Classical Section Gone Bad!!!

[Petwoip]

The classical section of Newgrounds used to be my favorite. There, I discovered a new type of music that I hadn't experienced before. I began making several classical songs.

But that has changed. The classical section is going bad in many ways. First, it appears that most of the songs with a 4.00 rating or better have been zeroed! I don't know who did this, but it isnt the first time that something like this has happened. I'm not sure if one or many people did this, but whoever did is a complete JERK and deserves to get his/her/their account(s) BANNED. I wish it would stop. There were so many songs that got affected, so I believe whoever did it did not even hear HALF those songs but zeroed them anyway either to make their scores look good or because they just felt like it.

Now the Classical Portal is not diverse at all. I remember about one month ago when there were about 30 different artists on the 1st page. Now all I see is MaestrowSorrow, MilkMan_Dan, WinterWind, Edgen, and about four others (who only have one song). I am not saying that these artists are bad, in fact, most of them have very good music, but this lack of diversity has made the classical section very boring.
I believe that I am not the only person that feels this way. I am now afraid that if I post another song in the classical section, it will get zeroed for no reason.

And although this is an evident characteristic in the classical section, the same thing goes on in many other sections. I believe newgrounds audio is going downhill more and more every day because of all those zero voters who do not even consider listening to a song and judging it fairly. I am sick of all the people who zero a song and do not give a reason for it. If you zero, give a review and say why!!!!

Agree with me or not, this is a huge problem that is getting worse and worse. The esscence of the Audio Portal has gone done significantly in many ways.

My Music

[mhb]

well, on the topic of the zero voters i can only say one thing. everybody knows about it, it ain't gettin' fixed when the site gets revamped, we just gotta deal with it.

as for the diversity in the classical section, dude i'm gonna sound completely noobish at classical but i gotta say it man, it's fuckin' classical music. it's been around for centuries and because of that fact it's pretty much as diverse as it will ever be. all classical sounds excatly the same when you break it down. you got your woodwinds, your strings, your percussion, your brass, and occasionally vocals. but then it's opera.

those dudes that you listed are on the front page for a reason. their classical music kicks major fuckin' ass and that's all there is to it. i agree tat i would like to see other artists on the first page of genres but guess what... page two, three, four, five, etc. are all for that. if you like it then download it. simple as that.

i came off as a dick and i'm not tryin' ta be. i just wanted to clear up the fact that the site is gonna stay the same so there's no use to complain or voice an opinion about it. 'cause it's all been said and it'll never get done. thank you.

[XGM-Zeth]

Mhb; I disagree.
You say that it will sound so alike, because it has the same instruments.
As in, woodwinds, strings, brasses, perc's and so on.
But remember that a normal band has four instruments.
Guitar, Keyboard, Drums and Bass Guitar, still all they make can be so darn different.
Why? Because of the way they use the instruments.

I was merely making a point, Sorry if I offended you.

[PiePie]

For future reference don't advertise your music in a complaint thread...

Also Yes Mhb is right it is the sad truth but it will be fixed in future, also ok so the 1st top page is gone to garbage (this is not my opinion but wtv) so got o page 2 page 3 you do not have to only listen to the top 10 songs in the audio portal.

Go check out NDP he's good make you happy again.

[Petwoip]

I just wish there was a way so that more people would vote for songs they hear and avoid the zeros. If it is possible for NG to make a voting point system on NG that encourages people to rate songs as they deserve, than I would be totally behind it. Maybe there can be a way so you can only vote for a song if you've heard the whole thing. I know this would be extremely hard to do for songs that hurt your ears, but it is an idea. That way, people cannot just run down a list and zero.

[mhb]

At 3/19/06 01:04 PM, XGM-Zeth wrote: Mhb; I disagree.
You say that it will sound so alike, because it has the same instruments.
As in, woodwinds, strings, brasses, perc's and so on.
But remember that a normal band has four instruments.
Guitar, Keyboard, Drums and Bass Guitar, still all they make can be so darn different.
Why? Because of the way they use the instruments.

I was merely making a point, Sorry if I offended you.

i see your point completely but at the same time all bands sounds exactly the same to me too. except for emo. all emo sounds the same, but it don't sound like anything else. whining and cryin' with a cock in your mouth sounds bad no mater how intense your try to make the music in the background. damn emo kids.

