Islam

[Fantastico]

Is it just me, or does there seem to be like a sphere of protection around Islam? It's just that i see so many jokes taking the piss out of Christians, and like nothing about Muslims. I know there's the archives of OBL and jihad cracks, but nothing attacking the religion itself...

Also... arn't judasim, islam and christianity more like sects of the smae religion seeing as how similarities there are between them?

Religion's boring

People should be less religious and more spiritual

People who need to go to a mosque/synagog/church like most religious people do can't really have that much faith cause they blatantly need to keep re-affirming it.

I'm tring to cause controversy!

ANSWER ME DAMMIT!

[FreedomSlave]

I dislike religion,

I believe 80% of it is just a form of mind control. But at the same time it can bring peace and hapiness to people spiritually so i'm ok if people want to follow it as long as they dont push it on me.

Personally I like the eastern philosiphy of Taoism (pronounced Daoism.) but i'll go into that another day.

[Fantastico]

i used to live in Hong Kong: there were quite a few neo-taoists there...

i think that the only religion id be prepared to go in for would be buddhism,cause its probably teh least contra-dictory of the major sects... still, people should bbelive in god in their own way... that way they'd be less easy to manipulate by gurus and all those "religious leaders"

[TheShrike]

True, most religion is mind-control

Ever wonder why jews and muslims can't (or aren't supposed to) eat pork?

This stems from ancient times. Your common swine has a lont in common as far as physiology. Yoou can give a pig a cold, and it can give it to you. If you don't want your people to suffer plagues, tell them not to eat the 'filthy animal'.
Mind control.

Four words:
Darwinism, evolution, mmmmmm baaaacoooonnnnn

[MarijuanaClock]

Religion is the opium of the people.

All religion, the sooner organized religion ends the better this world will be.

[Speechless]

Hmmm so many religions sooo many similarities , almost like they come from one origin and one goal. Religion isn't mind control you are not forced to be religious you are or you aren't.

[Fantastico]

But they are...
children of so many very devout parents are actually brainwashed from day 1 that their religion is right.

They aren't given a choice: as for people who join a religion completely out of their own volition: well, this might be a bit harsh, but i think they are either foolish or weak people who can't get to grips with the harsh idea of mortality

[DarkCyrstal]

A is for Allah and nothing but Allah, the is the begining of this Region, T is for Yaqway the wearing of allah.
Thay is thawan the reward. Jah is Jammon the garden of Pardise. Ha is Hatch the blessed of the magic. Han is hatonn who seen of the prohpet heard, Muhammed.

Da is for deen, of this land. Religon with allah since time began. Va is for vick remembering Allah Ra is for the month of Ramandan. Holy Ramandan. Za is zacka to cure a breed when we give our money o those in need.

Sha is Shams the shining sun which Allah placed for everyone. Sa is Salla for when we pray, prasing him everyday, praising him till we meet our lord.
Allah there is only one god and Muhammed is his messenger.

Da is for Duhad the morning light the sun has torn from red to white. Ta is for Tareck a path to walk a cross. Tha is for thawill the shadow A is Alm the thing to know to make our knoledge to grow in this world. Ha is for Harad a word unseen in which we know is not dream. Ka is for Kalama a word were taought to teach us what is good and what is not.

Ma is for the messenger Muhamed. Allah there is only one god and Muhamed is his messenger.

Ha is for the Hidjara the the Journey the prophet made. Wa is woado before we prayer to wash our sins away.

[Alakazam]

I think you are getting fundamentalism confused with religion.

[Freakapotimus]

At 1/26/03 06:51 AM, MarijuanaClock wrote: Religion is the opium of the people.

Are you quoting Karl Marx? If so, it's actually "Religion is the opiate of the masses."

[whitedragon-my]

People make fun of christianity because a good majority of the people who post on this board are Christians. So they make fun of themselves. It's like how black people can call each other n****** but white people can't.

It's also because Christianity is the most widely known in the Western World. So more information is availible to ridicule. Islam on the other hand is more obscure, and with the whole terrorist deal people are now afraid of offending someone with racist remarks about Islam. Same thing for Judaism, people are still thinking about the Holocaust.

As for the whole Christianity, Islam, and Judaism being all the same religion, it's pretty much true. Judaism came first, Christianity came next, and Islam kind of sprang up along the way.

[Anti-corruption]

Religion should never be a dead set of rules or ritual stuff. however, it should be something like a knowledge for us to use when comes to decision-making.

[mikemiller1234]

islam is based on knowledge, but yes relgions do have a lot of rules but no matter what religon you are the ideas behind the rules are to help you. but when you get passed all the rules of islam it comes down to just knowledge the answers are all right in the quran

[JMHX]

At 8/17/03 11:01 PM, mikemiller1234 wrote: islam is based on knowledge, but yes relgions do have a lot of rules but no matter what religon you are the ideas behind the rules are to help you. but when you get passed all the rules of islam it comes down to just knowledge the answers are all right in the quran

The problem is, so many Muslims follow their religion so faithfully that they have allowed it to be turned into complete law, and have accepted that oppressing women and people of lower class is all right as long as it follows the Koran (Q-K, it goes either way). When you accept a religion completely and solely as law, then it opens up the floodgates for abuse of the system, and fundamentalists and extremists can find haven in that.

[BWS]

At 1/26/03 06:51 AM, MarijuanaClock wrote: Religion is the opium of the people.

All religion, the sooner organized religion ends the better this world will be.

So, since the fundamentals of relgion boil down to having good morals and values, we would be better off without them? That is illogical. Generally, each religion is based on treating people the way they ought to be treated; if we were without it, what standard would laws be based on?

