Why We Should Not Listen To France…

[MeSmashie]

France gave the world:
World War I
Hitler
World War II
Israel – Middle East conflict
Vietnam War
Palestinian Liberation Army
And the Hizballah & Hamas

And yet people seem to think they are worth more then the body odor they emit…

[buildversionIV]

Err. That is the most stupid post I have ever read on here. Im not even going to bother to say what is wrong with it.

[MoralLibertarian]

We shouldn't listen to France because of their politics.

[LegendaryLukus]

At 5/1/06 11:46 AM, MeSmashie wrote: France gave the world:
World War I

Aswell as Serbia, Austria, Russia, Germany, Great Britain....etc etc

Hitler

No, Hitler was Autrian. And he conquered France.

World War II

No HItler gave the World world war II. arguably so did the people who caused world war one.

Israel – Middle East conflict

True. But ive forgotten why

Vietnam War

I'll give you that one, but it was your choice to muck it up so much

Palestinian Liberation Army

No fault of Palestine at all. I think the UK had a hand in it

And the Hizballah & Hamas

Why not. And I think they also are the cause of colds, look into that.

And yet people seem to think they are worth more then the body odor they emit…

Did i just defend France? I'm vaguely scared.

[JMHX]

At 5/1/06 11:46 AM, MeSmashie wrote:

World War II

Franklin Roosevelt created World War II by allowing the Russians to invade Poland and Sweden without intervening.

[Austrian-Mats]

Actually, the Versailles treaty caused WWII. Without it, Hitler would never have gotten enough adherers.

And btw France is a cool country.

[LegendaryLukus]

At 5/1/06 03:45 PM, Austrian_Mats wrote: Actually, the Versailles treaty caused WWII. Without it, Hitler would never have gotten enough adherers.

I'm doing my dissertation on this. To be honest, I believe that it was more to do with the depression and unemployment, keading to a rise in radical party support. but I do think the versailles treaty left some residual resentment. my opinion, not fact.

[ProudDem0307]

At 5/1/06 03:45 PM, Austrian_Mats wrote: Actually, the Versailles treaty caused WWII. Without it, Hitler would never have gotten enough adherers.

But France was the main country pushing for the harsh reparations that had befallen Germany, which in turn led people to look to Hitler to stand up to all of it. Also, whoever wrote that France gave us the Israeli conflict is untrue, it was actually Great Britain. Palestine was G.B's territory before G.B allotted it for Jewish settlement.

[AustinR]

I'm not all with france and every thing but COME ON do you even look at what your typeing

[HighlyIllogical]

At 5/1/06 11:46 AM, MeSmashie wrote: France gave the world:
World War I

That was Europe as a whole. The economic situation and a particular Serb nationalist.

Hitler

Hm? Source? I thought he was austrian.

World War II

Hitler. That was Hitler.

Israel – Middle East conflict

That was the Arabs.

Vietnam War

That was the French, yeah. But only because we wouldn't help them to win it.

Palestinian Liberation Army

How so?

And the Hizballah & Hamas

Again, that was Arabs.

[Jizzlebang]

At 5/1/06 03:31 PM, JMHX wrote:

At 5/1/06 11:46 AM, MeSmashie wrote:

World War II

Franklin Roosevelt created World War II by allowing the Russians to invade Poland and Sweden without intervening.

you mean Finland, not Sweden.

Germany went in to Sweden

[JMHX]

At 5/1/06 04:40 PM, Jizzlebang wrote:

At 5/1/06 03:31 PM, JMHX wrote:

At 5/1/06 11:46 AM, MeSmashie wrote:

World War II

Franklin Roosevelt created World War II by allowing the Russians to invade Poland and Sweden without intervening.

you mean Finland, not Sweden.

Germany went in to Sweden

I was joking, mostly.

[TehChahlesh]

At 5/1/06 01:41 PM, MoralLibertarian wrote: We shouldn't listen to France because of their politics.

You're far too logical for this topic, get out.

At 5/1/06 11:46 AM, MeSmashie wrote: France gave the world:
World War I

Germany, England, The entire Ottoman Empire, etc.

Hitler

Germany, Italy, Japan

World War II

Germany

Israel – Middle East conflict

England and the middle-east

Vietnam War

America and Vietnam

Palestinian Liberation Army

Er... Palestine?

