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At 4/18/06 07:08 AM, YAMCLOCK wrote:

There are quite a few full length TV shows that use it.

What?
Examples please.

Home Movies....Fosters Home....some more I think...

At 4/18/06 12:06 PM, Meebs wrote:

At 4/18/06 07:08 AM, YAMCLOCK wrote:

There are quite a few full length TV shows that use it.

What?
Examples please.

Home Movies....Fosters Home....some more I think...

Is that Fosters home for imaniery freinds? I LOVE THAT SHOW!

At 4/17/06 10:20 PM, seel wrote: Its expensive cuz you can do everything in it.
also cuz its brand (macromdeia duh..)
There is nothing better than flash if you are going to do the main things you do in flash (well for programing and makeing games there are better programs..)
this free flash you heard about is a 30 day trial period, or a torrent or some kinda pirate thingy..

Adobe

At 4/18/06 12:24 PM, YAMCLOCK wrote: I LOVE THAT SHOW!

Hah. I love the theme song. Like a lot.

It's 800 dollars, 100 dollars for each version it's gone thru :) and one that comes close to the flash thing is SWiSH MAX but it's soooo unorganized and pretty much made for fbf because it's so unorganized... so yeah, you shouldn't pay attention to the library portion...

At 4/18/06 12:24 PM, -yam- wrote:

Is that Fosters home for imaniery freinds? I LOVE THAT SHOW!

Noob :)
I have been on ng for far longer than you.

At 4/17/06 10:17 PM, Halofragger wrote: Why is flash so expensive!?!?!?! Just tell me this...
1 Why is it so expensive

Cause it does your mom....and it pwnz at evertything.

2 Is there a better program?

If you don't want to make a game, or movie, or animation, or something similar.

3 What is this free flash i keep hearing about!?

Pirated version, or the trial.

4 What do you use?

Flash....

So the price of Flash is going up every day now? Wasn't there a topic on it being $700 yesterday?

At 5/30/06 02:05 PM, teenagegluesniffer wrote: So the price of Flash is going up every day now? Wasn't there a topic on it being $700 yesterday?

It goes up every time some cunt (i.e. you, you cunt) mentions piracy.

At 4/17/06 10:17 PM, Halofragger wrote: Why is flash so expensive!?!?!?! Just tell me this...
1 Why is it so expensive

it's expensive to make and sell (they also pay for the name)

2 Is there a better program?

probably, but it's very difficult to get flahs 9 beta (i think you have to work with macromedia)

3 What is this free flash i keep hearing about!?

it's illegal, believe me

4 What do you use?

flash 8, (ebay, i'm not paying $800! that's legal right?)

Sorry that these are all look like noob questions since they are...

i've seen worse

At 5/30/06 02:30 PM, elmagique wrote:

At 4/17/06 10:17 PM, Halofragger wrote: Why is flash so expensive!?!?!?! Just tell me this...
1 Why is it so expensive

it's expensive to make and sell (they also pay for the name)

It's not expensive to make and sell, the programmers just want their loan =S

2 Is there a better program?

probably, but it's very difficult to get flahs 9 beta (i think you have to work with macromedia)

What a crap, there is no better program right now.

3 What is this free flash i keep hearing about!?

it's illegal, believe me

It's not, there are quite a few cheap/free Flash programs.

4 What do you use?

flash 8, (ebay, i'm not paying $800! that's legal right?)

Sorry that these are all look like noob questions since they are...

i've seen worse

Like your answers to them =S

At 5/30/06 02:27 PM, Kirk_Cocaine wrote:

At 5/30/06 02:05 PM, teenagegluesniffer wrote: So the price of Flash is going up every day now? Wasn't there a topic on it being $700 yesterday?

It goes up every time some cunt (i.e. you, you cunt) mentions piracy.

