Who wants a HYDRO CAR!

[PsychobillyClock]

$1.2 billion is going into developing the hydrogen car. Who wants a car that runs off water? Who wishes their closest fuel source to be their kitchen sink? 15 years in the making might pay off.

I'm assuming it runs off water (the H2 in H20, or it runs off hydrogen gas. It'd be great if they could run off water.

[scavio]

If they could keep the water from freezing it wouldn't be bad. Also, it would have to run off of regular tap water, having to use distilled water would probably be a pain. Of course, tap water would probably end up skyrocketing in price so that taking anything over a 30 second shower would require a six figure job...

[TheEvilOne]

I think that it would run off hydrogen gas, and give off water as exhaust.

It's a good idea, and should be looked into. We need to take every opportunity we can get to stop giving money to terrorists.

[Alakazam]

It does not run on water, or hydrogen. It runs on electricity generated by the ionization of oxygen and hydrogen. The byproduct is water.

[rezgwu]

it's a good idea, but I don't think they are safe. I like the hybrid cars better. They use regular gasoline, but get great gas milage.

[Perseph0ne6]

HYDRO! And a car!! ... oh ... huh huh... wrong thread.

It sounds like a great idea to me. I can't imagine how much better our lives would be if our dependancy on the Middle East was decreased, or eliminated all together.

There is one downside atleast, however, if you read my profile you'll see I'm from Houston. In fact I live in a place out side of Houston called Humble which is where Texaco was founded. There's a small club in Humble called Fuel which used to be the first Texaco gas station.

The point I'm making is that alot of American jobs would be lost. Especially here in Houston. Does it need to be done anyway? I would say yes. Will it suck for a lot of people? Yes, yes it will.

[PsychobillyClock]

At 1/30/03 07:15 PM, Perseph0ne6 wrote:

Will it suck for a lot of people? Yes, yes it will.

They'll adapt. They'll save money on not buying gas!

[whitedragon-my]

Which is why we should slowly implement these cars, keep with the hybrids while slowly reducing the amount of gasoline needed, this will give us enough time to create the facilites needed for these cars so the people whose jobs rely on gasoline will have time to switch over. Say we start now, in about 15 years we could be gasoline free.

[TheKingPin]

At 1/30/03 07:15 PM, Perseph0ne6 wrote: HYDRO! And a car!! ... oh ... huh huh... wrong thread.

It sounds like a great idea to me. I can't imagine how much better our lives would be if our dependancy on the Middle East was decreased, or eliminated all together.

?????
You underestimate how much the world depends on OIL!
If it ever runs out, well back to the Dark-ages!
just try to imagine how much we depend on oil: not only Cars, trucks, airlines, shipping routes(trade)depend on oil.

for example;
the Medical industry; Doctors depend on Oil for modern medicine.(yes modern medicine is made out of oil!)
The petrochemical industry; Many of our great technological advancements we owe thanks to oil.
Think of plastics. Your keyboard, mouse, chips, Tv, Cd's, cell phone, actionfigures, PCP, condoms, flavours in milkshakes ect ect are all made out of .. yes OIL!
Modern 21st century life is unthinkable without oil.
This is why Iraq is so interresting and North Korea is not.

logically; Who ever controls the Oil, controls the world. Sounds simple doesn't it?

secondly Hydro cars run on socalled "fuel cells". Fuel cells full of H2 gas. The H2 gas is burned and the byproduct is harmless H20. To creat fuel cells with H2 gas, people need lots of energy(think of your chemestry lessons!!) and were do you think we get the energy to creat H2-gas? from OIL-based electricplants or neucliar enery ofcourse... so Are Hydro-cars really all that Enviroment friendly?

[Slizor]

Think of plastics. Your keyboard, mouse, chips, Tv, Cd's, cell phone, actionfigures, PCP, condoms, flavours in milkshakes ect ect are all made out of .. yes OIL!

Plastic can now be made by plants...yes plants! They are currently making biodegradable plastic for packaging, but probably could make fairly permanent plastic.

secondly Hydro cars run on socalled "fuel cells". Fuel cells full of H2 gas. The H2 gas is burned and the byproduct is harmless H20. To creat fuel cells with H2 gas, people need lots of energy(think of your chemestry lessons!!) and were do you think we get the energy to creat H2-gas? from OIL-based electricplants or neucliar enery ofcourse... so Are Hydro-cars really all that Enviroment friendly?

Then use solar power!

[Rebelao]

The problem of the car is the Heat resistance... Is very hard to boil water with a poor heat source. But just think on the summer days, with the sun throwing heat to the car, AND the heat that the car makes... The water will increase its heat level (it wont start boiling, I know) but, that will generate OVERHEAT on the engine, AND, it takes the same time to cold down... so that can become a problem...
Another thing, I know that I might have spelling problems... Im sorry

[PsychobillyClock]

At 2/1/03 09:51 AM, Slizor wrote: Then use solar power!

Problem is it only works half the time ;)

[Interface]

i heard on some science show that you can run your car with cofee, i dont know what exact kind of cofee but jeese. you'd end up dumping your tim hortons cofee inside your car while someone walks by and thinks "what the fuck??"

[TheKingPin]

Plastic can now be made by plants...yes plants! They are currently making biodegradable plastic for packaging, but probably could make fairly permanent plastic.

The problem with this "green oil" as they call it is;

Its moleculair structure is not as complex as that of crude oil (yes crude oil) and it simply can never be. Crude oil was made over millions of years through movement and subduction of the earths continental plates. So crude oil exists out of billions of dead carbon based lifeforms. Thus "Green oil" can only be used for a simple aplications like plasics.

Its quatity can never match that of the crude oil reserves. even if you chop down all the tree's and plants of the world you still wouldn't have enough to supply our OIL-NEED for more than a year.

On economic terms crude oil can never be replaced because;

We rely on it to make our economy run. Try and think of one industry that does not use oil in some way?
Further more; Crude oil is the life line of the middel-east. About 85% of it income comes from oil-export.
Oil is a blessing and yet a curse to the middel-east; it makes them rich but very dependant.

Last of all its just simply cheaper to extract crude oil than make "green-oil" through high presure in factories.

Then use solar power!

easier sad than done.. But if solar energy and/or wind energy would be used. Hydro-cars would really be enviromental friendly.

[Slizor]

The problem with this "green oil" as they call it is;

I'm not talking about green oil, I'm talking about plastic actually being grown...on the plant.

On a sidenote you can actually use cooking oil in a diseal engine, but beware, you still have to pay tax on it.(This was done in wales, there are numerous news stories on it at The Guardian(guardianunlimited.co.uk) but I can't be fucked to pull up a story)

Then use solar power!

easier sad than done.. But if solar energy and/or wind energy would be used. Hydro-cars would really be enviromental friendly.

Solar engery can at least be used to aid the main source of energy.