[mikemiller1234]

Yes muslims follow there religon very strickty but thats how it should be. its wrong to be a christian and drink a lot and have sex with people besides those in your marraige. as to the comment about islam oppreses the women that could not be farther from the truth. that is simply just a myth

[JMHX]

At 8/18/03 01:04 AM, mikemiller1234 wrote: Yes muslims follow there religon very strickty but thats how it should be. its wrong to be a christian and drink a lot and have sex with people besides those in your marraige. as to the comment about islam oppreses the women that could not be farther from the truth. that is simply just a myth

Yes, since not being able to speak, hold a decent job, wear burkas all day, be forced to be childbearers and nothing more, be denied basic rights, and a plethora of other issues, that's not happening in Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, and most other Middle Eastern nations.

[Slizor]

Yes, since not being able to speak, hold a decent job, wear burkas all day, be forced to be childbearers and nothing more, be denied basic rights, and a plethora of other issues, that's not happening in Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, and most other Middle Eastern nations.

How long have women been emancipated in Western countries? How long have they had equal rights? Sure, they are more equal then in those countries, but it is not our issue. Only the people in that society can change it.

[Ravens-Grin]

At 8/18/03 07:48 AM, Slizor wrote: Only the people in that society can change it.

Not if we bomb 'em :)

[JMHX]

At 8/18/03 09:32 AM, Ravens_Grin wrote:

At 8/18/03 07:48 AM, Slizor wrote: Only the people in that society can change it.

Not if we bomb 'em :)

Now you're surfing the Bush wave!

[BleedingGumsMurphy]

At 1/25/03 11:10 PM, Fantastico wrote: Is it just me, or does there seem to be like a sphere of protection around Islam? It's just that i see so , and like nothing about Muslims. I know there's tmany jokes taking the piss out of Christians he archives of OBL and jihad cracks, but nothing attacking the religion itself...

Also... arn't judasim, islam and christianity more like sects of the smae religion seeing as how similarities there are between them?

Religion's boring

People should be less religious and more spiritual

People who need to go to a mosque/synagog/church like most religious people do can't really have that much faith cause they blatantly need to keep re-affirming it.

I'm tring to cause controversy!

ANSWER ME DAMMIT!

Not one person touched fully on what he said.
I'm sorry most of my responses will be mostly based on christianity because that is what I have to deal with where I live.

1. the statement "Religion is boring" is a fucking stupid thing to say and if you want to comment on religion in its purpose and need in modern society sight some fact or examples on where it has kept up with times (ex. islam's view of the woman's role in society, catholism view on dealing with a child malistor) or that the church services are just boring remember that some find them stimulating so thats not really funny and i snot an arguement it's an opinion.

2. I'm taking the next 2 and putting them together because they sound just about the same. I don't think going to church is to reaffirm your spiturality or to keep up with the revisions in the bible or something similiar because we have all heard the same stories over and over again. They go to find people like them. But you are right that people do need to be more spiritual.

And to end this some of my favorite sayings to piss off those dicks that come to my door at 8 in moring on a saturday to hand me gods word.

1. If we all come from Adam and Eve would that make your wife your cousin?

2. If the bible is gods word why was the old testment put in front of a committee, voted on, then pieced together? If it is all gods word why censor it? (that one usually gets them tongue tied)

3. When they hold up the bible and say they have a signed contract with jesus. Ask them to see the signature.

4. And for one of the funniest satires I ever go watch
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=72146

[mikemiller1234]

yes in the middle east many women are oppresed but that does not serve as muslims as a whole that is called culture

[Ravens-Grin]

At 8/18/03 03:39 PM, mikemiller1234 wrote: yes in the middle east many women are oppresed but that does not serve as muslims as a whole that is called culture

True, but Roman Catholic priests rape lil children, not other christians. Still christians get blamed.

[JMHX]

At 8/18/03 04:25 PM, Ravens_Grin wrote:

At 8/18/03 03:39 PM, mikemiller1234 wrote: yes in the middle east many women are oppresed but that does not serve as muslims as a whole that is called culture

True, but Roman Catholic priests rape lil children, not other christians. Still christians get blamed.

Expect to get a lot of crap if people in religious power do things immoral or illegal. That's how it works.

[Ravens-Grin]

Judge, i have a question. Don't you feel like slapping mikemiller1234 around a bit. I mean he has dropped the IQ level in this room from around 105 all the way down to 70. His posts are ridiculously stupid, nothing supports them. Is it possible for the admins to re-route his posts into the general forum?

[Adept-Omega]

It would probably be preferrable if he treated the BBS more like a BBS and less like a chatroom -- but to tell you the truth, straying off topic like this doesn't bode well either.

Mike, you might want to explain your ideas in a bit more detail, and get your spelling/punctuation/capitalization up to par if you don't want people casting aggrivated glances in your direction. It would probably be best for the condition of the whole BBS as well if everyone were a bit more toughtful in their posts.

[JMHX]

I agree. Give more meat to your opinions and views, Mike, or don't bother wasting the time of the people who post here.

[mikemiller1234]

theres not much to say when you put ingorant oppions out like that it takes very little to prove your wrong

[Ravens-Grin]

At 8/18/03 11:03 PM, mikemiller1234 wrote: theres not much to say when you put ingorant oppions out like that it takes very little to prove your wrong

Plz enlighten us with your views , including sources and links to the QURAN and BIBLE

[JMHX]

At 8/18/03 11:03 PM, mikemiller1234 wrote: theres not much to say when you put ingorant oppions out like that it takes very little to prove your wrong

You admitted that Islamic nations oppress the women, which was the opinion I stated with facts to back it up. How, exactly, was I wrong?