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Response to Speed of light 2006-04-07 02:48:27 Reply

Well, the speed of light is 3x10 to the 8, So, it can be broken, but humans have not reached that potential in Technology yet. But I believe that humanity will eventually reach that point and break it.

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Response to Speed of light 2006-04-07 03:12:50 Reply

At 4/7/06 02:48 AM, Demons_Remorse wrote: Well, the speed of light is 3x10 to the 8, So, it can be broken, but humans have not reached that potential in Technology yet. But I believe that humanity will eventually reach that point and break it.

Out of curiosity, how does the fact that it is 3*10^8 make it brakable?

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Response to Speed of light 2006-04-07 03:22:27 Reply

At 4/7/06 03:12 AM, bakem0n0 wrote:
At 4/7/06 02:48 AM, Demons_Remorse wrote: Well, the speed of light is 3x10 to the 8, So, it can be broken, but humans have not reached that potential in Technology yet. But I believe that humanity will eventually reach that point and break it.
Out of curiosity, how does the fact that it is 3*10^8 make it brakable?

It's not breakeable. You can't travel faster than something that is always travelling 186,000 miles per second faster than you. The only way around this problem is to take a shortcut in space, which may or may not be possible.

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Response to Speed of light 2006-04-07 07:32:21 Reply

At 4/7/06 01:21 AM, -poxpower- wrote: How are they able to verify this?
Or to come to that realisation?

I didn't understand the physics behind it, but I know how they did it basically. They split apart a hydrogen atom, then fired half of it down a particle accelerator until it was about 20km away, while at the same time putting the other half in a magnetic field to stop it from breaking apart. They then changed the spin on one electron, and the other changed almost instantly.

However, the experiment worked properly in only 1% of cases, so entanglement is far from empirically proven!

At 4/6/06 09:18 AM, -poxpower- wrote: Ever imagined what the world would look like if light traveled at the speed of sound? That would be fucked up. Haha. Or even slower. Like, 1 m/s ? good times in nerdsville.

You can get light to travel slightly faster than walking pace by running it through Bose-Einstien condansates, but they are so unstable it will be a long time before anyone can do anything cool with them.

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Response to Speed of light 2006-04-07 07:46:56 Reply

At 4/7/06 07:32 AM, x_Toadenalin_x wrote:
I didn't understand the physics behind it, but I know how they did it basically. They split apart a hydrogen atom, then fired half of it down a particle accelerator until it was about 20km away, while at the same time putting the other half in a magnetic field to stop it from breaking apart. They then changed the spin on one electron, and the other changed almost instantly.

However, the experiment worked properly in only 1% of cases, so entanglement is far from empirically proven!

Well, that's more of a problem in limitations in our current technology, than a flaw in the theory. Thing is, that entanglement was seen by Erwin Schroedinger as a mathematical corollary to Einstein's Special Relativity, which, though it is at some odds with, was the birthplace of quantum mechanics. The math that predicted entanglement has been around for years. And it was one of the reasons that Einstein rejected quantum mechanics (the other being the probibalistic nature of the theory) even though it was a combination of his relativity and quantum mechanics that brought it about. Only recently have we had instrumentation precise enough to test this theory. And it's shown to hold up as well as we can expect with our crude instrumentation.

You can get light to travel slightly faster than walking pace by running it through Bose-Einstien condansates, but they are so unstable it will be a long time before anyone can do anything cool with them.

Scientists have actually been able to create a time-travelling light wave/particle doing this as well. Where the ray of light has arrived at the destination sensor before it left. We're talking billionths of a second, but still... pretty impressive proof of Einstein's theory that past c time will run backwards.


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Response to Speed of light 2006-04-08 04:14:31 Reply

What I don't realize is what the speed of light has to do with politics?

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Response to Speed of light 2006-04-08 04:21:51 Reply

At 4/8/06 04:14 AM, Redbob86 wrote: What I don't realize is what the speed of light has to do with politics?

it doesnt, but in here, its more likely that youll get an intelligant post rather than a bunch of idiots


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Response to Speed of light 2006-04-08 04:23:23 Reply

it doesnt, but in here, its more likely that youll get an intelligant post rather than a bunch of idiots

Yeah, but then again this is also the place where you will find more atheists complaining as a method to cover up their insecurities. Oh well, this is a forum for a site about cartoons, odds are it's not going to attract the brightest. No offense.

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Response to Speed of light 2006-04-08 05:39:33 Reply

I think it can be broken, just we havent found out how yet, and we wont for a while.
Light has some mass, extremely little, but it has some mass, thats how it gets sucked into a blackhole. We just need to find something lighter than light.

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Response to Speed of light 2006-04-08 11:52:36 Reply

The answer is relativistic mass. You'd need an infinite amount of energy to accelerate something with mass to the speed of light.

Also, the equation only has two infinities because there's one on each side. Most equations with infinity in them are going to end up with infinity or zero on the other side.

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Response to Speed of light 2006-04-08 13:31:23 Reply

speed of light broken seems impossible but in some show i saw it done but using light to go faster but us or our machine doing that seems inprobable but not entirly impossible until we all die it pretty hard beating 186,000 miles per second in years it 6 trillion or near there per year

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Response to Speed of light 2006-04-08 16:50:56 Reply

At 4/6/06 09:18 AM, -poxpower- wrote:
Wasn't there some small reaction that went faster than light though? I remember reading about this recently. Like when a particle changes somewhere, it instantly affects others at a great distance, thuse effecting a force faster than light can travel.

meh.

What u are talking about is called quantum entanglement. It means that two particles can exist that only have properties in common, so whatever happens to one happens to the other at the same moment, no matter how far apart they are

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Response to Speed of light 2006-04-09 12:39:37 Reply

At 4/8/06 04:50 PM, PhysicsMafia wrote:
At 4/6/06 09:18 AM, -poxpower- wrote:
Wasn't there some small reaction that went faster than light though? I remember reading about this recently. Like when a particle changes somewhere, it instantly affects others at a great distance, thuse effecting a force faster than light can travel.

meh.
What u are talking about is called quantum entanglement. It means that two particles can exist that only have properties in common, so whatever happens to one happens to the other at the same moment, no matter how far apart they are

am i right in saying that its quantum entanglement that allows you to find both the position AND velocity of a particle but at the cost of destroying the original particle?


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