Forum Topic: V for vendetta Is full of crap.

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The movie assumes you will take V's side, because he is fighting the good fight against the evil facist government. But, that government is portrayed as being run by slobbering, obese, homophobic kiddie-fiddlers. How the hell is the audience supposed to hate the facist state, when it's so completely un-believeable? The Wachowski brothers, when the wrote the script for this movie, mush have belived we are all morons who would prefer flashy explosions and knife-fights to investigation of real totalitarianism: control and alteration of language, education and history. Problem is, theres a lot of retards who will take this movie seriously.

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Oh wow


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Its all a conspiracy! Theyve lied to Us Guys! Theyve lied to us!

Whatever happened to just going to see a movie and enjoy doing it? Whats with all the angst lately?

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Because, I noticed a lot of left-wing movie reviewers are calling this shit an "important piece of modern cinema".

Everyone else bother conservitave and centrist agrees with my main point: This movie bills itself as an intellectual goldmine, but really builds philisophical diraeah out of lego.

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your an idiot, you know. "v for vendetta" was a comic. the story was already made. they didnt right the comic. they just directed it.


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just because it was based off a comic dosn't make it any less retarded. Also, the comics author has since disowned his creation, which says a lot about the source material.

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At 3/23/06 03:17 AM, Shin-Tenshu wrote: your an idiot, you know. "v for vendetta" was a comic. the story was already made. they didnt right the comic. they just directed it.

You're. Write. Commas. Capital letters. Parallel sentence structure.

Anyway, just because something existed beforehand does not mean it wasn't adapted when the directors-in this case, the Wachowski brothers-decided to take it to the big screen. It happens almost every time.


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Fascism is full of shit as well. It thinks everyone should be happy to serve the state and we should all conform to make the state stronger. I'm sorry but individuality is one of the only good things the human race has. Having it destroyed by governments is not a nice thing.


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Oh, also, the comic is a political commentary on 1980'S BRITIAN, and yet the movie aptation makes reference to abu ghraib, bird-flu, coalition of the willing etc...

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At 3/23/06 03:10 AM, Bantooma wrote: that government is portrayed as being run by slobbering, obese, homophobic kiddie-fiddlers.

The NRA is the goverment?


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Also one of the reasons that V for vendetta got a band now - while the movie still was shooting - was that they actually making a subway-scene in London around the time terrorist attacked a couple of subways in London as well.

A fun fact: the story has already been written in the begin of the '90. Even before the Matrix was written - while the Matrix and V for vendetta has been written by the same brothers.
I haven't seen V for vendetta yet; but seeing the trailer/images/etc it looks promosing. Although the story is in some ways similiar to the Matrix it's still nice. But we'll see what it brings. :)

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At 3/23/06 03:11 AM, WutWut wrote: Oh wow

Ill second that

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At 3/23/06 03:10 AM, Bantooma wrote: The Wachowski brothers, when the wrote the script for this movie, mush have belived we are all morons who would prefer flashy explosions and knife-fights to investigation of real totalitarianism

You do know that V for Vendetta is based on the graphic novel series V for Vendetta.
And you do know that the explosions are based on Guy Fawkes and the Gunpowder Plot to kill the Protestant King James the 1st, RIGHT?

Fucking dumbass.

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This is why you look at the reviews at imdb rather than the newspaper

Newspaper reviewers tend to have a shit opinion

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Who cares, its a movie based on a comic you dork.


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Look, you just said earlier that all Liberalists think it is an important piece of cinema and all centerists and conservative says what you are saying... since when did you have the right to speak for every non-liberalist? The point is you don't. You can probably speak for your conservative party, but not every one that is not a liberal. I like to think of myself as a centerist and this is the way I see things. I agree that liberalists think this is the best movie ever, conservatives think it is the worst movie ever because it supports terrorism, and I elieve most centeralists just like the movie for what it is... just a movie! You think other people are gonna get too serious about this? Go read aloud what you are typing and record it, then play it back and really listen to what you are saying.

In other words shut up you facist basterd

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At 3/23/06 03:11 AM, WutWut wrote: Oh wow

Quit spamming.

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I hate the Walakcaoachoiskaei brothers. The Matrix sucked.

