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Who to kill? 2006-03-22 21:39:37 Reply

If forced to decide between murder of all those who are severely mentally disabled or those of X race, what choice would you make? (Yes, there's a reason for asking. After a couple posts, you'll see.)

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Response to Who to kill? 2006-03-22 21:41:15 Reply

Define "race"

Could I pick some sort of racially unique person or something?

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Response to Who to kill? 2006-03-22 21:41:39 Reply

East Islanders, or some other tiny race that would result in the least deaths.

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Response to Who to kill? 2006-03-22 21:42:49 Reply

At 3/22/06 09:39 PM, GSgt_Liberal wrote: If forced to decide between murder of all those who are severely mentally disabled or those of X race, what choice would you make? (Yes, there's a reason for asking. After a couple posts, you'll see.)

Speaking purely in terms of having effective people in the world, murder all of the severely mentally disabled. It would be far more efficient to kill off the people who can not do much to improve the world, and leave perfectly normal people who can.

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Response to Who to kill? 2006-03-22 22:18:35 Reply

Race X. One good thing about the mentally retarded is that they teach us a little something I like to call tolerance. Having the mentally retarded in this world allows us to view the world from a person without much intelligence. This makes us able to veiw the world through a simplistic POV. After all, the smarter you are, the more unique ideas you come up with. The peoples of Race X would offer perspective from a different culture. See, wipe out this race, and people will think into it more. All the dead races that we claim to have done great things... were... well... Dead. Looking at the crap the incans made up for astronimy from our point of view blurs the line rather well, creating a more mixed perspective.

As allways, I am tired so my ideals will probably be shot down in five minutes.

And, I know I have por orginaization.
Deal with it you silly emo.

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Response to Who to kill? 2006-03-22 22:27:06 Reply

At 3/22/06 10:18 PM, TheTrueMrJack wrote: Race X. One good thing about the mentally retarded is that they teach us a little something I like to call tolerance.

And a minority can't? If you're prejudiced against a minority, you can learn tolerance just as easily.

The mentally retarded would be better off killed than an entire race. Of course, normally, I would say that no genocide should be committed, but if pressed between the two, killing those who are less productive than those who aren't would have to be fueled by some form of prejudice, or logic that I'm completely missing here.

I can't imagine any just reasoning that would lead to the death of a race over the mentally ill...


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Response to Who to kill? 2006-03-22 22:36:19 Reply

At 3/22/06 10:27 PM, Captn_r wrote:
At 3/22/06 10:18 PM, TheTrueMrJack wrote: Race X. One good thing about the mentally retarded is that they teach us a little something I like to call tolerance.
And a minority can't? If you're prejudiced against a minority, you can learn tolerance just as easily.

But the mentally ill leads to a new state of mind, not just a new point of veiw.

Also, wouldn't it be possible that some people in that race are mentally retarded? Maybe that race has a higher defect rate then the rest of the world.

(Note: I am of mixed decent, white and black, and thus, do not think this is because I have some personal vendetta against anouther race. I know racism first hand, and dispise it.)

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Response to Who to kill? 2006-03-22 22:38:47 Reply

Sorry for the double pos,t but remeber: Artists are not often recognized until their death; the same may be true about the mentally retarded or Race X. We would have to kill them both in order to fully see the efects of either.

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Response to Who to kill? 2006-03-22 22:45:02 Reply

THe mentally retarded. Not that i'd want to do either, but If I have to make the choice the retarded would go, since they are less productive and cost more money. Just curious, could you also tell us what form of genocide this is in hypothetically? WOuld it just be lethal injection while they're alseep, or holocaust style?

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Response to Who to kill? 2006-03-23 00:09:52 Reply

Define seriously mentally disabled. Then define race. As stands, your question is too vague to answer honestly.

"Whichever would result in less suffering."


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Response to Who to kill? 2006-03-23 00:12:34 Reply

If I'm to make such a grave decision, I'd first have to know at least some details as to the reason why I'm making said decision. Clearly, genocide should not be taken lightly.

