is written to sell records then it is almost unarguably shit. if it sells because it's good, not because it is marketed at someone, then that's fine.

the other thing i hate is when a good band puts out a shit cd and it sells like crazy. i dont care about how well it sells, but it makes a bunch of emo/goth mallheads go around "AYM SO KVLT!!! I LISSND TO SATYRIKAWN!!!!" and i have to sit by and watch as people laugh at anyone that likes these bands legitimately, because we get lumped in with the idiots. i dont care if people mock me for the music i listen to, that happens all the time in suburbia, but when i am confused for those idiots it gets very old very quickly.

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so, yeah. hellhammer and merrimack kick major amounts of testicles.

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At 7/18/06 05:11 PM, tom3rulz wrote:
At 7/18/06 04:10 PM, MetalWarriorFromHell wrote:
It's not that which I care about. It's the fact that it's MARKETED towards the numetal/metalcore crowd (here they are the same crowd). I guess you can say I hate commercial sounding music; it's boring and usually unoriginal because it's marketed towards a particular group. I don't care if a group got popular BECAUSE of the sound; but if they have that sound TO BE popular, then I usually can't listen to it because it's commercial marketed pap. In essence, if the popularity is the effect, then by all means it's gravy. If greed for popularity is the cause, then it's no good.
that's my main idea. if something is good i will listen to it, hell i love strapping young lad, and that isn't exactly kvlt and necro, but if something is written to sell records then it is almost unarguably shit. if it sells because it's good, not because it is marketed at someone, then that's fine.

the other thing i hate is when a good band puts out a shit cd and it sells like crazy. i dont care about how well it sells, but it makes a bunch of emo/goth mallheads go around "AYM SO KVLT!!! I LISSND TO SATYRIKAWN!!!!" and i have to sit by and watch as people laugh at anyone that likes these bands legitimately, because we get lumped in with the idiots. i dont care if people mock me for the music i listen to, that happens all the time in suburbia, but when i am confused for those idiots it gets very old very quickly.

Man. I love you man. I would type a response, but I just chugged some rum and I feel like I'm about togget really shitfaced soon. I feel it coursing through my bdoy. Its reyally nice. Anywho, yeah. I totally agree wit you. The ereason Satyricon, Dimmu Borgir, COF, and the rest suck nwo is because the y write songs to selll, not just fer artistic merit.


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Hello. My favorties are Disturbed, Hatebreed, and Mushroomhead. Tom3Rulz got me into Opeth. I just got a shit load of Disturbed today. Not sure if these match your requirements or not. Let me know. Later guys!


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At 7/19/06 06:32 AM, Satanic_Samurai wrote: Hello. My favorties are Disturbed, Hatebreed, and Mushroomhead. Tom3Rulz got me into Opeth. I just got a shit load of Disturbed today. Not sure if these match your requirements or not. Let me know. Later guys!

Sorry, dude, not even close. For those bands, check out the Metal Hell, or the Nu-Metal crew.

You're probably welcome to post if you want to learn more about bands like 1349, Immortal, Anaal Nathrakh, Rotting Christ, Enthroned, amongst others...


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Sorry for the double post

Warrior, you are funny as hell for posting that so sloppy drunk...Though I bet you're probably hung over, shit, that made my day.

Also, I forgot to mention to the person a post above mine, you CAN post here if you want to learn, not probably...


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At 7/19/06 06:32 AM, Satanic_Samurai wrote: Hello. My favorties are Disturbed, Hatebreed, and Mushroomhead. Tom3Rulz got me into Opeth. I just got a shit load of Disturbed today. Not sure if these match your requirements or not. Let me know. Later guys!

hey sara. yeah, great as opeth is, it isn't exactly grim kvlt and necro. disturbed and hatebreed are mostly (sorry to break it to you) pop drivel. i dont know about mushroomhead since i haven't heard them, but i bet they aren't grim black metal either. the shit we listen to here is... different, bleaker, angrier, and won't be found in hot topic. scroll through the pages of posts here and listen to some of the band mentioned (if you can find them) and if you like it then come back and tell us, but if not then i don't think that this is the place for you.

metalwarriorfromhell: good to see we agree... i guess.... i see you're a benevolent drunk, eh? i just dont shut up when i'm drunk/high...

