Britan/World's Crisis

[SheffieldWednesday]

everyone is talking about global warming and we need to find some new energy source.

but what energy sources could be viable though.

Nuclear power clean and very reliable how ever though it costs a hell of a lot of money to build and maintain and have sercurity on there. if there was to be another disaster the concequesnces could be fatal.

Wind Power there is no problem with theese 100% natural aswell but you will need masses of them in britan to meet the energy needs. though

Solar power yet again 100% natural but solar pannels and stuff for this to work could cost a fortune though.

you could just get rid of petrol in 2 ways

1. nuclear power pumps. around the city. where you can gas up your car. they have electric ones in france. but it takes ages for them to charge up. (its somewhere in europe anyways)
2. convert you car to take vegetable oil. it costs a lot but well worth it though. but then the price of vegetable oil will rocket though.

Discuss.

[PhysicsMafia]

gas from nuclear power pumps?

nuclear energy is the way to go, it has low running costs after the initial outlay. it depends on the country tho and the natural resources, hydro is good in mountainous areas with large waterfalls or where dams can be built, soalr is good in very sunny places (not britain.lol) geothermal in iceland.

once cold fusion is discovered tho that shld be an end to most energy problems but that could be a while off..(all those claims that people have discovered it are utterly false)

[LegendaryLukus]

Until something is done about the amount of pollution caused by the US, China, India etc, the rest of us are just pissing into the wind.

That won't stop me from recycling. I like the sounds of breaking glass

[sdhonda]

You guys should learn more about alternative energy.

Cars can be run on compressed air, they will be available in a year or two.

Underwater turbines are very promising. Just one feild of them can power vancouver island. Imagine tons of them across the worlds coasts.

Solar towers are also looking good. Theres also new solar collecters that basicly several meter wide dishs that focus light onto a thingy, where it boils water and runs a turbine.

And then of course theres good old running things more effeicently. They just invented a way to make flourisent lights use 60% less power and run twice as long. They also invented a way to place several dishs on top of a building, collect sun light and send it through fiber optics and light up the building, using less power than the computer your reading this from.

[MortifiedPenguins]

At 4/26/06 06:22 PM, LegendaryLukus wrote: Until something is done about the amount of pollution caused by the US, China, India etc, the rest of us are just pissing into the wind.

We are doing something

Asia-Pacific Partnership on Clean Development and Climate

And people seem to forget that American pollution is getting extremely better.

Air Pollution has dramatically decreased, forests have increased, water sources have been cleaned up and updated technology is helping to make carbon emmisions lower.

[LegendaryLukus]

What's the recycling system like in America?

[Me-Patch]

At 4/26/06 08:01 PM, LegendaryLukus wrote: What's the recycling system like in America?

Mandatory.

[HighlyIllogical]

The biggest problems (pollution wise) are in China-there's no standards, and even if there are/were to be, they wouldn't be followed. 2 billion people + industrializing society + manufacturing = lots of pollution

[callofdutyfreak]

well, i don't know what they are doing in Europe, but here in America there is a little thing in the works called fusion. WAYYYYY mor energy produced than fission, but it's still in experimental stages. As for what to do with cars, i don't know.

[HighlyIllogical]

It's not even close to production, so I've heard.

[Demosthenez]

At 4/26/06 07:47 PM, sdhonda wrote: Underwater turbines are very promising. Just one feild of them can power vancouver island. Imagine tons of them across the worlds coasts.

I imagine... fucked up currents and lots of dead animals.

[dooseyboy]

one word METHANE oh yeah plenty of it
elephant stuff is good

did you know: 1 bit of elephant of dung gives off enough methane to power a gas stove for 10 hours

oh yeah

[sdhonda]

At 4/27/06 02:36 AM, FAB0L0US wrote:

At 4/26/06 07:47 PM, sdhonda wrote: Underwater turbines are very promising. Just one feild of them can power vancouver island. Imagine tons of them across the worlds coasts.

I imagine... fucked up currents and lots of dead animals.

No, they move slow enough and are dull enough that fish can just swim around and through them without getting hurt. And currents wont be affected.

[MarkyX]

At 4/26/06 06:22 PM, LegendaryLukus wrote: Until something is done about the amount of pollution caused by the US, China, India etc, the rest of us are just pissing into the wind.

That won't stop me from recycling. I like the sounds of breaking glass

Sorry but humans have nothing to do with 'global warming'

A volcano eruption does a lot more damage to the ozone then US and China.

[LegendaryLukus]

At 4/27/06 10:38 AM, MarkyX wrote: Sorry but humans have nothing to do with 'global warming'

A volcano eruption does a lot more damage to the ozone then US and China.

How about some evidence? You cannot be claiming that humans have NO effect whatsoever on global warming. How do you react to the fact that ever since the industrial revolution, the situation has been getting worse?

[sdhonda]

For the last several thousand yearsm the climate has been getting warmer.

The current levels of climate change are nothing if you look back oversay the last 500000 years. Ice drill samples taken from antarctica show that the earths climate has shifted quite radicly. Sor example, the change that has taken place over the last 200 years only measures a few millimeters on a graph. But if look back at the scale by a few 100000 years, theres dips and slopes measuring nearly a foot long.

Not that humans are helping, of course.

[ImmoralLibertarian]

At 4/26/06 06:05 PM, PhysicsMafia wrote: once cold fusion is discovered tho that shld be an end to most energy problems but that could be a while off..(all those claims that people have discovered it are utterly false)

Maybe not. Have you read anything about ‘Bubble Fusion’? The evidence is looking good.

