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At 4/1/06 06:22 PM, Penal_Disturbance wrote: If you are a liberal as you say, then you're trying too hard to sweet-talk the other side. It doesn't work.

Not really. I'm not such an asshole I need to claim the other side tortures and murders those they disagree with. If you can't go five seconds without insulting someone with oppisite views then you and therefor can't make republican friends, then good for you. I don't take the internet so seriously that I need to spew my political oppinions to people who don't want to listen.

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That's completely missing the point. That other topic didn't claim republicans wanted genocide, at least not in such a blunt and disgusting manner as you apply. The actions which republicans supported may certainly have led to mass loss of life, however.

Again, you're trying to "get into bed" with republicans, and it won't work. Like it or not, there is a social division, and neitehr side can be politically friendly, ever.


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At 4/1/06 06:28 PM, LettuceClock wrote: There's still the fact that A) Hitler would have still lost the war without U.S involvment.

I am incilined to believe that but there are still huge grounds for debate on that. What the Western Allies did to keep Hitler from gaining the Suez and the oil in the Middle East, the resources consumed in the creation of the Atlantic Wall, the tremendous destruction by American bombers of German industry, the resources provided to the Soviets, I cannot say that.

Actually, strike that. No one can claim that. America and Britain simply did to much in the war for that to be claimed with any certainty that Hitler still would have lost.

Without the French, there would be no chance WHATSOEVER we would have won the revolution.

Almost certainly true, but, again, America did a hell of a lot of stuff by themselves without the French. Hard to claim that. They HELPED us win, helped us alot, but they did not CAUSE us to win.

So please, go be racist elseware. And before you argue insulting and generalizing them doesn't count as racism because they are white, I do not care.

Hey, even you know that point is so fuckin stupid you even add a disclaimer at the end.

And insulting their performance in WWII constitues racism? Heh. Dumbass.

I didn't tell you to leave, I said that if Humour pisses you off, you SHOULD leave.

Indeed, humor angers me greatly. Fuckin pisses me of so fuckin much. Fuckin funny people and all the funny shit they do. I HATE them.

But not you, cause your not funny : )

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Btw, I'm coming off as a bit of a hardass so I'll elaborate a bit further.

The "You might be a republican if..." was probably a backlash to the "You might be a redneck if" and had some very accurate criticisms of republicans, as there isn't a single thing in it that hasn't been said by a republican on this forum.

What Lettuce Clock is trying to do is to diss his own side for fighting with the other side, thinking that it makes him smarter for it. In reality, all it does is side-step issues and causes more complication; and doesn't really stop anyone fighting.


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At 4/1/06 06:35 PM, Penal_Disturbance wrote: That's completely missing the point. That other topic didn't claim republicans wanted genocide, at least not in such a blunt and disgusting manner as you apply. The actions which republicans supported may certainly have led to mass loss of life, however.

He specifically said that Republican torture and murder gay's. He was seriouse. I said Democrates get boners from dead babies. I am joking. If you can't see which is worse, there is something wrong with you.

Again, you're trying to "get into bed" with republicans, and it won't work.

Yep. To bad there have been so many posts from Republicans saying "Man, that was funny".

Like it or not, there is a social division, and neitehr side can be politically friendly, ever.

Once again; just because your such a brain-washed dumbass that all your conversations with republicans go
"Republican: Hi. What's up?
You: GET THE FUCK AWAY FROM ME GAY-MURDERER!!!"
doesn't mean normall people can't have normal relationships with people of oppisite qualities. For example, we are at war with Iraq, yet one of my best friends is Iraqi. The Brittish are opressing my people, but my GF is from Brittain. I am Pagan, yet the guy I always talk to in school is Roman-Catholic. I'm not an asshole, that's all it takes.

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At 4/1/06 06:38 PM, FAB0L0US wrote:
I am incilined to believe that but there are still huge grounds for debate on that. What the Western Allies did to keep Hitler from gaining the Suez and the oil in the Middle East, the resources consumed in the creation of the Atlantic Wall, the tremendous destruction by American bombers of German industry, the resources provided to the Soviets, I cannot say that.

Actually, strike that. No one can claim that. America and Britain simply did to much in the war for that to be claimed with any certainty that Hitler still would have lost.

I disagree. Brittain would have faught to the end. And Hitler would not have been able to take Russia. At worst, we would have Hitler and Stalin controlling all of Eurasia, but at least then west Europe could have been reformed. IMHO, once Hitler was gone, that was it; end of campain. Look at every instance where a good ruler takes a shitty country and takes over the world with it: after they die, a succeser maintains the empire for a while, then it all crumbles.

Almost certainly true, but, again, America did a hell of a lot of stuff by themselves without the French. Hard to claim that. They HELPED us win, helped us alot, but they did not CAUSE us to win.

Please. Some of the most prominent Patriot fighters admitted they would lose without France. Without them, every single battle would be like Trent-town; either you go against immesurable odd's and win, or the revolution is over. Eventually we would have just gotten freedom like Canada did, but we would have about half as much land as we do now, and still the queen would have alot of power.

Hey, even you know that point is so fuckin stupid you even add a disclaimer at the end.

Notice how you don't argue with what I say. It's simple; just because someones white doesn't mean they can't be victims of racism by other whites.

And insulting their performance in WWII constitues racism? Heh. Dumbass.