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At 7/19/06 11:35 AM, X_Imperium_X wrote: Sorry for the double post

Warrior, you are funny as hell for posting that so sloppy drunk...Though I bet you're probably hung over, shit, that made my day.

Also, I forgot to mention to the person a post above mine, you CAN post here if you want to learn, not probably...

Yeah. Though I'm the one who makes the calls, (s)he was being pretty modest... you can post, but lurk in the topic first. Listen to bands like X_Imperium_X just listed, and maybe bands like Emperor, Burzum, Nargaroth, Borknagar, Sunn 0))), Thergothon, Skepticism, etc...

Oh, and new black metal band I discovered: Lugubre. I wanna get their CD, Anti-Human Black metal. And I wanna check one of Striid's releases.


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Anti-Human Black Metal? Sounds kvlt. Any bands they're like?


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At 7/20/06 10:10 AM, X_Imperium_X wrote: Anti-Human Black Metal? Sounds kvlt. Any bands they're like?

Thorgal, Cirith Gorgir, Striid, Nazgul, Krieg, Goat Wrath, etc...

I'll leave it up to your imagination who their major influence is.


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Was anyone else as equally unimpressed with the winner of the Eurovision song contest this year? Lordi's 'Hard Rock Hallelujah'? I must say it was one of the biggest loads of tripe i've ever heard, when they dress like that, it just sends the wrong message. I was expecting something completely different.


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At 7/20/06 02:00 PM, scukmafioso wrote: stuff

what? What the hell are you talking about? Why are you posting in this club?

Oh, and to Tom and X, yeah, though I was much drunker after I posted that. I am a benevolent drunk; I don't force others to put up with my drunken bullshit.


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My fav. BM bands-
Basilisk
Bathory
Behemoth
Borknagar
Burzum
Celtic Frost
Darkthrone
Dimmu Borgir
Dissection
Dragonlord
Emperor
Immortal
Kataxu
King Diamond(he's kind of black metal)
Mayhem
Mercyful Fate
Old Man's Child
Satyricon
Venom
Xasthur

Am I I Now?


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At 7/20/06 02:33 PM, VicRattlehead18 wrote: My fav. BM bands-
Basilisk

yes :)

Bathory

yes :)

Behemoth

yes :)

Borknagar

yay! :):)

Burzum

yay! :):)

Celtic Frost

yes :)

Darkthrone

yes :)

Dimmu Borgir

Old--yes, new--no

Dissection

yes :)

Dragonlord

yes :)

Emperor

yes :)

Immortal

Lol I love them. :):)

Kataxu

yes :)

King Diamond(he's kind of black metal)

He helped father it. :)

Mayhem

Yay! :):)

Mercyful Fate

More King Diamond... :)

Old Man's Child

yes :)

Satyricon

Old-yes New-no

Venom

OOOOOOOOOOOH BLOOODLUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSST! :)

Xasthur

Telepathic for the deceased. :)


Am I I Now?

With honors, my man. Perfect list, man.


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At 7/20/06 02:33 PM, VicRattlehead18 wrote:
Bands

Fuck yeh, spotless list. Welcome in, man.

Warrior - glad you're a benevolent drunk, in case I ever encounter you that way I won't fear for unnessecary kicks to the crotch. Also, I cant tell you guys, I've never been drunk....


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At 7/20/06 07:41 PM, X_Imperium_X wrote:
At 7/20/06 02:33 PM, VicRattlehead18 wrote:
Bands
Fuck yeh, spotless list. Welcome in, man.

Warrior - glad you're a benevolent drunk, in case I ever encounter you that way I won't fear for unnessecary kicks to the crotch. Also, I cant tell you guys, I've never been drunk....

I can change that. I've got enough liquor to get even the biggest heavyweight shitfaced out of his mind.


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