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At 5/30/08 02:18 PM, EvilJesus wrote: On FFVIII the last boss is a bitch along with you have to acquire all your abilities back from defeating mini bosses compared to it (and they alone fuck you up)

I found the FFVIII boss to be quite easy.

It doesn't matter what level you're on.

All you have to do is get squall on aura and keep using Renzokuken.

Or, if you're wanting to be a little more strategic, you can get rid of all of Rinoa's offensive magic except Meteor, put her on Angel Wing and haste, and have her do 50,000 every turn without you having to select anything yourself.

That's how I beat Omega weapon, though I had to use a couple of Holy Wars.

At 5/30/08 01:07 PM, Bahamut wrote: I played FFX first, and then FFVIII.

But Zell was created first ;P

They didn't seem to be so bad in FFVII either. Then again, the only place I can remember seeing them on the game is in the Snowy mountains (forgot name of the place now, but whatever).

Nah, they were nothing in FFVII.

Other tough little bastards are the Tonberrys...little fucks.

At 5/30/08 02:18 PM, EvilJesus wrote: Nah, Zell is kinda like like a extreme loud mouth and more toughed up version of Tidus... kinda...

Zell was cool. He was funny, that´s why he´s one of my favourite characters from the game.

When i was playing VIII first attack it did was bad breathe so it was an instand KO seeing as it put confuse on my party.

Well, it wasn´t a sure KO, because once you get hit physically it takes of Confuse, so you can survive sometimes.

From all the FFs that i got to the last boss (VIII not quite X, sin is a bitch and X-2) VIII was the hardest and X-2 was just pathetic, piss easy with lv. 50 characters and not full abilities.
However, if you need a challenge i recommend VIII but what is VII like?

FFVIII boss wasn´t really difficult in my opinion. I thought the idea of taking away all your abilities in the Ultimecia castle was pretty good, but it could be quite difficult if you weren´t leveled up a bit. But i like a challenge :)

At 5/30/08 05:46 PM, Kuro wrote: All you have to do is get squall on aura and keep using Renzokuken.

True, but it takes the fun out of it. If you´re lucky and get his lionheart final attack, you can finish it in no-time.

Or, if you're wanting to be a little more strategic, you can get rid of all of Rinoa's offensive magic except Meteor, put her on Angel Wing and haste, and have her do 50,000 every turn without you having to select anything yourself.
That's how I beat Omega weapon, though I had to use a couple of Holy Wars.

Never tried that.

At 5/31/08 09:41 AM, Life-Stream wrote:

At 5/30/08 01:07 PM, Bahamut wrote: I played FFX first, and then FFVIII.

But Zell was created first ;P

Yes, yes, I know that, but the fact that I played FFX before FFVIII still stands.

They didn't seem to be so bad in FFVII either. Then again, the only place I can remember seeing them on the game is in the Snowy mountains (forgot name of the place now, but whatever).

Nah, they were nothing in FFVII.

Other tough little bastards are the Tonberrys...little fucks.

Damn, yeah. Tonberrys were pretty nasty on VII. That Everyone's Grudge move can kill one ally instantly. :( Usually, I'm better off attacking and attacking until I kill one, even if it means to get hurt by that Everyone's Grudge move.

At 5/31/08 11:16 AM, Bahamut wrote:

Damn, yeah. Tonberrys were pretty nasty on VII. That Everyone's Grudge move can kill one ally instantly. :( Usually, I'm better off attacking and attacking until I kill one, even if it means to get hurt by that Everyone's Grudge move.

Didn't everyone think they were cute at first, harmless even.. You hit them, they moved closer, it continues then before you know two of your characters are dead and you hate the little fucker.

At 5/31/08 11:34 AM, Gagsy wrote: Didn't everyone think they were cute at first, harmless even.. You hit them, they moved closer, it continues then before you know two of your characters are dead and you hate the little fucker.

Oh sure, they were cute alright, with their little lantern and knife, but they were lethal little bastards.

The FFVIII Tonberry summon was quite humorous though with the little speak bubble - ´DOINK´.

At 5/31/08 12:43 PM, Life-Stream wrote:

Oh sure, they were cute alright, with their little lantern and knife, but they were lethal little bastards.

I still want to buy a Tonberry plush.

The FFVIII Tonberry summon was quite humorous though with the little speak bubble - ´DOINK´.

Lol yeah it was awesome. If I remember completely, wasn't that a complete bitch of a summon to get?

At 5/31/08 01:35 PM, Gagsy wrote: I still want to buy a Tonberry plush.

lol. They´re just as cute as chocobos.

Lol yeah it was awesome. If I remember completely, wasn't that a complete bitch of a summon to get?

