US marines wipe out entire families

[Hammi]

http://news.bbc.co.u..dle_east/4827424.stm

US military investigators have flown to Iraq to study reports that marines shot dead at least 15 civilians, including seven women and three children.

Residents in Haditha, in the western province of Anbar, say the marines went on the rampage after one of their number was killed in a roadside blast and another two were injured. They say the soldiers began shooting dead the inhabitants of nearby homes and others from the area. "Their bodies were riddled with bullets," he said. "There was evidence there had been gunfire inside their homes, there were blood spatters inside their homes." Iraqi police said five children and four women were among those shot dead by US soldiers in a house near the town of Balad last Wednesday.

Now wat does those bastards think they r huh? Fuckin marines storm Iraqi homes n execute them. Every child, women n men. Children aged 4, one of them only 7 months old. I kno how it feels like when some of ur comrades get killed in blasts, but WTF MAN?? Wat fuckin right gives them 2 storm the nearest homes n kill every Iraqi u c?? They pumped lil childrens bodies wit bullets, while their parents were trying 2 shield them, as well as they ended up dead anyway, all of them. Fuckin 15 cicilian lifes taken away, just like that. O'boy!! Look at u now, that makes u a fucking hero, u deserve a medal!!

A fuckin massacre, done wit cold blood. The marines mind gone 2 hell, taking it out on innocent Iraqi ppl. Now theyre trying 2 cover it up by saying that they were killed in action between the marines n rebels. BULLSHIT! Theres no excuse 4 this shit. This is so sad, it just pisses me off!! Get them bitches out of Iraq! Better off witout them. The Iraqi ppl can take care of things themselves. No US interferrences after that.

[Politics]

Things like this happen all the time, the military just censors it. Every war has casualties, including children. It's not new.

Of-course, that doesn't excuse what they did. But we can all agree that killing children - especially innocent children - is wrong. Not too much debate there.

[TheShrike]

From the same article:
"there is not enough evidence to show US soldiers deliberately targeted the civilians."

And NCIS is investigating the case. If they went on a rampage, then they'll be dealt with accordingly.

Sounds like you're jumping to conclusions.

Oh, btw...
Learn how to type out full words. Using 'U' for 'you', and '2' for 'to' makes you look like a goddamn retard.

[Imperator]

Old news anyways. If you find a link with an updated summary of the investigation, instead of the initial reaction, maybe I'll give a rat's ass what you (or is it "u"?) think......

[HighlyIllogical]

At 3/21/06 07:37 PM, Hammi wrote: http://news.bbc.co.u..dle_east/4827424.stm

Is there another source to cite?

Now wat does those bastards think they r huh? Fuckin marines storm Iraqi homes n execute them. Fuckin 15 cicilian lifes taken away, just like that. O'boy!! Look at u now, that makes u a fucking hero, u deserve a medal!!

These Marines are acting, most likely, in a prudent fashion. I wouldn't doubt that this massacre was, in part, committed by insurgents or that these children and women were being used as human shields. And by "cicilian," are you referring to someone from Sicily? Or do you mean "civillian," as in noncombatant?

A fuckin massacre, done wit cold blood. The marines mind gone 2 hell, taking it out on innocent Iraqi ppl. Now theyre trying 2 cover it up by saying that they were killed in action between the marines n rebels. BULLSHIT!

No. I disagree. I trust these Marines.

This is so sad, it just pisses me off!! Get them bitches out of Iraq! Better off witout them. The Iraqi ppl can take care of things themselves.

No, the Iraqis CANNOT take "care of things" themselves. The only reason why civil war hasn't broken out completely is because of the steadying influence of American (and allied) forces.

Pardon me, but would you mind posting clearly. Thanks.

[Papa-Smuff]

At 3/21/06 08:30 PM, GSgt_Liberal wrote:

At 3/21/06 07:37 PM, Hammi wrote: http://news.bbc.co.u..dle_east/4827424.stm

Is there another source to cite?

Is that a bad source or something? The only problem I see with it is that apparently it is old.

As for the issue at hand, I dont really see the problem with this. Well I mean it is bad that the soldiers killed those civilians but it is being investigated and Im sure that they will be dealt with accordingly. Im sure this kind of thing has happened in basicly all wars but the soldiers that commit these acts should be punished and Im sure they will be.

