Questions on Islam answered !

[hypern]

I have a lot of knowledge on Islam, if thee is anything you would like me, I will happliy answer it for you !

[MoralLibertarian]

At 4/6/06 06:26 AM, hypern wrote: I have a lot of knowledge on Islam, if thee is anything you would like me, I will happliy answer it for you !

Why is the hadith and sharia such fucking bullshit?

[losiglow]

Why do the peaceful Muslims (the 15 trillion or so) put up with this fanatical bullcrap that gives them a bad name? Most religions have some fanatical breakoff but most try harder to disown or discourage them. I'm LDS (mormon) and we do everything in our power to make it known that the few thousand polygamists out in the deserts of Utah and Arizona are not part of the other 12+ million LDS people around the world that belong to the Chruch that hasn't practiced polygamy for over 100 years. The Catholics make it pretty well known, and usually punish pretty harshly those pedophile priests. I'm sure there are other examples. I just think the muslims of the world should be pimp-slapping the fanatics a little more, telling them to cut this crap out, even if it's just via the media. Maybe I don't understand the Muslim culture well enough.......

[peedee]

I thought Mormons can't go on the internet?

[<deleted>]

Where exactly in the Koran does it say that Mohammed cannot be shown in any artwork or drawing?

[hungapoe]

At 4/6/06 11:01 AM, Monoceros_Rex wrote: Where exactly in the Koran does it say that Mohammed cannot be shown in any artwork or drawing?

I think it actually does appear in the Koran where he cannot be portrayed in any paintings, so other then being an emotional diss it was a religious but I assume you ask this in connection to the comic strip over Mohammed. It was just a matter of being insulted and not wanting us dissing their prophet, which is pretty much bullshit seeing as they have driven planes into our country, keep rebelling against democracy and still complain about any help they get they are being complete arses in my opinion. Oh well

[No-one-inparticular]

Does Islam have an official position on the use of chemical and nuclear weapons?

What does the Qu'ran have to say about masturbation?

[hungapoe]

At 4/6/06 11:08 AM, SteelSwilla wrote: Does Islam have an official position on the use of chemical and nuclear weapons?

What does the Qu'ran have to say about masturbation?

I think for muslims and christians alike self-pleasure is a sin.

[Ginger-Dave]

At 4/6/06 11:08 AM, hungapoe wrote: which is pretty much bullshit seeing as they have driven planes into our country, keep rebelling against democracy and still complain about any help they get they are being complete arses in my opinion. Oh well

I would think a better argument would be that publications (newspapers etc.) in many Muslim states regularly rip the shit out of jews in a manner far worse than the Danish cartoons, so it's really rather hippocritical of them to complain.

[hungapoe]

At 4/6/06 11:15 AM, Ginger_Dave wrote:
I would think a better argument would be that publications (newspapers etc.) in many Muslim states regularly rip the shit out of jews in a manner far worse than the Danish cartoons, so it's really rather hippocritical of them to complain.

I know, but I am to lazy to point that out and Id rather just make them look even more stupid how they bathe in hypocricy.

[losiglow]

At 4/6/06 10:59 AM, peedee wrote: I thought Mormons can't go on the internet?

Well, we have to ask our Bishop first but yeah, we can go on the internet. LoL.

[seventy-one]

At 4/6/06 10:39 AM, losiglow wrote: Why do the peaceful Muslims (the 15 trillion or so) put up with this fanatical bullcrap that gives them a bad name? Most religions have some fanatical breakoff but most try harder to disown or discourage them. I'm LDS (mormon) and we do everything in our power to make it known that the few thousand polygamists out in the deserts of Utah and Arizona are not part of the other 12+ million LDS people around the world that belong to the Chruch that hasn't practiced polygamy for over 100 years. The Catholics make it pretty well known, and usually punish pretty harshly those pedophile priests. I'm sure there are other examples. I just think the muslims of the world should be pimp-slapping the fanatics a little more, telling them to cut this crap out, even if it's just via the media. Maybe I don't understand the Muslim culture well enough.......

http://cair.com/html/911statements.html
http://cair.com/defa..age=notislampetition

http://www.google.co..&rls=org.mozilla:en-
US:official

At 4/6/06 10:15 AM, MoralLibertarian wrote:

At 4/6/06 06:26 AM, hypern wrote: I have a lot of knowledge on Islam, if thee is anything you would like me, I will happliy answer it for you !

Why is the hadith and sharia such fucking bullshit?

The Hadith was written about Muhammad by other people after his death. One should read the Hadith and check it with the Quran. Sharia is people's interpretation of the Quran or Hadith, if you were to make your own 'Islamic law' (its really more like 'Law based on Islam') it would probably be different than the one in Saudi Arabia.
May I direct you to a sect of Islam that rejects the Hadith, Quran Alone muslims.

[seventy-one]

At 4/6/06 11:01 AM, Monoceros_Rex wrote: Where exactly in the Koran does it say that Mohammed cannot be shown in any artwork or drawing?

It is not mentioned in the Quran but rather in the Hadith, it is both as a sign of respect, and a form of rejecting idolatry.

