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At 3/22/06 06:36 PM, Hammi wrote:

But i will get some more info about the investigation if something new comes up.

the man said that this was old news, so by now there HAS been a follow up. go look for it.

At 3/22/06 06:36 PM, Hammi wrote:

At 3/21/06 08:11 PM, Imperator wrote:

Old news huh? Thats all you can think of? Im trying to state a point here, about lifes being taken away in cruelty. Youre not heartless are you? If you dont give a rats ass about what im trying to give impression of, what is your side of the tragedy? You dont give a rats ass about civilians in Iraq being murdered by marines, because its only "old news"? Does it mean that we should stop caring about it? At least state your thoughts about this meaningless bloodshed!

But i will get some more info about the investigation if something new comes up.

You do realize the marines are inoccent until proven guilty. That is one of the basic principles that our country is founded upon. We don't give the marines the benifit of the doubt just because they're marines; we give it to them because a person is inoccent until proven guilty. As of yet it hasn't been proven that the Marines murdered anybody, much less a court ruling, so unless you can find any follow up news upon teh actual investigation, everything you say has no stading what so ever.

Im sure the marines felt justified in what they did. Im sure they will have no problems sleeping at night.

At 3/23/06 01:02 AM, JoS wrote: Im sure the marines felt justified in what they did. Im sure they will have no problems sleeping at night.

That's a relief.

At 3/23/06 01:02 AM, JoS wrote: Im sure the marines felt justified in what they did. Im sure they will have no problems sleeping at night.

Uh uh. Do you realize how many soldiers are coming back from war these days suffering from mental illnesses? Post Traumatic Stress. Even soldiers who only see occasional fighting risk developing it, and it can potentially be very debilitating for a person's mental health.

If I accidentally shot and killed a person, I have no doubt it would haunt me for the rest of my life. These marines (If the account is true,) would be no exception.

At 3/23/06 01:05 AM, BFG_Nine-Thousand wrote: If I accidentally shot and killed a person, I have no doubt it would haunt me for the rest of my life. These marines (If the account is true,) would be no exception.

Accidently shooting fifteen people happen much where you live? If the marines did indeed kill these people, which isn't particularly surprising, then it wasn't an accident. Especially suspicious is that there was a coverup that followed. Or did they accidently overlook the bullet holes and accidently blame the ied?

I can't really offer a rational explanation. I wasn't there. But the idea that in this day and age, we could knowingly muder civilians... I refuse to believe that. Our soldiers are supposed to be trained to a higher standard.

when those solders get back to america, they had best be locked up for life or exicuted. actually, they should just be exicuted by gunfire in iraq. soldiers like that should be killed to be a symbol saying "if you dont follow orders, you will be killed"

thus makeing a stronger more efficient military. troops in the military dont have rights, they are not civilians. they give up their rights too serve the country. and they as hell will die for their country to be a symbol.

they went in rage, that is no excuse. so thus they must DIE.

Okay, this isnt any update from the investigation of the death of 15 civilians, presumed to be done by marines. BUT, this is another source(ABC News), confirming the tragedy, plus, a video clip of the crime scene where the marines stormed and killed the families. Its been videotaped by an Iraqi student journalist. Comments from eyewitnesses and other closer relatives of the victims. This confirms that the marines were behind the massacre, even though furher investigation is in progress. Check it out:
http://abcnews.go.co..d=1743981&page=1

Some of you are telling me that it isnt proved that the marines are guilty. But after my research, i doubt that they were ever innocent. Then they cover it up, making excuses when they make the reports. Now that its becoming more clear, theyve finally started an investigation. The marines punishment? That they get suspended, have to serve their time in jail for years, plus that they have to live with what they did against the civilians. I know that you feel like sticking to the ideal of the marines and protecting them because theyre Americans, but you need to do some research yourself so that youre aware of whats really going on, instead of ignorantly blaming on insurgents. Its hard to blame on your own people, but this information has to be uncovered, in order to bring equal justice. I mean, im a muslim man, but that doesnt mean that i support al-Qaida and those stupidass extreme bitches. I criticize them, on full scale, because i know that they will even betray their own religion, just to spread their radical view of Islam. Punkass dickheads are only misusing our religion just to justify their actions, in the name of Allah. Have they even read the holy Quran? Such actions are out of question according to our holy book. I criticize the Iraqi criminals who take hostages all the time, and those who blows up a crowd in the middle of Baghdad. You see? I hate them ppl! I wish they were all under arrest. But this is not to be taken out on the civilians, which repeatedly happens, where they imprison innocent ppl almost everyday.

Heres another link, im just gonna put it out.
Military probes killing of Iraqi family
http://abcnews.go.co..wireStory?id=1750299

At 3/23/06 01:19 AM, BFG_Nine-Thousand wrote: I can't really offer a rational explanation. I wasn't there. But the idea that in this day and age, we could knowingly muder civilians... I refuse to believe that. Our soldiers are supposed to be trained to a higher standard.

You do realize that Iraq is a warzone, right? Our soldiers are a bunch of twenty-year-olds. They're fucking human.

Old news huh? Thats all you can think of? Im trying to state a point here, about lifes being taken away in cruelty. Youre not heartless are you? If you dont give a rats ass about what im trying to give impression of, what is your side of the tragedy? You dont give a rats ass about civilians in Iraq being murdered by marines, because its only "old news"? Does it mean that we should stop caring about it? At least state your thoughts about this meaningless bloodshed!