[BFG-Nine-Thousand]

The only instance I can think of where American soldiers targetted civilians occured way back in Vietnam, and it was because their Platoon Leader was fucked up, not because the top brass had issued some death warrant.

Stuff like this happens. Nobody likes it when a civilian gets caught in the line of fire, but it still happens. Think about the soldiers, man. They'd have to go through the rest of their lives knowing that they ended an innocent life.

[Hammi]

At 3/21/06 07:53 PM, TheShrike wrote: From the same article:
"there is not enough evidence to show US soldiers deliberately targeted the civilians."

And NCIS is investigating the case. If they went on a rampage, then they'll be dealt with accordingly.

Sounds like you're jumping to conclusions.

Oh, btw...
Learn how to type out full words. Using 'U' for 'you', and '2' for 'to' makes you look like a goddamn retard.

Of course im jumping to conclusions! Im making a point here, about having the marines in Iraq, where people have to suffer every day under this ass-wrecking oppression. They say that theyve comed to bring justice and peace to the country... I say bullshit. There was peace under Saddam, rather than now. There were never any threat from him. Bushass has busted Pandoras box. Now look how awful things evolve down there. Killing spree! Collateral damage! The marines are only kids, equipped with weapons to kill. Recruited at 18, how the fuck theyre supposed to know how to deal with measures. They got military and diplomatic training, but do you really think that they give any fuck about it? Nope. They do what they want to, how they want to. If one of them gets killed, they get psycho and act worse than any high sentenced criminal in the USA. Their minds are fucked up, big time. Theyve brought nothing but misory. Soon they will leave the country, when everythings torn apart and Iraq will have a sickass debt landed on their heads, because of all the money Bush has spended on the war. They give an itsy bitsy help, then they bill them. Is that the way to go against a torn apart country?

Oh btw, ive written full words just for you. Satisfied? Be glad because if i have to write like this on NG, then ill stay like this.

[A-Carrot-By-Dr-Riot]

At 3/22/06 06:56 AM, Hammi wrote: Oh btw, ive written full words just for you. Satisfied? Be glad because if i have to write like this on NG, then ill stay like this.

We all really appreciate the effort. Just think, many people have a hard time taking President Bush seriously because he often misuses the English language, similarly, on the internet, it is difficult to take a person who makes no effort to spell words correctly seriously.

[Nylo]

At 3/21/06 08:38 PM, Papa_Smuff wrote:

Is there another source to cite?

Is that a bad source or something? The only problem I see with it is that apparently it is old.

The BBC ran a poll that ranked the most dangerous countries on the planet. Among those the United States ranked higher than Iran and Syria.

When it comes to international diplomacy and the United States, BBC is the polar Fox news.

[bcdemon]

I'll have to agree with others on this issue, the americans kill innocent civis all the time. This is nothing new. And the investigation, well it will be found that the US soldiers were either defending themselves or it was the insurgents who killed the innocents.

[punisher19848]

At 3/22/06 06:56 AM, Hammi wrote:

Of course im jumping to conclusions! Im making a point here, about having the marines in Iraq, where people have to suffer every day under this ass-wrecking oppression.

Right there, you just lost your credibility. When anyone jumps to a conclusion simply for the sake of illustrating a point (which may or may not be ture), you give away that your statements are biased beyond all reason. No one trusts people with that much bias.

[Papa-Smuff]

At 3/22/06 07:29 AM, Nylo wrote: The BBC ran a poll that ranked the most dangerous countries on the planet. Among those the United States ranked higher than Iran and Syria.

When it comes to international diplomacy and the United States, BBC is the polar Fox news.

Really wow I didnt know that. Do you have a link to the poll? I want to see that.

[SouthAsian]

Us marines have often been defended their actions simply because they are american.

What can you say to the worlds most powerful country who can do and say just about whatever they want?

they make their own rules they dont even listen to the UN.only when they want to get their way do they consult the UN.

[HighlyIllogical]

At 3/22/06 07:29 AM, Nylo wrote:

The BBC ran a poll that ranked the most dangerous countries on the planet. Among those the United States ranked higher than Iran and Syria.

Yeah, I've heard this as well. And I'm inclined to believe that this poll exists.

[HighlyIllogical]

At 3/21/06 08:45 PM, BFG_Nine-Thousand wrote: The only instance I can think of where American soldiers targetted civilians occured way back in Vietnam, and it was because their Platoon Leader was fucked up, not because the top brass had issued some death warrant.