Bloody hell, it was a pain in the ass to kill all those Tonberrys. I got him as soon as you could get to the bottom continent so i wasn´t really levelled up a great deal so those tonberrys were really tough >:(

At 5/31/08 02:09 PM, Life-Stream wrote:

lol. They´re just as cute as chocobos.

And nearly as cute as Cactuar. Who I hated and loved at the same time.

Bloody hell, it was a pain in the ass to kill all those Tonberrys. I got him as soon as you could get to the bottom continent so i wasn´t really levelled up a great deal so those tonberrys were really tough >:(

Lol yeah that was it! Was it something like killing 20 in a role without leaving? something stupidly hard. I love that game, most replay someday, so underrated in my opinon.

At 5/31/08 02:45 PM, Gagsy wrote: Lol yeah that was it! Was it something like killing 20 in a role without leaving? something stupidly hard. I love that game, most replay someday, so underrated in my opinon.

Again, all you had to do was keep Squall on low health throughout, and then keep using Renzokuken.

He could kill them in two or so moves by the time I got up to the part of the game where you could get Odin.

Bloody limit breaks making the game so easy.

At 5/31/08 02:45 PM, Gagsy wrote: And nearly as cute as Cactuar. Who I hated and loved at the same time.

Oh, giant Cactuar was uber cool with his little itialian moustache :3

Lol yeah that was it! Was it something like killing 20 in a role without leaving? something stupidly hard. I love that game, most replay someday, so underrated in my opinon.

Indeed, great game. Shame alot of people didn´t like it :(

At 5/31/08 05:17 PM, Kuro wrote: Bloody limit breaks making the game so easy.

The FFVII way was better, you get limits when you get hit. That way you couldn´t just use them all the time, cos God knows everyone took advantage of the low health limit idea in FFVIII.

At 5/31/08 05:17 PM, Kuro wrote:

Again, all you had to do was keep Squall on low health throughout, and then keep using Renzokuken.

Oh I did it, it's just been a long time since I played it, back when it originally came out. I forget things.

At 5/31/08 05:34 PM, Life-Stream wrote:

Oh, giant Cactuar was uber cool with his little itialian moustache :3

Except when he hit you with 10,000 needles. Asshole <='3

Indeed, great game. Shame alot of people didn´t like it :(

I just can't work out why, it was a lot different to VII yeah but in a good way really, it'd be boring if it was the same style. Much better then 9 too.

At 5/31/08 05:17 PM, Kuro wrote: Bloody limit breaks making the game so easy.

The FFVII way was better, you get limits when you get hit. That way you couldn´t just use them all the time, cos God knows everyone took advantage of the low health limit idea in FFVIII.

I don't think I remember the limit break for 8 much. All I remember was I kept missing =[

At 5/31/08 05:51 PM, Gagsy wrote: Except when he hit you with 10,000 needles. Asshole <='3

Yeah but he didn´t do that much. He did have loads of HP though. I remember it took me ages to kill him o_O

I just can't work out why, it was a lot different to VII yeah but in a good way really, it'd be boring if it was the same style. Much better then 9 too.

Yeah, i suppose change is good, not always the same kind of world, so i don´t know why people didn´t accept it like they did VII.

I don't think I remember the limit break for 8 much. All I remember was I kept missing =[

lol, it wasn´t hard once you got the hang of it. All you had to do was press R1 when the blue wave thing passes through the box.

At 6/1/08 04:19 AM, Life-Stream wrote:

Yeah but he didn´t do that much. He did have loads of HP though. I remember it took me ages to kill him o_O

I have that sneaky feeling that when I faced him *I* was unlucky and had two dead at the same time.

Yeah, i suppose change is good, not always the same kind of world, so i don´t know why people didn´t accept it like they did VII.

I think it helped VII that it was the first of it's kind of them PS1, of course there were other rpgs coming out but it was the first FF and it just changed how we played rpgs before that gen really. It was groundbreaking really.

lol, it wasn´t hard once you got the hang of it. All you had to do was press R1 when the blue wave thing passes through the box.

Yeah I think I scrwed up on that a lot.. <=[

At 6/1/08 04:19 AM, Life-Stream wrote: Yeah, i suppose change is good, not always the same kind of world, so i don´t know why people didn´t accept it like they did VII.

I didn't accept it as much because I thought it was an inferior battle system to FFVII's.

I'm all for change, but only when the change is good.

It's just that FFVIII set itself out so that all you ever needed to do was attack and use limit breaks.

Magic was something you never really needed, except maybe for healing.

I liked all the other PS1/2 battle systems, though.

