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semaGdniM
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Suicide 2003-01-26 18:45:04 Reply

Do you think that kids are forced and worked to hard or put into many tough situations and commiting suicide as a result? And if so, what is your view on suicide and how could it be stopped?

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Response to Suicide 2003-01-26 19:17:27 Reply

"Do you think that kids are forced and worked to hard or put into many tough situations and commiting suicide as a result?"
I guess it depends on each person. But for sure there are some trouble spots like japan.

"What is your view on suicide and how could it be stopped?"
I don't think you should stop it. First of all HOW are you going to STOP it? You can't control everyone. Second suicide does fix the kid's problem(s).

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Response to Suicide 2003-01-26 19:23:15 Reply

shouldn't stop it? A kid has a bad month and wants to kill himself so he does. But what if he was saved? Maybe this kid would be a doctor or an inventer. Everyones life has a meaning. You can't say death is an answer.

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Response to Suicide 2003-01-26 19:30:29 Reply

At 1/26/03 07:23 PM, semaGdniM wrote: You can't say death is an answer.

It may not be YOUR anwser, but it's a answer.
Only people that want to be saved can...........

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Response to Suicide 2003-01-26 19:54:18 Reply

Sometimes attempted suicide IS a cry to help, the only way that someone feels is available to say "save me, I'm desperate." I don't believe suicide is a way to end life's problems, like debt or lonliness or depression. There's always a way to get help, even if everything looks to be at its worst.


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Response to Suicide 2003-01-26 20:47:26 Reply

Suicide is probably not THE answer, but it is one solution. There are ways out of almost any problem but not everyone is willing to do what it takes to get out of them. So suicide is just giving up and admitting to yourself you're too weak to do it.

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Response to Suicide 2003-01-27 03:58:58 Reply

Suicide = Darwinism at its finest.

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Response to Suicide 2003-01-27 16:48:20 Reply

Perhaps this would educate you kids...

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=79797

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Response to Suicide 2003-01-27 16:50:46 Reply

Do you think that kids are forced and worked to hard or put into many tough situations and commiting suicide as a result? And if so, what is your view on suicide and how could it be stopped?

They should praise Jesus, and look to him for answers.

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Response to Suicide 2003-01-27 17:09:41 Reply

They should praise Jesus, and look to him for answers.

Yeah! Brillant answers which combine vagueness with lies! Or none at all(depending on your view of Jesus's answers.)

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Response to Suicide 2003-01-27 17:16:03 Reply

its just assholes in this world that create kids to commit suicide

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Response to Suicide 2003-01-27 18:14:09 Reply

At 1/26/03 07:54 PM, Freakapotimus wrote: Sometimes attempted suicide IS a cry to help, the only way that someone feels is available to say "save me, I'm desperate."

um...no. attempted suicide is never a cry for help. every suicide case has an attempt involved. if you attempt suicide you're not calling for help, you're trying to cut yourself off from it. if you attempt it, you mean to go through with it. how can someone be crying "help" when they themselves are not expecting to see the next day?

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Response to Suicide 2003-01-27 18:40:34 Reply

I didn't say it was ALWAYS a cry for help, but sometimes it can be. If you've tried and tried to explain to people how depressed, how low you are, and still nothing works or no one helps, you may think that suicide is the only way to get attention. This is different for different people though, so I'm not saying all suicidal people are calling for attention.


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Response to Suicide 2003-01-27 23:35:15 Reply

i don't know about anyone else but i have tried to commit sucide and that didn't work i'm still here i wish it did work but all i got from my attempt was 24 hour sleep

i'm going to quote girl interupted but not exactly
"when you don't want to feel death can seem like a dream" that pretty much somes up how i am most of the time right now i have more reasons to die than i have to live that might sound melodramatic but it is true

the only constant things in my life are my computer and my cat they are the only things in life i truely enjoy

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Response to Suicide 2003-01-28 01:19:34 Reply

Suicide should never come to one's mind when there's a time of crisis in his or her life.

In fact, we need to be optimistic, be creative, think of a solution using biblical or ethnical way and face the music with courage.

Suicide is quite of a loser's decision or something that comes out from a pessimistic person.

if there's a will
there's a way.

and commit suicide, in the eyes of GOD, is murdering him or herself. It's a sin.

beside that, nowadays terrorists like to use honourable suicide to those those ppl who feel their life is a piece of shit and would like to commit suicide to die for their cause, promising them they will reach heaven.

happens in Israel, where there is a plenty of Palestians suicide bombers.

actually, suicide bombing starts out from Japan. u know the Japanese Red Army in early 1970s, next is the tamil tigers in 1975s. i guess the Arabians stole the trend from them.

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Response to Suicide 2003-01-28 05:43:24 Reply

Kids were worked much harder in the old days and there was never a problem with suicide among the young. I mean when it was normal for a young boy to get a job at 13 or so, and had harsher restrictions at school including regular contact between parent and teacher and corpral punishment for back talk of not working. I blame teens killing themselves on this melodrama culture we have made for ourselves .Every little fucking thing is made into an end of the wold scenario. That, and the pressure of perfection that is embraced by young culture that is made so important by the media that if you are not able to obtain it then you are made to think that you are defective.

Personally I see nothing wrong with killing yourself. It is every persons right to do with their life as they see fit as long as it will not interfere with another. Leave religion out of it, you can’t tell others with different beliefs what to do. I just think that it’s sad how as a society we have managed to produce people so unable to cope with everyday life.

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Response to Suicide 2003-01-28 17:44:13 Reply

At 1/26/03 06:45 PM, semaGdniM wrote: Do you think that kids are forced and worked to hard or put into many tough situations and commiting suicide as a result? And if so, what is your view on suicide and how could it be stopped?