Well, it was their shake 'n bake 2LT, William Calley, at least at Mi Lai (sp.). The rank and file followed orders and a warrant officer in a helicopter held off the platoon from killing more civillians.

[Laminated]

At 3/22/06 07:29 AM, Nylo wrote: The BBC ran a poll that ranked the most dangerous countries on the planet. Among those the United States ranked higher than Iran and Syria.

A poll represents the opinions of the people visiting the site, not the site itself. Unless the poll was conducted amongst BBC journalists, it's really no indication of bias on their part.

[Papa-Smuff]

At 3/22/06 03:19 PM, Laminated wrote: A poll represents the opinions of the people visiting the site, not the site itself. Unless the poll was conducted amongst BBC journalists, it's really no indication of bias on their part.

Yeah your right. The poll was apparently from like 11 countries. And in total I dont think we were reanked as more dangerous then syria, I think that was the country he said. We were voted more dangerous then syria when you only took in the votes from like lebonon, I forget which country. I was able to find a Link . It wasnt to the exact poll its just kind of a summary of the poll.

[ReiperX]

If what is said is true, those Marines deserve to be put in the brig. Its wrong and there is no excuse.

Just remember, not all Marines, not all US soldiers are like this, and most would probally be disgusted with this act if its true.

[RedSkunk]

Nobody ever said we were there to help them.

Well, wait. Some really delusional people say that, but they're crazy.

[HighlyIllogical]

At 3/22/06 03:41 PM, Papa_Smuff wrote:

At 3/22/06 03:19 PM, Laminated wrote: A poll represents the opinions of the people visiting the site, not the site itself. Unless the poll was conducted amongst BBC journalists, it's really no indication of bias on their part.

[info about the poll]

Still, a poll is representative, and, chances are, if this many people hate America, these journalists are just as biased.

[RedSkunk]

At 3/22/06 05:12 PM, GSgt_Liberal wrote: Still, a poll is representative, and, chances are, if this many people hate America, these journalists are just as biased.

The BBC is a better news outlet than anything we have in America. You people are really ignorant.

[Hammi]

At 3/21/06 08:30 PM, GSgt_Liberal wrote:

At 3/21/06 07:37 PM, Hammi wrote: http://news.bbc.co.u..dle_east/4827424.stm

Is there another source to cite?

These Marines are acting, most likely, in a prudent fashion. I wouldn't doubt that this massacre was, in part, committed by insurgents or that these children and women were being used as human shields. And by "cicilian," are you referring to someone from Sicily? Or do you mean "civillian," as in noncombatant?

No. I disagree. I trust these Marines.

No, the Iraqis CANNOT take "care of things" themselves. The only reason why civil war hasn't broken out completely is because of the steadying influence of American (and allied) forces.

Pardon me, but would you mind posting clearly. Thanks.

So far, i havent found any other sites where i can confirm the events. There are lots of this on norwegian sites, but i doubt that you will ever understand about what its said.

I doubt that those civilians were used as shields, because thats the most cowardly thing a rebel can do during a battle. What they generally do is attack and take cover. Guerillia tactics is used. Hit and run. There were even eyewitnesses who confirms that soldiers stormed local households and swiftly killed everyone living there. They freaked out and even shot children to dead, even though theyre invulnerable irrelevant targets. Another 4 years old girl was saying that "her fathers praying didnt protect their family this time, from being bothered by the americans". Just think of how much shit a child have to go through. Oh btw, im sorry about my misspell. I was actually referring to "civilians", but i wrote in a hurry and accidentally came near the C button.

Go ahead, trust those marines, but i dont. But one thing is for sure, that they DO freak out and commit serious crimes against the civilian ppl. Other marines think that its cool to shoot those ppl to dead. Because theyre bastards. Not all of them, but many of them just dont have the wits to identify the hidden enemy and they take it out on the civilians. There are many evidences on it. If you dunno, you must be blind.