At 6/1/08 08:03 AM, Gagsy wrote: I think it helped VII that it was the first of it's kind of them PS1, of course there were other rpgs coming out but it was the first FF and it just changed how we played rpgs before that gen really. It was groundbreaking really.

Yeah, FFVII was basically a ground mark in video game history. It set the level for every RPG. Barely any come close to it though.

At 6/1/08 08:25 AM, Kuro wrote: I didn't accept it as much because I thought it was an inferior battle system to FFVII's.

FFVII´s is hard to better.

At 5/31/08 05:34 PM, Life-Stream wrote:

At 5/31/08 05:17 PM, Kuro wrote: Bloody limit breaks making the game so easy.

The FFVII way was better, you get limits when you get hit. That way you couldn´t just use them all the time, cos God knows everyone took advantage of the low health limit idea in FFVIII.

I just had the other characters attack, then hit the square button till Squall did Renzokuken at full health.

I have become obsessed with a borrowed copy of Crisis Core.

At 6/1/08 08:25 AM, Kuro wrote: It's just that FFVIII set itself out so that all you ever needed to do was attack and use limit breaks.

Most of the time but if you start hunting for high level monsters which are on the closest island to hell (only had one kill there so far, <3 Odin) you have to use magic and GFs

Magic was something you never really needed, except maybe for healing.

Triple ultima on the cactus was fun :3
POW POW POW and yet i stilled died :O

At 5/31/08 11:34 AM, Gagsy wrote:

At 5/31/08 11:16 AM, Bahamut wrote: Damn, yeah. Tonberrys were pretty nasty on VII. That Everyone's Grudge move can kill one ally instantly. :( Usually, I'm better off attacking and attacking until I kill one, even if it means to get hurt by that Everyone's Grudge move.

Didn't everyone think they were cute at first, harmless even.. You hit them, they moved closer, it continues then before you know two of your characters are dead and you hate the little fucker.

lol. When I first saw them, I was like "Who is he?" so I kept attacking him until he came close to me and instantly killed me. I was like "WHAT THE FUCK?!?!" and that happened in the Battle Square so I had to redo the battles again to get more Battle Points.

At 5/31/08 02:45 PM, Gagsy wrote:

At 5/31/08 02:09 PM, Life-Stream wrote:

lol. They´re just as cute as chocobos.

And nearly as cute as Cactuar. Who I hated and loved at the same time.

Cactuars are awesome, but their extremely high evasion can be a pain at times. I can't remember the first time I saw a Cactuar. I think it was on FFVII, but eh, hard to recall now. They didn't have a big role on that game like they did on FFX.

At 6/1/08 08:42 AM, Wonko-the-Sane wrote: I just had the other characters attack, then hit the square button till Squall did Renzokuken at full health.

Yeah, i did that trick too, but still, you had to have quite low health to get a limit break.

I have become obsessed with a borrowed copy of Crisis Core.

:( I still want to play that!

At 6/1/08 09:04 AM, EvilJesus wrote: Most of the time but if you start hunting for high level monsters which are on the closest island to hell (only had one kill there so far, <3 Odin) you have to use magic and GFs

That depends what level you are i suppose. I have level 99 characters so i can just use attack on them guys aswell.

At 6/1/08 09:47 AM, Bahamut wrote: Cactuars are awesome, but their extremely high evasion can be a pain at times. I can't remember the first time I saw a Cactuar. I think it was on FFVII, but eh, hard to recall now. They didn't have a big role on that game like they did on FFX.

Yeah, they´re quite hard to hit, but when you finally do get them, they die in one hit luckily.

I remember them in FFVII, they were very rare, but they gave you huge amounts of AP.

At 6/1/08 10:47 AM, Life-Stream wrote:

At 6/1/08 09:04 AM, EvilJesus wrote: Most of the time but if you start hunting for high level monsters which are on the closest island to hell (only had one kill there so far, <3 Odin) you have to use magic and GFs

That depends what level you are i suppose. I have level 99 characters so i can just use attack on them guys aswell.

Well Squall is 40, Irvine is 30 and Zell is about 25, damn character switching.

At 6/1/08 12:16 PM, EvilJesus wrote: Well Squall is 40, Irvine is 30 and Zell is about 25, damn character switching.

At those levels i doubt you´ll kill any of those enemies unless, like you said, Odin pops out and helps you ;)

At 6/1/08 09:47 AM, Bahamut wrote:

Cactuars are awesome, but their extremely high evasion can be a pain at times. I can't remember the first time I saw a Cactuar. I think it was on FFVII, but eh, hard to recall now. They didn't have a big role on that game like they did on FFX.

I remember them mostly from VIII. I think I foolishly tried to fight them for ages in the hopes of getting some serious points from killing them. Hardly did of course.