There's still massive death and there was a little thing called a genocide in Rwanda.......
You must not care because you didn't bring it up......therefore, you are a complete asshole and despot who doesn't care about human life. You sir are no better than Hitler......a little far-fetched? Yeah, I thought so too, but you assumed just as much from the one pity statement I made.......

Yeah, that's all I can think of, I don't go around bringing up old WWII incidents where people went a litle nuts and did some things they weren't supposed to.....it's under investigation, what more do you want?

What's my impression of the tragedy and bloodshed?
First, it's a tragedy. It happens a LOT. Ain't no one here crying for the 800,000 dead in Rwanda, does that mean these 15 Iraqis are more important? It would seem so from your post........

Don't make stupid generalizations and assumptions about what I'm thinking next time.......

Some of you are telling me that it isnt proved that the marines are guilty. But after my research, i doubt that they were ever innocent.

Well SHIT! Get that over to the Pentagon PRONTO mister!!!!
I mean, there's only highly trained specialists to investigate these matters, but Christ, you've solved the case already!!!

Can you also please tell us where the insurgents are and how to defeat them, as well as any other marvellous insights you may have on this war? They'd be really usefull.....maybe we should just put you in charge of the investigation then, or promote you to Major General so you can win the war?

At 3/23/06 04:27 AM, Hammi wrote: Some of you are telling me that it isnt proved that the marines are guilty. But after my research, i doubt that they were ever innocent.

ZOMG! You think they're guilty? Wait a second. You don't have all the facts. But the Pentagon does.

I know that you feel like sticking to the ideal of the marines and protecting them because theyre Americans, but you need to do some research yourself so that youre aware of whats really going on, instead of ignorantly blaming on insurgents.

We DO know what's going on. You can't state that we don't without proof.

At 3/22/06 06:13 PM, Hammi wrote:

I believe in that they can solve it.

Are you serious?

There was hope, until they somehow blew it. The destruction of a holy place triggered the hate again, following with numerous bomb blasts.

Extremists/insurgents.

But i doubt greatly that its by coincidence. Why would they turn against each others in times like this? I sense an involvement by the CIA, with the US army there as well. Why? So they can crush any resistance that would oppose them.

That, my dear friends, is what we call a conspiracy theory. These Iraqi insurgents are criminals and extremists. They are destroying Iraq, not the United States. We want to fix it and LEAVE. These insurgents are going to screw it up and then make a totalitarian islamic state.

By messing up the peace ties between the Sunnies and the Shiites, they would break up the resistance movement from their infratructure, by breaking up their solidarity. You may feel hard to live with it, but the CIA loves to play dirty tricks on those who wont obey. The US army dont give a fuck about the conflict escalating between the Sunnies and the Shiites, just as long as they can split them up so they can take it out on each others instead. Its all a diversion. Nasty, but reality.

No, not reality. You're not thinking logically. Have you been watching too much Al-Jazeera (sp?) lately?

At 3/23/06 03:52 PM, GSgt_Liberal wrote: No, not reality. You're not thinking logically. Have you been watching too much Al-Jazeera (sp?) lately?

Do you even know what al-Jazeera is?

Yes, and Al-Jazeera's arabic edition, at the very least, is virulently anti-American.

At 3/23/06 07:27 PM, GSgt_Liberal wrote: Yes, and Al-Jazeera's arabic edition, at the very least, is virulently anti-American.

al-Jazeera is a secular, westernized cable conglomerate based out of Qatar. Calling them "anti-American" is empty rhetoric. That means jack shit.

al-Jazeera is a secular, westernized cable conglomerate based out of Qatar. Calling them "anti-American" is empty rhetoric. That means jack shit.

yeah they are unbiased. Totally unbiased... You stupid cunt. Pretending your smart only made you look like brain dead faggot.

At 3/22/06 05:15 PM, red_skunk wrote:
The BBC is a better news outlet than anything we have in America. You people are really ignorant.

Truth

In general, yes, that's true. Except for the NY Times and the Economist (which are a newspaper and magazine respectively.)

At 3/24/06 06:45 AM, RegurgitateDAbortioN wrote:

al-Jazeera is a secular, westernized cable conglomerate based out of Qatar. Calling them "anti-American" is empty rhetoric. That means jack shit.

yeah they are unbiased. Totally unbiased... You stupid cunt.

Sure they're unbiased. Unbiased towards the US. Do you think being biased towards the US would get them better ratings and advertising revenue? They're reporting what happens to an Arab audience. Sure they over report all the stuff against the US invasion, but that's what their audience expects. The freedom to report what you guys in the States are surprisingly not free to show.
Moreover, that's why they have lots of US subscribers. Those subscribers are tired of totally biased US news streams, and feel the need to balance it with a little al-Jazeera - see what the Arabs are watching. Get perspective from the other side. Being biased doesn't give you the right to make facts fit your agenda by simply inventing stuff, but repeat screenings of patriotic stuff or showing victims of war is exactly what US news broadcasters also do on a regular basis. This slaughter happened, and whether it was by stolen US weapons used to fake a massacre, or actual US troops going gun-crazy on some unarmed families, then it needs to be reported, and as Imperator said, the facts need to be investigated first - and hopefully, then and only then, truth can come out.

Pretending your smart only made you look like brain dead faggot.

(haha.. perfect example of a self-referencing statement)

At 3/22/06 07:29 AM, Nylo wrote: BBC is the polar Fox news.

hmm. could you have been any more cryptic?

i doubt it