If the US war against Iraq didnt proceeded in the first place, none of this wouldve happened. Now its pure hell going on there. And skip the bullshit about Iraq being a base of terrorism and all that shit. The country never posed any threat and was willing to prove it to the UN. Mr Hans Blix was eventually aware that this whole thing was a game being orchestered by the Bush administration, to justify the war. Nothing much he could do, nor could he report any useful available results, so the american government tapped his ass off from his position as a UN inspector, because he just suddenly becomed useless. SO, the USA forced a war on Iraq, despite the UNs critics about the misuse of the superpower status. And i believe that the heated fights between the sunnies and the shiites is a setup by the US army there or the CIA, just so they can keep opressing them, in order to prevent the groups from working together and create a resistance against the coalition occupation.

As long as im not busy or stressin, i will gladely take my time to make my points clearlier, thank you.

[Joodah]

At 3/22/06 05:15 PM, red_skunk wrote:

The BBC is a better news outlet than anything we have in America.

that's a matter of opinion. also, it depends on the subject matter.

[RedSkunk]

At 3/22/06 05:51 PM, Joodah wrote: that's a matter of opinion. also, it depends on the subject matter.

Care to spit a few more words of wisdom? Like "it's cold during winter," or "the Earth is round"?

[Joodah]

At 3/22/06 05:59 PM, red_skunk wrote:

Care to spit a few more words of wisdom? Like "it's cold during winter," or "the Earth is round"?

'k. the earth is round.
and where i am, it is actually warm in the winter.

[Hammi]

At 3/22/06 04:00 PM, Grammer wrote:

At 3/21/06 07:37 PM, Hammi wrote: The Iraqi ppl can take care of things themselves.

After reading this sentence I don't think I can take anything you write seriously, ever.

I believe in that they can solve it. There was hope, until they somehow blew it. The destruction of a holy place triggered the hate again, following with numerous bomb blasts. But i doubt greatly that its by coincidence. Why would they turn against each others in times like this? I sense an involvement by the CIA, with the US army there as well. Why? So they can crush any resistance that would oppose them. By messing up the peace ties between the Sunnies and the Shiites, they would break up the resistance movement from their infratructure, by breaking up their solidarity. You may feel hard to live with it, but the CIA loves to play dirty tricks on those who wont obey. The US army dont give a fuck about the conflict escalating between the Sunnies and the Shiites, just as long as they can split them up so they can take it out on each others instead. Its all a diversion. Nasty, but reality.

[No-one-inparticular]

I hope the Marines didn't kill women and children, but if they did, they are trigger-happy dumbasses who don't belong in combat.

[Joodah]

At 3/22/06 06:13 PM, Hammi wrote:

I believe in that they can solve it. There was hope, until they somehow blew it.

contradiction right there, in sentence one and two.

The destruction of a holy place triggered the hate again, following with numerous bomb blasts.

no, the hate was always there, or else the people wouldnt have blown up the other people's holy site.

But i doubt greatly that its by coincidence. Why would they turn against each others in times like this?

'cause one of the religions mercilessly surpressed the other, and now the tables are turned.

I sense an involvement by the CIA, with the US army there as well. Why? So they can crush any resistance that would oppose them.

c'mon man. the us army crushed the iraqui army in under two weeks. we don't need to crush any resistance, if we wnated that, we'd daisycutter or tac nuke you all to hell.

By messing up the peace ties between the Sunnies and the Shiites, they would break up the resistance movement from their infratructure, by breaking up their solidarity.

already pointed out that there isn't any solidarity. review some iraqi modern history, why don't you?

You may feel hard to live with it, but the CIA loves to play dirty tricks on those who wont obey.

um...no. just no.

The US army dont give a fuck about the conflict escalating between the Sunnies and the Shiites, just as long as they can split them up so they can take it out on each others instead. Its all a diversion. Nasty, but reality.

noooooooooooo. the us army wants them to buddy up really quickly so they stop getting shot at, bombed, and so they can get the hell out.

[Hammi]

At 3/21/06 08:11 PM, Imperator wrote: Old news anyways. If you find a link with an updated summary of the investigation, instead of the initial reaction, maybe I'll give a rat's ass what you (or is it "u"?) think......

Old news huh? Thats all you can think of? Im trying to state a point here, about lifes being taken away in cruelty. Youre not heartless are you? If you dont give a rats ass about what im trying to give impression of, what is your side of the tragedy? You dont give a rats ass about civilians in Iraq being murdered by marines, because its only "old news"? Does it mean that we should stop caring about it? At least state your thoughts about this meaningless bloodshed!

But i will get some more info about the investigation if something new comes up.