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Response to Who to kill? 2006-03-23 21:53:16 Reply

You people keep saying the mentaly retarded but you fail to relize tha they are born with this defect randomly so the genocide of them would continue over the course of many years but the destruction of a race or country could happen in a single night the city of carthage for example.

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Response to Who to kill? 2006-03-23 22:04:32 Reply

if i had to make a choice between those to i would kill my self

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Response to Who to kill? 2006-03-23 22:05:43 Reply

Lawyers.

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Response to Who to kill? 2006-03-23 22:14:19 Reply

At 3/22/06 09:39 PM, GSgt_Liberal wrote: If forced to decide between murder of all those who are severely mentally disabled or those of X race, what choice would you make? (Yes, there's a reason for asking. After a couple posts, you'll see.)

Just for seeing your point, lets go with killing everyone who is severely mentally disabled.

Now whats the point exactly?

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Response to Who to kill? 2006-03-23 22:22:07 Reply

At 3/23/06 10:05 PM, TheloniousMONK wrote: Lawyers.

Crap. There go my parents. =(

I would chose neither, because all races are equal. Race is also pretty much a manmade thing to distinguish one another, and to probably give one race superiority or another back in the old days. I also wouldn't want to kill all the mentally challenged people because it's not their fault they're like that.

But if I had to choose, I'd say the mentally challenged people, because they can't really do much to help the world.

Interested to see point here.

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Response to Who to kill? 2006-03-24 01:04:05 Reply

At 3/22/06 10:36 PM, TheTrueMrJack wrote: But the mentally ill leads to a new state of mind, not just a new point of veiw.

Not necessarily. If one were prejudiced into believing in racial inferiority the same way most people consider extremely mentally deficient people, the two would be flawless parallels. So your point is nullified as making no difference which one of the two options is killed off.

Also, wouldn't it be possible that some people in that race are mentally retarded? Maybe that race has a higher defect rate then the rest of the world.

If you admit it's better to admit people with defects than those who aren't necessarily defected, then logically, it would be reasonable to complete your logic and decide on eliminating the severely mentally ill (or however he put it) directly.

(Note: I am of mixed decent, white and black, and thus, do not think this is because I have some personal vendetta against anouther race. I know racism first hand, and dispise it.)

I believe that there are alternative motivations to support your thesis over racial hatred, and I don't mean to accuse you of being racist.


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Response to Who to kill? 2006-03-24 01:40:22 Reply

At 3/23/06 10:04 PM, mjairlax wrote: if i had to make a choice between those to i would kill my self

That would be rather unselfish of you (if in killing yourself it eliminates the problem).

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Response to Who to kill? 2006-03-24 03:13:19 Reply

At 3/23/06 10:05 PM, TheloniousMONK wrote: Lawyers.

True! The only group that can be killed, knowing that the impact to the world can not be bad. And they deserve it anyway!

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Response to Who to kill? 2006-03-24 03:17:01 Reply

how about everyone......if i could i would kill everyone :)

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Response to Who to kill? 2006-03-24 04:58:32 Reply

People who are severely mentally disabled would continue to be born. Thus, meaning an unending genocide. However, eliminating an entire race all depends on what you consider as "race".

At 3/23/06 10:04 PM, mjairlax wrote: if i had to make a choice between those to i would kill my self

I'd most likely do that too. It may not solve the problem, but at least I'm not the one who decided to wipe out an entire group of people across the world.


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Response to Who to kill? 2006-03-24 05:15:55 Reply

Right now I"m with skunk. Define race and define mental disorder.

How severe are you talking about because whats severe to me may not be severe to you. And as far as race goes does this also go into crossbreeding between two races, just purely color, or more deeply into their ethnicity even father than skin color.

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Response to Who to kill? 2006-03-24 06:35:16 Reply

Can we kill both? Say the East Indians so I don't have to smell curry in the hallways of apartments. Kill them and the retards. But can we also kill all the cripples too? I'm fucking sick them getting the good parking just because they limp around.