At 4/6/06 11:08 AM, SteelSwilla wrote: Does Islam have an official position on the use of chemical and nuclear weapons?

Because a 1400 year old book would mention nuclear weapons? If you're referring to terrorism, let me supply you with this article: http://thetruereligi..cle.php?articleid=63

What does the Qu'ran have to say about masturbation?

Well, from what I've researched, there are verses like this: 'Those who guard their sexual organs except with their spouses or those whom their right hands possess, for (with regard to them) they are without blame. But those who crave something beyond that are transgressors.' (Al-Mu'minoon:5-7) Scholars say that "something beyond that" means masturbation in the sense that if you have a wife who is willing to have sex with you, then masturbation is something beyond that. Thus, it leads some scholars to say that masturbation is lawful if you don't have a wife, or you can't control your pent up sexual energy, even with your wife.

[No-one-inparticular]

At 4/6/06 01:50 PM, seventy-one wrote:

At 4/6/06 11:01 AM, Monoceros_Rex wrote:

At 4/6/06 11:08 AM, SteelSwilla wrote: Does Islam have an official position on the use of chemical and nuclear weapons?

Because a 1400 year old book would mention nuclear weapons?

I meant modern Islam, as in, what do the greatest minds of the Islamic faith in the twenty-first think about weapons of mass-destruction?-first century say about.

[No-one-inparticular]

At 4/6/06 02:15 PM, SteelSwilla wrote:

At 4/6/06 01:50 PM, seventy-one wrote:

At 4/6/06 11:01 AM, Monoceros_Rex wrote:

At 4/6/06 11:08 AM, SteelSwilla wrote: Does Islam have an official position on the use of chemical and nuclear weapons?

Because a 1400 year old book would mention nuclear weapons?

(Sorry for the double post....completely butchered my reply.) I meant modern Islam, as in, what do the greatest minds of the Islamic faith in the twenty-first century think about weapons of mass-destruction?

[Sgt-Master-Cheif]

Why did the radical muslim s(pony)holes have to ruin such a good religion? I mean, it ACCEPTED christianity and judaism. And the second most repeated word, after Allah(god, duh!), is ilm(knowledge).! And why did they change Jihad from just "struggle" to "holy war"?

[TwO-FaCeD-PaRaNoID]

At 4/6/06 01:50 PM, seventy-one wrote:

What does the Qu'ran have to say about masturbation?

Well, from what I've researched, there are verses like this: 'Those who guard their sexual organs except with their spouses or those whom their right hands possess, for (with regard to them) they are without blame. But those who crave something beyond that are transgressors.' (Al-Mu'minoon:5-7) Scholars say that "something beyond that" means masturbation in the sense that if you have a wife who is willing to have sex with you, then masturbation is something beyond that. Thus, it leads some scholars to say that masturbation is lawful if you don't have a wife, or you can't control your pent up sexual energy, even with your wife.

do you mean they think masturbation is good in controlling yourselves from rape and lust and things?? Cause ive noticed they do much to protect women.. (like covering their body up with towels)

[losiglow]

At 4/6/06 01:35 PM, seventy-one wrote:

http://cair.com/html/911statements.html
http://cair.com/defa..age=notislampetition

http://www.google.co..&rls=org.mozilla:en-
US:official

It was good to see this. Thanks seventy-one. I guess I just haven't seen alot of it on TV and was under the false impression that Muslims didn't care. It's another subject all together but I'm not sure this is something that some Media entities want to make a big deal of as it might somehow put Muslims on the side of the U.S.'s war on terror.

[HighlyIllogical]

At 4/6/06 11:22 AM, hungapoe wrote:

I know, but I am to lazy to point that out and Id rather just make them look even more stupid how they bathe in hypocricy.

Muslim hypocricy is quite refreshing. But, damn, does it piss me off!

[seventy-one]

At 4/6/06 02:17 PM, SteelSwilla wrote:
(Sorry for the double post....completely butchered my reply.) I meant modern Islam, as in, what do the greatest minds of the Islamic faith in the twenty-first century think about weapons of mass-destruction?

Well, because Islam has no center like a Vatican, a reputable scholar in one place has no cache in another, but mainly scholars in the west, and europe think that WMD's are all in all, bad things. Scholars however, in lets say, Iran would say that they should be used. Its generally geographic, but I'm sure the majority in most places denounce the use of them, though the "radicals" if you will, tend to stray in Saudi Arabia and Iran. Though, I myself am not up to date with many of the scholars' located in the middle east (you might want to ask arab-freak), rather I hear more, listen to more, the ones here. And I can tell you that many scholars in North American denounce WMD's and terrorism.

At 4/6/06 02:21 PM, Sgt_Master_Cheif wrote: Why did the radical muslim s(pony)holes have to ruin such a good religion? I mean, it ACCEPTED christianity and judaism. And the second most repeated word, after Allah(god, duh!), is ilm(knowledge).! And why did they change Jihad from just "struggle" to "holy war"?

