05/10/01: Woman President Checklist

[Freakapotimus]

From the June 2001 issue of Mademoiselle-

(from page 95)

Charisma (Think Julia Roberts)

... Women have an advantage in this area, says Wilson: "Government is shifting toward a warm, personal style of leading - look at Bill Clinton, and now President Bush." As for Hillary, her rocky Senate campaign showed she has a terrific ability to attract attention, both positive (her gracious acceptance speech) and negative (the scandal surrounding her appropriation of White House furniture) ...

(from page 94)

The Look of Leadership

Experts say people in focus groups talk about how the woman looks, while concentrating on what her male opponent thinks. So when a woman runs for office, her appearance is an issue. How to avoid losing the White House over a haircut? We asked nine image consultants and political strategists what attributes would optimize a woman's chance of becoming America's first female president.

1. "Professional" hair: Short, off-the-face and brunette. Long hair is "unprofessional," curly is "ineffectual" and blonde is "ditzy."

2. Grey eyeshadow: Not frosted. World leaders don't disco.

3. Crow's feet: A few laugh lines suggest an easygoing attitutde and wisdom. Too many equal a lack of vitality.

4. "Serious" lips: No vivid reds (too sexy). Shades should be nutral and a little dark (conveys authority).

5. Short nails: Maincured to express femininity, short for shaking hands.

6. A pair of earrings and a watch: Jewerly must be classic and not flashy. The ideal: pearl earrings and a thin gold watch.

7. Purse-free: A bag gets in the way and makes her look less effective than a man.

8. Size 12: Any skinner? Signals frailty. Any heavier? Might be seen as a lack of control. As for height, tall is good, but over 5 foot 10 might be considered freakish.

9. A skirt suit: Pantsuits try too hard to say "I'm one of the boys." Stick to conservative colors: blue signals trustworthiness.

10. DKNY pumps: High quality, not status conscious. Other "presidential" brands: Liz Claibourne and Cole Haan.

[shorbe]

I actually think if Hilary ran next time against Dubya (provided the Democrat vanguard let her), she'd win by a landslide. Everyone knows she'd get 90% of the female vote, and women would come out of the woodwork to vote. The guys would be split, and it would be a no-contest.

That's what amazes me about women though, or any "minority" (even though there are more men than women). Why would you vote for someone based solely on a physical characteristic?

As for the whole guide to women running for president, how retarded is that? If guys wrote an article like that, there'd be hell to pay. Why do the women who run those magazines persist in self-stereotyping?

Do they think they actually gain some journalistic or literary credibility? I don't think they realise that every guy (and some women) who have the misfortune to cross their paths first cringe in embarrassment, and then think "stupid bimbo bitch!"

Okay, and here's the punchline (waiting for the anger to come my way)- if this is the product of thirty years of "liberation," then I'd say "get back in the kitchen...at least you were good at that!"

Of course, it's not the pinnacle of women's liberation, but God, do women who write that drivel actually expect men to respect them?!

Here's my tip- ban any editor of a women's magazine writing such crap from ever speaking, writing a word, or in any other way communicating with anyone ever again. It could cause widespread lobotomies and brain malfunction on a grand scale (maybe it already has!).

Take away the voting rights of anyone who subscribes to such magazines. Clearly, they're morons, and incapable of putting one foot in front of the other, let alone voting sensibly.

shorbe

[Freakapotimus]

At 5/10/01 11:25 AM, shorbe wrote: Take away the voting rights of anyone who subscribes to such magazines. Clearly, they're morons, and incapable of putting one foot in front of the other, let alone voting sensibly.

I subscribe to that magazine, because I like the makeup and fashion tips. Would you take away my voting right?

Most of the articles are pieces of crap, one telling me how to live my life for myself and not need a man. Two pages later telling me how to snag thatperfect guy and make him want to marry me. Please.

Another article in the June 2001 tells me how to avoid being raped. #1- that's too late, and those tips would not have helped me. #2- I've seen a condensed version in many forwarded emails. There is a whole page on it at the Urban Legends Reference site: http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/rape.htm

[Perdix]

The male's appearance is also important. In the Kennedy Nixon debates in 1960, those who heard the radio version chose Nixon as the winner, and those who watched it (thus seeing the appearance of the candidates) chose Kennedy as the winner.

All of those points lead to one thing, they want women candidates to look professional, and that is also expected of male candidates, although it is not talked about as much.

[kurten]

I think the scariest thing is, I would consider voting for Hilary if she was the only opponent to Bush, even though I hate her, and don't want a woman President. Actually, I have nothing against women, it's just that women involved in politics are all, oh how do I put this delicately, dykes.

[shorbe]

Freak: Ack! You're scaring me!!!

I share your sentiments about the articles though. They're so banal and inane it really is frightening.

kurten: You soudn like my dad *L* Every woman in power is automatically a dyke according to him.

shorbe

[KaneOfNod]

At 5/10/01 11:25 AM, shorbe wrote: I actually think if Hilary ran next time against Dubya (provided the Democrat vanguard let her), she'd win by a landslide. Everyone knows she'd get 90% of the female vote, and women would come out of the woodwork to vote. The guys would be split, and it would be a no-contest.