What is this a post to start a strike? There are so many factors put into a persons stress, self esteem, and self image. Most of the people that want to commit suicide are teens because of their stress factor in day to day life. I was messed with as a kid. and as a freshman in high school and it sucked ass. But unlike the people who want to commit suicide to get away from it all, i delt with it. I went to numerous numbers of people to find what i should do. Suicide is not only a pansy escape, but you will be landed in hell for throwing away what God gave you.
After you die its too late to ask for forgiveness.

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Response to Suicide 2003-01-29 06:34:40 Reply

I think depression is a weird thing and of course their is always an option out but... attempted suicide is not a cry for help cutting is... I thought about it a bit... the state you are in... its horrible and i think that if someone is going to commite suicide its hard to stop them. i mean sometimes people are just depressed. doens't matter what circumstances they are in. and denying free will. i donno but if someone wants to do it who are you to stop them.

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Response to Suicide 2003-01-29 14:19:34 Reply

You can't stop suicide really, some people see no other way out, you can't control the way they think. It's sad and tragic but it's a fact of life, people call it quits.

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Response to Suicide 2003-01-29 23:37:20 Reply

suicide is a crazy subject. i think kids these days are mentally abused a whole lot more. kids have gotten crazier, younger. kids are doing drugs at an earlier age, the dating scene is coming about in like, 4th grade now, and kids have more homework to do. so it doesnt surprise me that kids are looking for some relief. personally, i think that that is really fucked up and stupid, but those are the facts.

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Response to Suicide 2003-01-30 08:12:50 Reply

And most kids wouldn't even think of suicide as a "way out" if it wasn't so widely published.
Let's not write or talk about suicide anywhere on Earth for the next 5 years and see what happens to the suicide rate. I guarantee you it will drop.

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Response to Suicide 2003-01-31 00:58:00 Reply

I think comminting sucide would be interesting
im not depressed or anything
just a vey wierd little man
Just seeing what would happen after life
and shit like that
interesting
im just a very curious writter type guy


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Response to Suicide 2003-01-31 21:43:09 Reply

people motivate themselves. individuals in society want to be on top. if that means having the coolest suv at the soccer field or having the best grades in the class. these power hungry people go on to take on jobs of some importance and some even take jobs in the school system. these people they decide what the standards should be. they think that because they could achive a high grade that school for them was easy. thus they need to increase the requirements. if you are a loved one of these "i gotta be the best" type of people urge them to get help. they have a problem. they desire the unreachable and they put themselves at risk.

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Response to Suicide 2003-02-01 01:52:22 Reply

well that seems to be the case in Japan. over there school lasts 6 days a week all year and they have much higher standards than the US. Japan has the highest suicide rate in the entrire world. US or England maybe second. US has the most gun murders than all countries combined but thats another topic.

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Response to Suicide 2003-02-01 01:57:11 Reply

My view on suicidal american as whiny bitches who take thier life for granted. unless you're homeless you have got no worthy reason to kill yourself. Africa and China have life MUCH worse than the US. In Etheopia they have starvation, death squads, diseases. But arguably we have the same problems in the US. Fascist cops are the same as death squads many people in ghettos and slums are starving and cancer is a leading cause of death. People in the US have everything so much better than the rest of this world. you can whine and complain about your life but certainly don't kill yourself, its just goes to show how selfish you are.

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Response to Suicide 2003-02-01 11:36:43 Reply

you don't think that people in other countries want to commit suicide? People all over the world do it. It's not alwasy because of how you currently live but how you used to live. People with a troubling past will usually hide their feelings. Then a simple thing like something bad happening in school will trigger all of those feelings to come back at once. The person will feel confused and helpless and feel like their is no where to go. I don't approve of suicide by a long shot. I almost did it. But as for how god would feel, there is way to much about this christian god being all loving. If a person killed themself, god wouldn't want to send them to a land of more pain. That's just sick.

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Response to Suicide 2003-02-01 12:11:52 Reply

Man, I can't understand how someone can get so dpressed he/she could kill him/herself. In Holland, the only people commiting suicide are dopeheads and Calvinists... Guess life isn't as tough here as it is in other countries. Sure, I've had my share of ups and downs, but a lot would hsve to happen before I would consider killing myself. But heck, I'm just a 14 year old kid, what do I know?

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Response to Suicide 2003-02-13 19:22:15 Reply

At 1/26/03 06:45 PM, semaGdniM wrote: Do you think that kids are forced and worked to hard or put into many tough situations and commiting suicide as a result? And if so, what is your view on suicide and how could it be stopped?

dude i don't really even know

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Response to Suicide 2003-02-13 22:37:00 Reply

At 1/26/03 06:45 PM, semaGdniM wrote: Do you think that kids are forced and worked to hard or put into many tough situations and commiting suicide as a result? And if so, what is your view on suicide and how could it be stopped?

suicide can't be stopped
it's created by society. first of all you must make a differnce between the "impulsive suicides" and the "reasoned suicide"
impulsive suicide are mostly amateuristic.
reasoned suicide grows out of an urge for freedom or out of continuous (mental) pain. if you view your life as unhuman because of the continuous attacks on your personality suicide can be justified.
People say suicide is selfish ... that may very well be but forcing people to live against their will, just to avoid your personal pain is selfish as well.

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Response to Suicide 2003-05-08 10:03:18 Reply

At 1/26/03 06:45 PM, semaGdniM wrote: Do you think that kids are forced and worked to hard or put into many tough situations and commiting suicide as a result? And if so, what is your view on suicide and how could it be stopped?

Life is tough but running from it won't make it better. I think it is important not to feel alone..we all need at least one person on our side. Alot of kids/adults do it cause I guess they see no way out but 98% of the times there is and they just don't see/know it.