I wasn't supporting piracy, I was saying that, that is probably one of the things that they had heard about.
Also, i'm sure you don't complain about all the ebay buyers of Flash. Those ones are supporting Adobe just as much as the ones who just download an illegal copy. To start with, a lot of those were probably, originaly acquired illegaly; then they were thrown on ebay cheap with something like 'I got Flash and couldn't use it...so come here and buy one of my 50 copies.' Also, they are directly not supporting Adobe in another way for buying it from there, even if the seller got it legally; the person buying isn't paying $700 to adobe AND they are giving some one else $100 for the program. So if you look at it ther person who originally had it payed $100 less for Adobe, and the person buying it payed Adobe NOTHING, but instead bought it from some one else.
So complain about the ebay suggestions too if you're gonna complain about stealing from Adobe.

At 5/30/06 02:34 PM, Altera wrote:

At 5/30/06 02:30 PM, elmagique wrote:

At 4/17/06 10:17 PM, Halofragger wrote: Why is flash so expensive!?!?!?! Just tell me this...
1 Why is it so expensive

it's expensive to make and sell (they also pay for the name)

It's not expensive to make and sell, the programmers just want their loan =S

helloo, loans are part of t he production costs

2 Is there a better program?

probably, but it's very difficult to get flahs 9 beta (i think you have to work with macromedia)

What a crap, there is no better program right now.

there is, but is not being sold yet, they are already making and testing flash 9

3 What is this free flash i keep hearing about!?

it's illegal, believe me

It's not, there are quite a few cheap/free Flash programs.

i've never seen a free one, except for f4l (flash 4 linux), but there are cheap ones, like swish (max)

4 What do you use?

flash 8, (ebay, i'm not paying $800! that's legal right?)

Sorry that these are all look like noob questions since they are...

i've seen worse

Like your answers to them =S

he was talking about QUESTIONS not AWNSERS

Hey you Americans in Australia the newest flash costs something like $1000.00! be thankful it is only $800.00 for you guys! I am going to look for a cheaper version now!

At 3/9/08 09:33 PM, AthenaDawe wrote: Hey you Americans in Australia the newest flash costs something like $1000.00! be thankful it is only $800.00 for you guys! I am going to look for a cheaper version now!

hmm...your first post is bumping a thread from 06...not a good start...

At 4/18/06 08:42 AM, Luis wrote: FYI, those of you on an educational version ($100 dollar version) who are making money off it are going to get yourselves into trouble.. the edu version is not meant to be used to be sponsored by everyone and or run your business.

Luis, you seem pretty educated, I'm asking you: know of any cases brought against a user of the educational version of flash by adobe for making money off of a swf? or do you even know HOW they would find this information?

this free flash you heard about is a 30 day trial period, or a torrent or some kinda pirate thingy..

you're gonna get banned for talking about piracy. Last time I did that, I got banned for 14 days. yea I know the rules are strict, you can't really even mention it.

Holy Thread Necromance, Batman!

:1 Why is it so expensive
First, it's a very proffesional brand, Macromedia is famous for it's very high quality software.
Secondly, options. Just look at the export settings alone... D:
Of course, Flash is an investment (?) for the future. Spend around $250 now, and get $1000/week later!
:2 Is there a better program?
For what? To animate? NO
:3 What is this free flash i keep hearing about!?
It's the thing that comes out of your ass when you're shitting.
:4 What do you use?
Flash CS3, cheers! :D

At 3/9/08 10:36 PM, HandsomeJake wrote:

At 4/18/06 08:42 AM, Luis wrote: FYI, those of you on an educational version ($100 dollar version) who are making money off it are going to get yourselves into trouble.. the edu version is not meant to be used to be sponsored by everyone and or run your business.

Luis, you seem pretty educated, I'm asking you: know of any cases brought against a user of the educational version of flash by adobe for making money off of a swf? or do you even know HOW they would find this information?

Roflmao, a two year old topic bumped...

I always questioned this, but I still follow the rules, cuz I got Professional xD

On a side note, why is it that flash isn't talked about more in life? just in general? I know that sounds stupid, and this is Newgrounds, a site nearly based around the amazing program. But in my life, I can never seem to find enough people that reconize flash completly to satify myself, thoughts? anyone?