Dammit, you beat me to saying that.

[KaneOfNod]

At 5/10/01 09:33 AM, Freakapotimus wrote: From the June 2001 issue of Mademoiselle-

(from page 95)

Charisma (Think Julia Roberts)

Damn word-mingling bitch, she actually used the dictionary to attack the Republican party. Her stupid fans will all become liberal.

... Women have an advantage in this area, says Wilson: "Government is shifting toward a warm, personal style of leading - look at Bill Clinton, and now President Bush." As for Hillary, her rocky Senate campaign showed she has a terrific ability to attract attention, both positive (her gracious acceptance speech) and negative (the scandal surrounding her appropriation of White House furniture) ...

Ahh, Bill Clinton beats President Bush as far as getting personal ;D
Hillary is the most crap-filled person ever. Lazio 2000!

(from page 94)

The Look of Leadership

Experts say people in focus groups talk about how the woman looks, while concentrating on what her male opponent thinks. So when a woman runs for office, her appearance is an issue. How to avoid losing the White House over a haircut? We asked nine image consultants and political strategists what attributes would optimize a woman's chance of becoming America's first female president.

My God. Americans are really appearance freaks.

1. "Professional" hair: Short, off-the-face and brunette. Long hair is "unprofessional," curly is "ineffectual" and blonde is "ditzy."

Note that the aformentioned Hillary Clinton is blonde.

2. Grey eyeshadow: Not frosted. World leaders don't disco.

3. Crow's feet: A few laugh lines suggest an easygoing attitutde and wisdom. Too many equal a lack of vitality.

haha

4. "Serious" lips: No vivid reds (too sexy). Shades should be nutral and a little dark (conveys authority).

If anyone sees authority or lack thereof through lipstick, I would like to meet him/her.

5. Short nails: Maincured to express femininity, short for shaking hands.

6. A pair of earrings and a watch: Jewerly must be classic and not flashy. The ideal: pearl earrings and a thin gold watch.

7. Purse-free: A bag gets in the way and makes her look less effective than a man.

8. Size 12: Any skinner? Signals frailty. Any heavier? Might be seen as a lack of control. As for height, tall is good, but over 5 foot 10 might be considered freakish.

9. A skirt suit: Pantsuits try too hard to say "I'm one of the boys." Stick to conservative colors: blue signals trustworthiness.

Gasp, the C word! I'm surprised it's in a Feminazi article in a positive light. Especially when the conservative Republican comes between "Reptile" and "Repugnant." (see Julia Roberts) Actually, they are only on the same page; not really in between. Therefore, Democrat comes between Asshole and Liar.

10. DKNY pumps: High quality, not status conscious. Other "presidential" brands: Liz Claibourne and Cole Haan.

Speaking of campaign financing...maybe we can have HILLARY CLINTON POLITICAL ADS/CLOTHING ADS! (theoretically, of course).

[Mos]

At 5/13/01 01:51 AM, KaneOfNod wrote:

At 5/10/01 09:33 AM, Freakapotimus wrote: From the June 2001 issue of Mademoiselle-

(from page 95)

Charisma (Think Julia Roberts)

Damn word-mingling bitch, she actually used the dictionary to attack the Republican party. Her stupid fans will all become liberal.

The irony is that Democrat is just above "Demon."

[KaneOfNod]

At 5/13/01 02:04 AM, Mos wrote:

At 5/13/01 01:51 AM, KaneOfNod wrote:

At 5/10/01 09:33 AM, Freakapotimus wrote: From the June 2001 issue of Mademoiselle-

(from page 95)

Charisma (Think Julia Roberts)

Damn word-mingling bitch, she actually used the dictionary to attack the Republican party. Her stupid fans will all become liberal.

The irony is that Democrat is just above "Demon."

HAHAHA!

[Freakapotimus]

At 5/12/01 11:42 PM, shorbe wrote: Freak: Ack! You're scaring me!!!

Is it because I like makeup and clothes? Or is it because I'm not the stereotypical girl who likes makeup and clothes? ;)

[TFX]

The reason why Hillary Clinton _would not win_ in a Presidential election is that Bill and she are locked in the same frame. When they think of Hillary, they think of Bill. And Bill was a pretty disgraceful President.

If Chelsea ran, she might have a chance, but as she explained her platform (which she would have to do a lot of) she'd have to be really different or real Al Gore-y (as in, appearing totally different at different events) to pull off any sort of a chance at victory.

Besides, Hillary sucks.

[shorbe]

Freak: You scare me because you subscribe to one of those magazines.

Incidentally, I don't like makeup on women. I prefer the natural look. I even prefer the plain to the overdone. The same goes for silicone or anything else.

shorbe

[Freakapotimus]

At 5/22/01 10:32 AM, shorbe wrote: Incidentally, I don't like makeup on women. I prefer the natural look. I even prefer the plain to the overdone. The same goes for silicone or anything else.

I've been hearing that a lot lately... I'm rethinking my thoughts on make-up. Do I really want to look good all the time and attract a guy who's not going to like me in make-up? It's my mother, she bugs me all the time to put on lipstick and "look pretty".