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At 1/17/03 09:52 PM, implodinggoat wrote: Do you think that people should implicitly trust their government or should they attempt to limit their government's power over them whenever possible?

It depends on the government. If it is a government which tries to make things better for the poor people in its country harder than that it tries to make the rich even richer, and if they don't harm other countries by doing that, I think the people have nothing to complain about.

But otherwise if the government is making itselves richer by the taxes of the poor people, they should be expelled.

I don't think you can give an answer on your question which always is right, whichever country you take.
That really is impossible.

I work for the Canadian Forces, and I can honestly say I do not trust the government. I lived in the US for a while too, and I didn't trust it then, and still don't trust it now. All governments have a habit of throwing something unexpected in your face that will anger you. It makes you think that they should have done something beforehand to prevent it from happening.
For example: the Canadian government is supposedly in a temporary "recession" resulting in me working MUCH less then before. The army is not unionized, so all I can do is do my best to save money until I can work full time again.
This case is true for most countries, it happens more often then you think. I can't say for my part that I trust the government, ANY government, very much.

At 2/7/03 09:33 AM, neatom14 wrote: I work for the Canadian Forces, and I can honestly say I do not trust the government. I lived in the US for a while too, and I didn't trust it then, and still don't trust it now. All governments have a habit of throwing something unexpected in your face that will anger you. It makes you think that they should have done something beforehand to prevent it from happening.
For example: the Canadian government is supposedly in a temporary "recession" resulting in me working MUCH less then before. The army is not unionized, so all I can do is do my best to save money until I can work full time again.
This case is true for most countries, it happens more often then you think. I can't say for my part that I trust the government, ANY government, very much.

I think that what you say is true for a lot of countries, but certainly not for ANY country!
I know the Dutch government screwed up the latest year, but that doesn't change my opinion.
You can't say every country is untrustable!!!

people must understand what their gov. is doing and limit their power accordinly

At 2/7/03 08:42 PM, nathan1313us wrote: people must understand what their gov. is doing and limit their power accordinly

But if you understand what your government is doing and you agree with what they are doing, nothing's wrong, right?

At 2/7/03 08:26 AM, Boco_the_Choco wrote: It depends on the government. If it is a government which tries to make things better for the poor people in its country harder than that it tries to make the rich even richer, and if they don't harm other countries by doing that, I think the people have nothing to complain about.

But otherwise if the government is making itselves richer by the taxes of the poor people, they should be expelled.

I don't think you can give an answer on your question which always is right, whichever country you take.
That really is impossible.

What you do not realize is that governments are not concrete they change over time. Even if you currently have a benevolent and trustworthy government if you entrust them with too much power than you risk future regimes trampling on your liberty