There are programs that will let you convert any movie type to any other movie type, so you could make anything in Flash you want.

I convert .movs to flvs and wmv

Flash CS3 is $700.00 for americans and $1200.00 for us so don't complain.

I remember the days when i went to a flash eventy thing and some of there leaflets on piracy said "don't get caught" or something along those lines.

For the most part with these kind of programs they are no aimed at making money off 'average' people so to speak. They make there money form selling a licence to business or people who are making money from the program... frankly you can safely bet that so long as your not making money by using a pirate copy they are not really going to go out of there way to find out about you or even deal with you if they did.

As it is, people using the trail or even pirate stuff means that places like newgrounds can exist and flash can be as wildly used as it is... what they bank on for the most part is that the more armatures using it for fun will have to end up buying it if they want to move on to making money from the software... given the large numbers of people i know who have gone on to buy the program as they started to make money its surprisingly effective. At uni at the moment there is no point any of us buying flash that use it... its far to much money and unless we strike out on our own we will likely end up working for a company that has a licence. This is why uni has a licence to use flash on all there stuff rather than expecting us to buy it at lest thats how i think it works thelast time i talked to any onea bout it

Point is that i very much doubt they are going to care if i was using a pirate copy or not at the moment beacuse i'm not using it to make any money... thinking about it i should see if the uni licence is one that would let me make money of anything i make there.... but if i leave uni start up my own company with a few freinds and we where pumping out flash and making money with out buying the program they would come down like a tone of bricks.

Its gotten a lot more strict now that adobe is involved but ya so long as your not making money from it there not going to really care if you buy it or not beacuse they simply do not base anything on selling to single armature users... of course they'd like you to, money is money but they honestly don't expect it.

Note i'm not supporting piracy as such just that for armature non profit use if you do pirate it your unlikely to ever get caught and your not really taking away any sales from them that they ever expect to count on as part of there business plan...

well as far as i know anyway... this is all based off the impression that we got from the event we went to but to me it makes perfect sense... but it could all be bullshit

^^^^ Lord knows why someone bumped this two year old topic. Anyway I'm sure they CARE.. Adobe has people on its payroll that do nothing else but go look for people ripping them off. I agree with you that once Adobe took over for Macromedia its gotten alot tougher to get illegal versions and more so its alot more risky.

My honest suggestion is if you are still in school/college/whatever... have your parents invest in an educational version. Sacrifice a birthday present and pass on the ps3 you will stop playing after a matter of months, or the wii that you will abandon once you unlock all the stuff in Brawl. If you really are into Flash.. get the edu version.. really bust your ass to master it and get your stripes. The beauty of flash is that once you get to a level where you can produce quality work (be it artwise or programming wise) there is demand out there for it.

Once you are older and no longer in school.. that door closes for you.. and your parents are likely not going to be interested in buying it for you :P

Its not worth risking treading on a pirate version.. just as a case and point... suppose your movie becomes the next internet sensation.. you'll be beaming a beacon the size of Jupiter on the internet... it wouldnt be out of the question that you would attract a nosy Adobe audit in the process. Its just not even worth it.. 200 is affordable.. most parents are willing to invest that for their kid far more easily than a 700 dollar ps3 or whatever. atleast this will help you with your future or open up new doors.

At 4/17/06 10:22 PM, LonLonRanch wrote: You dont have to spend 800 dollars on a Flash pal, I spent 100 on Flash MX 2004 and that was the most recent at the time. For good deals I recomend hitting ebay. But the reason it costs lots of money is because its a very powerful and useful tool. You can make movies, games, websites, and more all in the same program - it even has its own coding language for crying out loud. No, you will not find a better tool than flash when looking to make animations, games and such on the web. Flash is well worth the money, and I dont know where you found flash for $800 but you can get it for alot cheaper :)

Did you not just spend $100 on getting the upgrade from flash 6 or 7? The retail price is like $800 by the way from adobe or macromedia.com