[Khuskan]

At 3/19/06 01:12 PM, Petwoip wrote: I just wish there was a way so that more people would vote for songs they hear and avoid the zeros. If it is possible for NG to make a voting point system on NG that encourages people to rate songs as they deserve,

I challenge you to program a php script that can rate exactly how good music is.

[DavidOrr]

At 3/19/06 01:14 PM, mhb wrote:

At 3/19/06 01:04 PM, XGM-Zeth wrote: Mhb; I disagree.
You say that it will sound so alike, because it has the same instruments.
As in, woodwinds, strings, brasses, perc's and so on.
But remember that a normal band has four instruments.
Guitar, Keyboard, Drums and Bass Guitar, still all they make can be so darn different.
Why? Because of the way they use the instruments.

I was merely making a point, Sorry if I offended you.

i see your point completely but at the same time all bands sounds exactly the same to me too. except for emo. all emo sounds the same, but it don't sound like anything else. whining and cryin' with a cock in your mouth sounds bad no mater how intense your try to make the music in the background. damn emo kids.

Believe me when I say this: Classical music is the most diverse kind of music there is. When you break it down you've got so much more than just instruments. I could write a whole book on why classical music is the most diverse music out there, hands down.

Don't mean to gangbang you, but that comment raised an eyebrow.

[mhb]

it could be. but so far the most diverse music is video game music.

[Petwoip]

Good point Khuskan, hehe, the last three sentances i wrote make a lot more sense.

[MrDrunk]

The funny thing is, most of the music in the "classical" section is not actually classical music. Its just orchestriac music that would more easily fall under the definition of the music from the romantic era, if even so. It really is just orchestriac music. Classical music, if my memory serves me, is music from a long time ago that strictly adhered to a certain form. Look it up in the dictionary or a music information site of some sort.

As for all the zeroed pieces, that frustrates me too, so thats why you just have to look back in the lower scored pages. Hell even go back to the pages where everything is all zeros(the ones that slipped under the radar) I have found some awesome stuff back there before that does deserve attention.

Just take a look around.

[Khuskan]

At 3/19/06 04:57 PM, MrDrunk wrote: The funny thing is, most of the music in the "classical" section is not actually classical music. Its just orchestriac music that would more easily fall under the definition of the music from the romantic era, if even so. It really is just orchestriac music. Classical music, if my memory serves me, is music from a long time ago that strictly adhered to a certain form. Look it up in the dictionary or a music information site of some sort.

Thats what i've been saying for years.

The thing is though, the AP was designed for the animators as a resource, and since most people who make flash are not the slightest bit musical, then it makes sence to them that anything with strings is 'classical'

[MaestroSorrow]

Well, the flash portal has flashes "under judgement", that you can't vote on unless you go through all of it, or at least a good portion. Something similar might be a welcome addition to the audio portal?

[DavidOrr]

At 3/19/06 04:57 PM, MrDrunk wrote: The funny thing is, most of the music in the "classical" section is not actually classical music. Its just orchestriac music that would more easily fall under the definition of the music from the romantic era, if even so.

Not even romantic era. I mean, there are people like Debussy who didn't strictly follow form, but 99% of the classical music on the AP doesn't follow any musical form. I would consider it more tonal, thru composed contemporary music than anything. But now we're just getting picky.

[Denvish]

At 3/19/06 06:19 PM, MaestroSorrow wrote: Well, the flash portal has flashes "under judgement", that you can't vote on unless you go through all of it, or at least a good portion. Something similar might be a welcome addition to the audio portal?

Been suggested many time, unlikely to be implemented in the near future, if ever.
When I select audio for a Flash, I usually use the 'search by details' option. Which means that it's irrelevant whether the audio is on page 1 or page 21 of a genre. I would imagine that a lot of Flash authors do the same.

[PiePie]

At 3/19/06 08:05 PM, Denvish wrote: Been suggested many time, unlikely to be implemented in the near future, if ever.
When I select audio for a Flash, I usually use the 'search by details' option. Which means that it's irrelevant whether the audio is on page 1 or page 21 of a genre. I would imagine that a lot of Flash authors do the same.

yes I started usign the search bar jsut now trying to find the stolen song from HouseMasta...

instead I found an awsome song By Wanion and the score was 1 so I would of never of found it so yes.

[HaterTrick]

people doing this to anything in gerneral need to stop or go make their on website to take the fun out of