I'm afraid I don't know what goes on in insane people's minds, like Osama. Though some people say that it stems from the European colonization of the region.

At 4/6/06 02:29 PM, TwO_FaCeD_PaRaNoID wrote: do you mean they think masturbation is good in controlling yourselves from rape and lust and things?? Cause ive noticed they do much to protect women.. (like covering their body up with towels)

Aye, if you have pent up energy and your wife doesn't want to have sex, odds are rape is going to happen if you don't release that energy. As for the latter part, the veil used to be a form of a status symbol among muslim women (if you're rich you don't need to talk and face the "commoners") but eventually it became the thing, and everyone wore it, somehow down the line husbands (likely for protection) made their wives wear it, in fact Reza Aslan (an Islamic scholar) contends that it became mandatory only during the decolonization period.

[mofomojo]

At 4/6/06 11:11 AM, hungapoe wrote:

At 4/6/06 11:08 AM, SteelSwilla wrote: Does Islam have an official position on the use of chemical and nuclear weapons?

What does the Qu'ran have to say about masturbation?

I think for muslims and christians alike self-pleasure is a sin.

That's for Catholics. Self-pleasure in Orthodox and Protestant doctrines says nothing against masturbation, or so I think.

They're against impure thought, not masturbation.

Furthermore, why do Muslims get so outraged when others defecate their religion? I mean, Christians don't get so outraged at similar events.

[hungapoe]

At 4/6/06 03:19 PM, mofomojo wrote:

At 4/6/06 11:11 AM, hungapoe wrote:

At 4/6/06 11:08 AM, SteelSwilla wrote: Does Islam have an official position on the use of chemical and nuclear weapons?

What does the Qu'ran have to say about masturbation?

I think for muslims and christians alike self-pleasure is a sin.

That's for Catholics. Self-pleasure in Orthodox and Protestant doctrines says nothing against masturbation, or so I think.

Im not so sure about Protestant but im pretty sure the Eastern Orthodox has no tolerance on self pleasure, Id assume Protestants (Lutherans for one) have same rules but it all differs.

They're against impure thought, not masturbation.

Furthermore, why do Muslims get so outraged when others defecate their religion? I mean, Christians don't get so outraged at similar events.

[MoralLibertarian]

At 4/6/06 01:35 PM, seventy-one wrote: May I direct you to a sect of Islam that rejects the Hadith, Quran Alone muslims.

That's what I am. Except I'm awful.

Unrelated but purposeful: what kind of a person says, "I know lots about islam! Ask questions!" and then peaces out.

[SpecialK13]

At 4/6/06 11:08 AM, hungapoe wrote:

At 4/6/06 11:01 AM, Monoceros_Rex wrote: Where exactly in the Koran does it say that Mohammed cannot be shown in any artwork or drawing?

I think it actually does appear in the Koran where he cannot be portrayed in any paintings,

I could have swore that only a practicing muslim couldn't potray Mohammad in artwork.

[KemCab]

At 4/6/06 10:39 AM, losiglow wrote: Why do the peaceful Muslims (the 15 trillion or so)

Wow. You should read some facts sometime.

[JoS]

Well according to Iran, nuclear weapons go against the teachings of Islam and any country that has them cannot truely be followers of Islam.

[x-Toadenalin-x]

At 4/6/06 10:15 AM, MoralLibertarian wrote: Why is the hadith such fucking bullshit?

The Hadith for Muslims is about as valid as, say, Corinthians or Galatians are to Christians. It may all be rubbish, or it may all be true. Almost all Muslims would say it contains many interesting moral messages.

[MoralLibertarian]

At 4/7/06 03:46 AM, JoS wrote: Well according to Iran, nuclear weapons go against the teachings of Islam and any country that has them cannot truely be followers of Islam.

They're just jealous they don't have them. And they like to think this way because they hate every country that has them.

At 4/7/06 07:45 AM, x_Toadenalin_x wrote:

At 4/6/06 10:15 AM, MoralLibertarian wrote: Why is the hadith such fucking bullshit?

The Hadith for Muslims is about as valid as, say, Corinthians or Galatians are to Christians. It may all be rubbish, or it may all be true. Almost all Muslims would say it contains many interesting moral messages.

Yeah, like women are half a person.

[<deleted>]

At 4/6/06 03:19 PM, mofomojo wrote:

At 4/6/06 11:11 AM, hungapoe wrote:

At 4/6/06 11:08 AM, SteelSwilla wrote: Does Islam have an official position on the use of chemical and nuclear weapons?

What does the Qu'ran have to say about masturbation?

I think for muslims and christians alike self-pleasure is a sin.

That's for Catholics.

Of course it is.

Why should Catholics have to pleasure themselves when they have an all-to-willing altar boy to do it for them?

[No-one-inparticular]

At 4/7/06 10:20 AM, Monoceros_Rex wrote:

At 4/6/06 11:08 AM, SteelSwilla wrote:

Why should Catholics have to pleasure themselves when they have an all-to-willing altar boy to do it for them?

Hey, fundy

SHUT THE FUCK UP