At 6/1/08 12:27 PM, Gagsy wrote: I remember them mostly from VIII. I think I foolishly tried to fight them for ages in the hopes of getting some serious points from killing them. Hardly did of course.

They did give you alot of AP in FFVII if i remember right.

Those elixer pots were awesome too, but elixers are good items to waste for Ap or EXP.

At 6/1/08 12:55 PM, Life-Stream wrote:

At 6/1/08 12:27 PM, Gagsy wrote: I remember them mostly from VIII. I think I foolishly tried to fight them for ages in the hopes of getting some serious points from killing them. Hardly did of course.

They did give you alot of AP in FFVII if i remember right.

Those elixer pots were awesome too, but elixers are good items to waste for Ap or EXP.

They gave you 20 AP in FFVIII so making the Gfs learn abilities is pretty damn easy!

At 6/1/08 12:27 PM, Gagsy wrote: I remember them mostly from VIII. I think I foolishly tried to fight them for ages in the hopes of getting some serious points from killing them. Hardly did of course.

All you needed to do was give Squall first strike capability.

Since he had 255% hit rate, if he attacked a Cactaur, the Cactaur died.

The other characters are less successful until you get Selphie's ultimate weapon, which also gives her 255% hit rate.

I have played Final Fantasay X- and Final Fantasy X-2 so may I please join? Well I guess I already have because everyone is assuming that, once they have posted a reply, then they are already in it. So I guess I'm in it.

At 6/1/08 10:47 AM, Life-Stream wrote:

At 6/1/08 09:47 AM, Bahamut wrote: Cactuars are awesome, but their extremely high evasion can be a pain at times. I can't remember the first time I saw a Cactuar. I think it was on FFVII, but eh, hard to recall now. They didn't have a big role on that game like they did on FFX.

Yeah, they´re quite hard to hit, but when you finally do get them, they die in one hit luckily.

Very true. Having high evasion does work against Cactuars. :)

I remember them in FFVII, they were very rare, but they gave you huge amounts of AP.

I can't remember how much one gives you now.

At 6/1/08 12:27 PM, Gagsy wrote: I remember them mostly from VIII. I think I foolishly tried to fight them for ages in the hopes of getting some serious points from killing them. Hardly did of course.

Again, lack of memory about their rewards. However, I cannot forget the Jumbo Cactuar! :D

At 6/1/08 12:55 PM, Life-Stream wrote: Those elixer pots were awesome too, but elixers are good items to waste for Ap or EXP.

Haha, yes. They were indeed awesome. I think if you killed three in one battle, you'd get 2400 AP and EXP...Another thing I've forgotten.

At 6/2/08 04:31 PM, Kuro wrote: The other characters are less successful until you get Selphie's ultimate weapon, which also gives her 255% hit rate.

I never ever used Selphie in my team unless I had to.

At 6/3/08 06:37 AM, DestroyedPencil wrote: So I guess I'm in it.

Yes...

At 6/3/08 03:17 PM, Bahamut wrote: Haha, yes. They were indeed awesome. I think if you killed three in one battle, you'd get 2400 AP and EXP...Another thing I've forgotten.

Combine that with a Triple AP weapon and you have mastered Materia in no time!

I never ever used Selphie in my team unless I had to.

Selphie was ok. I just didn´t like her limit break at all >:( I always try to keep my people on similar levels though. I wouldn´t like to have 3 characters level 99 and the rest level 30.

At 6/3/08 03:38 PM, Life-Stream wrote:

At 6/3/08 03:17 PM, Bahamut wrote: Haha, yes. They were indeed awesome. I think if you killed three in one battle, you'd get 2400 AP and EXP...Another thing I've forgotten.

Combine that with a Triple AP weapon and you have mastered Materia in no time!

I never ever used Selphie in my team unless I had to.

Selphie was ok. I just didn´t like her limit break at all >:( I always try to keep my people on similar levels though. I wouldn´t like to have 3 characters level 99 and the rest level 30.

Then you wouldn't like the state of my memory card;
Squall Lv40
Zell Lv 25
Qustis or whatever her name is Lv 25
Irvine Lv 30
And last and least, Selphie Lv 7

At 6/3/08 03:42 PM, EvilJesus wrote: Then you wouldn't like the state of my memory card;
Squall Lv40
Zell Lv 25
Qustis or whatever her name is Lv 25
Irvine Lv 30
And last and least, Selphie Lv 7

lol. Why did no one like Selphie? Well, to be honest, i didn´t really like to use her alot, her, Irvine and quistis were the worst 3 in my opinion, but i still wanted to use them so they were all pretty even with levels.