And the Hizballah & Hamas

Middle East

And yet people seem to think they are worth more then the body odor they emit…

This is the most ignorant post on this entire website. Please, tell me you're not a Republican, because the last thing they need is an ignoratn ass hole like you to give them a bad name.

[Penal-Disturbance]

Isreal is the Allies' fault, not just France.

[MeSmashie]

Because france broke it's treaties it made it nearly inpossible for those others to meat theirs, especialy Britain.

France was the main driving force in supressing and punishing the German allience after WWI. Had Europe listened to Woodrow Wilson and rebuilt Germany and installed a stable government, Hitler would NEVER have gotten INTO power.

France was the first country to lagitimize the PLO, and give Arafat political support. They have had a LONG history of capitulation to terrorest. And the Hamas are an off shoot of the PLO. In point of fact they were up until recently the military arm of the PLO.

The French people used to be some of the hardest working people, but ever sense they lost Napolean they have gone out of their way to elect the most enept government they could.

[HighlyIllogical]

At 5/1/06 04:57 PM, Penal_Disturbance wrote: Isreal is the Allies' fault, not just France.

Fault? You say it like Israel's a BAD thing.

[Dacheater]

Why We Should Not Listen To Me Smashie …

He labels on people as a group, beliveing that every french person who ever lived thinks alike
He blames France for wars they didn't start
He blames France for people who wern't born their and had nothing to do with
He forgets Politics is supposed to be a place for inteligent debate

[HighlyIllogical]

At 5/1/06 05:25 PM, Dacheater wrote:

He forgets Politics is supposed to be a place for inteligent debate

Since when WAS politics a place for such debate?

Oh, wait...

[Dracul3S]

At 5/1/06 11:46 AM, MeSmashie wrote: France gave the world:
World War I
Hitler
World War II
Israel – Middle East conflict
Vietnam War
Palestinian Liberation Army
And the Hizballah & Hamas

Germany and Austria
WW1, Hitler
Germany:WW2
Israel: Created by the British after a lot of US pressure
Vietnam war: war against France only lasted about a quarter of a year, the big Vietnam War
was a war of USA against Vietnam
People who know nothing about history and politics should not start discussions about it as everyone can see their ignorance.

[Denta]

At 5/1/06 03:31 PM, JMHX wrote:

At 5/1/06 11:46 AM, MeSmashie wrote:

World War II

Franklin Roosevelt created World War II by allowing the Russians to invade Poland and Sweden without intervening.

Sweden was neutral, the Nazis took all of Scandanavia but Sweden.

And it was the Nazis that invaded Poland, learn some history, asshole!

[Denta]

At 5/1/06 04:40 PM, Jizzlebang wrote:

At 5/1/06 03:31 PM, JMHX wrote:

At 5/1/06 11:46 AM, MeSmashie wrote:

World War II

Franklin Roosevelt created World War II by allowing the Russians to invade Poland and Sweden without intervening.

you mean Finland, not Sweden.

Germany went in to Sweden

NO! Germany went into Denmark and Norway! And the Russians didn't invade any country at the beginning of the war!

Damnit, are you mixing Germany and Russia and Sweden with Switzerland or what???

However, LEARN SOME HISTORY BEFORY YOU'RE OPENING YOUR MOUTHS!!!!

[Monocrom]

At 5/1/06 12:32 PM, buildversionIV wrote: Err. That is the most stupid post I have ever read on here. Im not even going to bother to say what is wrong with it.

I agree............ And at over 4200 posts, I've seen some incredibly stupid threads.

[dooseyboy]

At 5/1/06 11:46 AM, MeSmashie wrote: France gave the world:
World War I

actually no they did'nt

Hitler

again WRONG

World War II

nope

Israel – Middle East conflict

fuk no they gave us nothing but fuk ups

Vietnam War

no they did not the fucking americans did that

Palestinian Liberation Army

your so dumb

And the Hizballah & Hamas

wtf

And yet people seem to think they are worth more then the body odor they emit…

again fukking WRONG

you suck dood

[Demosthenez]

We shouldnt listen to France cause they smell like ass and dont shave. Stupid Frenchies.

At 5/2/06 02:04 AM, Dark-Metallix wrote: And the Russians didn't invade any country at the beginning of the war!

Yes they did.

