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At 1/23/03 08:28 PM, Bush_is_a_moron wrote: i recentlly heard on the news that a high school student was expelled for wearing her hair in dred locks to school.

Is this a private school? If so, they are allowed to do what they want.

If it is a public school, then they've got to abide by the Tinker standard, which essentially states as long as there's no "material substantial" disruption, you can do what you want.

FTW.

Lol pollitical correctness, it cannot be possible on a dutchschool though.

Hey seven, your profile says you're a teacher, does your school have clothingrules?

Wait, seven, you went to a public school in the US and they did that?

That's not right.

"It is also relevant that the school authorities did not purport to prohibit the wearing of all symbols of political or controversial significance. The record shows that students in some of the schools wore buttons relating to national political campaigns, and some even wore the Iron Cross, traditionally a symbol of Nazism. The order prohibiting the wearing of armbands did not extend to these. Instead, a particular symbol--black armbands worn to exhibit opposition to this Nation's involvement [511] in Vietnam--was singled out for prohibition. Clearly, the prohibition of expression of one particular opinion, at least without evidence that it is necessary to avoid material and substantial interference with schoolwork or discipline, is not constitutionally permissible.

In our system, state-operated schools may not be enclaves of totalitarianism. School officials do not possess absolute authority over their students. Students in school as well as out of school are "persons" under our Constitution. They are possessed of fundamental rights which the State must respect, just as they themselves must respect their obligations to the State. In our system, students may not be regarded as closed-circuit recipients of only that which the State chooses to communicate. They may not be confined to the expression of those sentiments that are officially approved. In the absence of a specific showing of constitutionally valid reasons to regulate their speech, students are entitled to freedom of expression of their views. As Judge Gewin, speaking for the Fifth Circuit, said, school officials cannot suppress "expressions of feelings with which they do not wish to contend." Burnside v. Byars, supra, at 749."

-Tinker v. Des Moines

There was one the other day in the UK some lad got expelled for having a "skinhead", i mean if people want to shave there hair off that their choice.

i remember going through middle school, no dress code, and during the summer the school board had an unannounced meeting on school dress code, since no one showed up, the few school board members that showed up voted for it of course, and BAM, it was in.

but the funny thing was, the dress code stated that guys had to weak khaki pants and an oxford style blue or white shirt, which i was already wearing the khaki pants anyway, to be different from the other students, because i hated how they dressed in their pants sagging down around their damn ankles half the time.. anyway, they were royally pissed that they had to dress proper and wear a belt tight enough to keep their pants on, and the ROTC ENFORCED IT WITH AN IRON FIST! needless to say, i was pissed because then i looked just like the rest of them... oh well, at least they dressed decent half the time.

At 1/27/03 12:38 PM, Alakazam wrote: Sorry, you are not black, so you cannot have this hairstyle.

At my high school, head coverings like scarves or bandanas were prohibitied unless you wore them for religious reasons. The rule was only enforced if you were white. Black girls were permitted to wear bandanas without question even though they were not Muslim or any other faith which required them to cover their heads.

I was never punished for wearing one because after the first reprimand I stopped wearing them, but I know girls who got "written up" for continuing to wear their bandanas. In both cases I know of, the administrator who reported them was a black woman who was notorious for her unequal treatment of white students. But since there were only 35 or 40 black kids in a school of 1,000, nobody dared say anything.

my middle school dress code for hair says your hair cant be lower than your eyebrows for EVRYONE not just athleltics so it kinda piss me off too

There is no way this topic starter is nineteen years old.

maybe the students were bandalising the skool with their horribel hair cuts.

Note: She wasn't expelled per se, she just left and never came back.

At 1/23/03 08:28 PM, Bush_is_a_moron wrote: i would like to know if there is one douche bag out there who wants to defend this schools action.

I will.

It should be illegal for women to have dreadlocks. she could use them as weapons be lashing them out at people. Safety hazard.

People with mohawks look stupid and could be hiding weapons in their hair

At 1/25/03 01:09 AM, acidicdoll wrote: that's so dumb.. even though i did note i got more suspensions then ive ever had before when i had a mohawk.. for things i had done on a daily basis too. but not expelled.

Don't make yourself a target if you don't want to deal with the problems that come with it.

Thats not the story, the school has a strict hair policy and claims the girl knew the rules.

They suspended her until she would apply to the rules, and she isnt do so on the matter of the principle. She wasnt expelled.

I would very much like to see sited sources on this topic, out of two pages of information pertaining to the first post I havent seen any, and I only ask because he mentioned that he had "heard on the news" about this.

To the poster above me, how do you know what the story is if there isnt a sited source?

High school stundents that dont conform to the ways of society try to find an outlet for there passion. Many wish to stand out in the world while the educational system shuts them down and forces adolescents to turn inward with there hatred. Too many of us uphold ridiculous morales in public to uphold the standard of what society should be, while in private those same people are the ones with more problems.

At my school, the teacher's don't mind dred locks, mohawks, or any kind weird-@ss hair style. Unless, if it's a swatstika, then they'll be upset.

It shouldnt be about the teachers opinions at all whatsoever, public schools reflect what the majority of the nation grow up to be. The administrators of each school establishment need to enforce the freedoms we want to have as adults, retricting liberties in public school encourage more rebellion than if left alone to do what they do. If a person feels certain about any way they grew up with, they should be able to express it in their freedom, whatever memorabilia or icons they want to wear.

Restricting any liberties encourage resistance in many individuals, rebelling against the system becomes a common cause among teenagers

If it's stated in the school handbook that wearing your hair in dread locks is not allowed, than she deserves to be expelled. Although I think that's VERY harsh, the rules are the rules. Maybe a warning, and than a suspension would be effective, but I think expulsion from school crosses the line.

Rules are rules?

Would you not agree that rules are sometimes unfair and unjust? Attitude like that keeps rules and ammendments that are unconstitutional stay in place instead of creating just ones.