At 4/27/06 10:38 AM, MarkyX wrote: A volcano eruption does a lot more damage to the ozone then US and China.

What else can I say but sigh ?

[Engelsman]

build a huge dam across the severn estuary

link

[SheffieldWednesday]

At 4/27/06 10:38 AM, MarkyX wrote:

Sorry but humans have nothing to do with 'global warming'

Firstly HUMANS have a LOT to do with global warming. some of it is natural but 99% of the time it is us. so i think your talking crap.

[MortifiedPenguins]

At 4/27/06 06:09 PM, SheffieldWednesday wrote:

At 4/27/06 10:38 AM, MarkyX wrote:

Firstly HUMANS have a LOT to do with global warming. some of it is natural but 99% of the time it is us. so i think your talking crap.

How.

We know that Global warming is a fact.

But the cause is still a myster to us.

Some people think that it's natural, other put 100% on humans.

You people must remember that were still in a ice age and that there are warming peaks and colder peaks in geological history.

A thousand years ago, there was grapes growing in southern England. Please tell me we can start up another vineyard in England.

In 1777, George Washington crossed a ice choked Deleware River. When was the last time that the Deleware River had Ice in it.

Basically, we humans can't really compare weather, when recording weather has only been going on for two hundred maybe three hundred years. In geological terms, thats nothing.

[Engelsman]

theres no evidence to say that humans are the main cause of global warming, but on the other hand there's no evidence to say humans aren't the main cause either. best guess is that all this CO2 we're spittin out over the world is havin some sort of effect but nobody knows if its the reason entirely for rising temperatures.

[shorty18011991]

true but i do suppose that you could use Geothermic or tidal and there is also Hydoelectric im studing this at the moment at my school in dronfield second year of GCSE cmon !!!!

[Demosthenez]

At 4/27/06 06:33 PM, YankeeFli wrote: How.

Your still playing with a Pandoras Box taking risks assuming we arent causing the problems. I think it is usually a good strategy to assume the worst and plan for it.

A thousand years ago, there was grapes growing in southern England. Please tell me we can start up another vineyard in England.

There are still vineyards in Englnad, its just that no one takes English wine growers seriously.

In 1777, George Washington crossed a ice choked Deleware River. When was the last time that the Deleware River had Ice in it.

That was one of the most brutal winters on record. When I say brutal, I mean terrbile, out of the ordinary, and disturbingly cold.

[Leonardo-Da-Finchy]

At 4/26/06 08:40 PM, callofdutyfreak wrote: well, i don't know what they are doing in Europe, but here in America there is a little thing in the works called fusion. WAYYYYY mor energy produced than fission, but it's still in experimental stages. As for what to do with cars, i don't know.

What do you mean, "here in America". You make it sound like you've just discoverd it. CERN is the biggest particle physics research facility in the world, and it's underground beneath France and Switzerland. They have managed to create a fusion reactor that creates one heck of a lot of energy, it's just too big for general use. They're working on downsizing it now. There may be some American scientists working there, but THAT is "what they are doing in Europe".

[Engelsman]

At 4/28/06 11:41 AM, FAB0L0US wrote:

At 4/27/06 06:33 PM, YankeeFli wrote: How.

Your still playing with a Pandoras Box taking risks assuming we arent causing the problems. I think it is usually a good strategy to assume the worst and plan for it.

i agree, its all great sayin that the weather atm isn't caused by CO2, but sooner or later it definitely will be... and by then it might be too late to do anything

[Demosthenez]

At 4/28/06 12:22 PM, Leonardo_Da_Finchy wrote: They have managed to create a fusion reactor that creates one heck of a lot of energy, it's just too big for general use. They're working on downsizing it now. There may be some American scientists working there, but THAT is "what they are doing in Europe".

CERN has nothing to do with fusion or creating energy. Its a particle accelerator.

This in France, however, has to do with fusion.

[torvus1]

One of the biggest causes of global warming is the fact that we are cutting down so many trees, trees are the 2nd biggest consumers of Carbon Dioxide in the world with algae being first and cutting millions of them down is one of the main causes of Global warming.

[Leonardo-Da-Finchy]

At 4/28/06 02:55 PM, FAB0L0US wrote:

At 4/28/06 12:22 PM, Leonardo_Da_Finchy wrote: They have managed to create a fusion reactor that creates one heck of a lot of energy, it's just too big for general use. They're working on downsizing it now. There may be some American scientists working there, but THAT is "what they are doing in Europe".

CERN has nothing to do with fusion or creating energy. Its a particle accelerator.

This in France, however, has to do with fusion.

Sorry, I thought CERN was directly involved. My post was mainly in response to the other guy's "here in america we have a little thing called fusion," remark. Hopefully he'll have a read of that link too, that'll show him.
Sorry for making a wrong claim, but CERN's contribution to the science behind it at least, cannot be denied.

[DingoTheDog]

The Go Green attitude in Britain irritates me a touch at times.

"We need more green power sources such as Wind and Solar"

followed by a petition because

"We dont want these windmills, they are a complete eyesore"

[LegendaryLukus]

At 5/3/06 01:40 PM, DingoTheDog wrote: The Go Green attitude in Britain irritates me a touch at times.

"We need more green power sources such as Wind and Solar"

followed by a petition because

"We dont want these windmills, they are a complete eyesore"

I believe I can explain this. You see, not everyone thinks the same way. Some people want to go green, and some people like their natural surroundings.