At 5/2/06 02:01 AM, Dark-Metallix wrote: And it was the Nazis that invaded Poland, learn some history, asshole!

The Russians and Germans hit Poland at the same time. Yeah, about that learning history thing...

[RedScorpion]

Wow, after just taking a glance at the general forum just now, I think I can appreciate quality of convos here in politics.

Although this thread is still idiotic. =\

[Palioxis]

ok, the creator of this topic, you dont know anything about the first ww, obvious, please do some PROPER research before comming in spouting out blaming entire conflics on one nation cause he was part of it.

A WAR, is NEVER caused BY 1, as in war. 1 fight ANOTHER, both sides are evenly guilty as if they both killed and destroyed, even if it would save lives. You are guilty for firering back, even when it feels right, and I agree, I would 2 fire back, but when I fired back, I fiwouldnt claim myself innocent for killing him even if he fired first. and sure some killed more then others during the world war 2, but if the people who killed the most were guilty, then it would be the russians for murdering 17 million civilions (total casualtys of the russians during ww2 was 25 million, 8 million military, 17 civilian. The germans never got that far to be able to murde such amount, Stalin did, to wash out everything that wasnt communism.

[quote]But France was the main country pushing for the harsh reparations that had befallen Germany, which in turn led people to look to Hitler to stand up to all of it[/quote]
Yes, but there were 2 other MAIN countrys pushing germany, England, and the US. All 3 were way out of line. And Many prodicted at that time that there was no other way for germany to regain strenght then trough war. But these were ignored as they didnt believe germany had the capability to create an army without them knowing, as germany was limited to have only 100 000 men under the treaty of Versailles.
[quote]Vietnam War

That was the French, yeah. But only because we wouldn't help them to win it.[/quote]
I do not agree, Vietnam was a colonie of France, there was a rebellion, not started by french, but by the civilians who got organised as an army, and the U.S. was never asked to interfear. Also, as I mentioned above, both were guilty for the conflict.
[quote][Hitler

Germany, Italy, Japan[/quote]
Italy and japan were the cause of Hitler, LOL, the people of Japan and Italy didnt even know the man existed until 1939.

[quote]The French people used to be some of the hardest working people, but ever sense they lost Napolean they have gone out of their way to elect the most enept government they could.[/quote]
WW1, Battle of Verdun, google it, and you wil see that the french stil are one of the hardest working people.

[quote]Why We Should Not Listen To Me Smashie …

He labels on people as a group, beliveing that every french person who ever lived thinks alike
He blames France for wars they didn't start
He blames France for people who wern't born their and had nothing to do with
He forgets Politics is supposed to be a place for inteligent debate[/quote]
pwned

[quote]And it was the Nazis that invaded Poland, learn some history, asshole![/quote]
Nazis, and in secret Russians, Poland was devided by Hitler and stalin for both to take over,

[quote]NO! Germany went into Denmark and Norway! And the Russians didn't invade any country at the beginning of the war!

Damnit, are you mixing Germany and Russia and Sweden with Switzerland or what???

However, LEARN SOME HISTORY BEFORY YOU'RE OPENING YOUR MOUTHS!!!![/quote]
he also mentioned that he was mostly joking about this

[LegendaryLukus]

Why don't you learn to actually quote!

Good message though. I'm with you all the way.

[Buffalow]

At 5/1/06 03:31 PM, JMHX wrote:

At 5/1/06 11:46 AM, MeSmashie wrote:

World War II

Franklin Roosevelt created World War II by allowing the Russians to invade Poland and Sweden without intervening.

Sweden was neutral and what the fuck does Poland have to do with America during WWII?

[Temudjin]

At 5/1/06 11:46 AM, MeSmashie wrote: France gave the world:
World War I
Hitler
World War II
Israel – Middle East conflict
Vietnam War
Palestinian Liberation Army
And the Hizballah & Hamas

I think that the other ones have said everything about your pathetic way of arguing...

And yet people seem to think they are worth more then the body odor they emit…

What a great argument, you're exactly the kind of guy who relies on fuckin' prejudices

That's, in part, because of people like you that America is so much unliked in my country.

[Penal-Disturbance]

Why you shouldn't listen to Conservatives:

99% of their arguments consist of logical fallacies, and the whole idealogy is based on the fallacy of Appeal to Tradition.