No big surprise to me that people would think Vendetta is a full-of-shit movie.


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At 3/23/06 03:17 AM, Shin-Tenshu wrote: your an idiot, you know. "v for vendetta" was a comic. the story was already made. they didnt right the comic. they just directed it.

are you retarded? Only one films every been made like that - sin city.
And oh yeah they didnt direct it, James McTeigue did.
The Wachowski brothers wrote and produced it. When your ADAPTING, (key word here being ADAPTATION: n 1: a written work (as a novel) that has been recast in a new form; "the play is an adaptation of a short novel" [syn: version]) something, it tends to change, because in the end the holders of the pen on the rewrite, will put there own thoughts and ideas into the film, its called auteurism. And V, even though slightly flawed, is auteurist to the Wachowski's work in the themes, which have run through all there films as far back as Bound. Anyway they adapted it, and rewrote it for a post modern and post 911 society. (FYI if you dont know anything about post modernism, then you should stfu, because you dont have the right to review a film, because you dont know shit) I lost my train of thought... Ah yeah, it was BASED ON THE COMIC BOOK, its not a literal translation. So your comment was basically complitly invalid and retard, thankyou.


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i wanna e it


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At 3/23/06 03:13 AM, Minion777 wrote: Its all a conspiracy! Theyve lied to Us Guys! Theyve lied to us!

Whatever happened to just going to see a movie and enjoy doing it? Whats with all the angst lately?

They're probably just offended by the whole consept of V. Which makes it great >:D

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At 3/23/06 06:51 AM, pet_rock wrote: i wanna e it

Yes, we all want to e it.


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At 3/23/06 03:10 AM, Bantooma wrote: Problem is, theres a lot of retards who will take this movie seriously.

You seem to be taking it pretty seriously.


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yeah, when your done, im gunna go on about R for Rugrats, *stupid angelica*


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At 3/23/06 08:28 AM, ExtremeFudgeMaster wrote:
At 3/23/06 03:10 AM, Bantooma wrote: Problem is, theres a lot of retards who will take this movie seriously.
You seem to be taking it pretty seriously.

Seconded.


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At 3/23/06 06:34 AM, Shrapnel wrote: I hate the Walakcaoachoiskaei brothers. The Matrix sucked.

Didn't one of them have a sex change? The first one was good but only beacuse they stole the script ("The Third Eye").

As for V, I still haven't seen it and now I won't because all this back-and-forth on the net has fouled my perception. Being a dedicated centrist, I'm not really bothered if it's overly left-leaning because I'll still recognize it as such. I would suggest however that anyone criticizing it as such should fucking get over it. Facism and Totalitarianism prop up the right end of the political spectrum, so any movie dealing with countering those systems is going to HAVE to swing way out to the left just to seem even remotely plausable. Any references to Abu Ghrab and other current problems is only there to intice a response anyway. Next time leave the worm on the hook.


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Wow a movie is full of shit, who would have thought a fictional movie would have elements of fiction in it. I saw the movie just yesterday and I actually thought that it was quite good, the action scenes were well corigraphed and the plot was interesting. The movie took the issues we are dealing with now or rather the issues from when the graphic novel was written, like terrorism, pointless war and governments using fear to turn people into caddle and then took it to the extreme in a rendition of what might happen if the world goes along the current path it is on. I thought that it was an amazing action movie that made you think just a little bit harder then say Die Hard.


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I don't think they are forcing the viewers to take V's side. From what I saw in a trailer, the movie leaves room for questioning V's motives. One of the central themes is how far you can go to fight against a totalitarian government. The viewer can decide whether V is a freedom fighter, a terrorist or something between the two.


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At 3/23/06 03:13 AM, Minion777 wrote: Its all a conspiracy! Theyve lied to Us Guys! Theyve lied to us!

Whatever happened to just going to see a movie and enjoy doing it? Whats with all the angst lately?

i know, whenever a new movie like this comes out the conspiracy nuts start having a fucking field day "0GM! IT5 R3L4TING T0 9/11 AND ITS ALL ABOUT HITLER AND NAZIISM AND ....." i'll spare you from the rest but really,people neeed to calm down

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i thought it was a great film all round

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