Insulting and generalizing an entire country because of thier premormance in WW2 is, yes. If you went "Man, modern germany is a bunch of Nazi jew killers", it would be racist.

Indeed, humor angers me greatly. Fuckin pisses me of so fuckin much. Fuckin funny people and all the funny shit they do. I HATE them.
But not you, cause your not funny : )

Please. You're just mad because you failed to recongnize this was an obviouse joke thread.

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He specifically said that Republican torture and murder gay's. He was seriouse. I said Democrates get boners from dead babies. I am joking. If you can't see which is worse, there is something wrong with you.

He did? I must have missed it then. I don't recall anything of the sort, except where it was a purposeful exagerration.

Regardless, parodies of that topic have been done to death. Why make another weeks later?

Yep. To bad there have been so many posts from Republicans saying "Man, that was funny".

Which is exactly why it doesn't work.

Once again; just because your such a brain-washed dumbass that all your conversations with republicans go

"Republican: Hi. What's up?
You: GET THE FUCK AWAY FROM ME GAY-MURDERER!!!"
doesn't mean normall people can't have normal relationships with people of oppisite qualities

What the fuck? First of all, I'm not "brain-washed". It seems that because you're "independant" somewhat, you deem yourself superior to people who "pick a side"(which I never did, as these genuinely ARE my beliefs, or what I was born into). I don't overreact to someone like that purely because they're republican. If they are homophobic however, I will probably not persue a personal relationship with that person. I can't just ignore the kind of things that them expressing their views enables, or anyone with those kind of views.


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At 4/1/06 07:09 PM, Penal_Disturbance wrote:
He did? I must have missed it then. I don't recall anything of the sort, except where it was a purposeful exagerration.

"...you believe homosexuals should be tortured to death just for being homosexuals"

Regardless, parodies of that topic have been done to death

This was the first ever made.

Why make another weeks later?

Are you fucking retarded? I made this the same day he made his.

Which is exactly why it doesn't work.

Of course; people with seperate oppinions as you don't have the right to be happy.

What the fuck? First of all, I'm not "brain-washed". It seems that because you're "independant" somewhat, you deem yourself superior to people who "pick a side"(which I never did, as these genuinely ARE my beliefs, or what I was born into). I don't overreact to someone like that purely because they're republican.

Yes, you do. Saying it's impossible to be friends with a republican is over-reacting.

If they are homophobic however, I will probably not persue a personal relationship with that person.

Get this dipshit; saying all republicans are homophobes is as close-minded as saying all democrates are gay.

I can't just ignore the kind of things that them expressing their views enables, or anyone with those kind of views.

Boo-hoo, someone is ignorent. So are you. If I have friends with seperate oppinions as me, you know what I do? Say "Oh well".

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At 4/1/06 06:58 PM, LettuceClock wrote: I disagree. Brittain would have faught to the end.

Why does that matter?

And Hitler would not have been able to take Russia. At worst, we would have Hitler and Stalin controlling all of Eurasia, but at least then west Europe could have been reformed.

Reformed? Like how? Having a communist Europe? Having a fascist, Nazi, Europe? You think Europe would have been better off? You shitting me?

IMHO, once Hitler was gone, that was it; end of campain. Look at every instance where a good ruler takes a shitty country and takes over the world with it: after they die, a succeser maintains the empire for a while, then it all crumbles.

A shitty country? Germany? They were the most powerful force in both World Wars. And yeah, lets say you are right. That scenario is great. Fascism would have taken root in Europe and all Jews, Gypsies, and other undersirables would have been gone. Yeah, how would that matter?

Please. Some of the most prominent Patriot fighters admitted they would lose without France. Without them, every single battle would be like Trent-town; either you go against immesurable odd's and win, or the revolution is over.

Your statements that say you have to win or the war is over show you have close to no understanding of how the war was fought. Americans were almost always outnumbered, out supplied, and without a navy. So, they lost batles often, tactical defeats but strategic victories. Every battle the Americans survived was a victory.

And without the French the Americans were lost? Saratoga? An American victory. Boston? An American victory. Trenton? An American victory. Princeton? An American victory. Cowpens? An American victory.

French support, especially their Navy, in Yorktown was CRITICAL to ending the war (cutting off the British from a naval retreat like the British would have liked to do to the fledgling American army at the Battle of Brooklyn Heights) and French financial assistance was also incredibly important but throughout the war, Americans like Nathaniel Greene, Washington, Benedict Arnold, Daniel Morgan were what won the war, not the French, as important as their assistancce was later in the war.

And I have no idea what the battle of Trent-town is.

Notice how you don't argue with what I say. It's simple; just because someones white doesn't mean they can't be victims of racism by other whites.

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I didnt know "French" was a race.

Insulting and generalizing an entire country because of thier premormance in WW2 is, yes. If you went "Man, modern germany is a bunch of Nazi jew killers", it would be racist.

When did I make any comparisons of the pathetic French performance in WWII to anything they did today? You are a smart cookie.

Please. You're just mad because you failed to recongnize this was an obviouse joke thread.

SO mad. As mad as I get at funny people and all their funny fuckin ways.

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At 4/1/06 10:18 PM, FAB0L0US wrote:
At 4/1/06 06:58 PM, LettuceClock wrote:
A shitty country? Germany? They were the most powerful force in both World Wars. And yeah, lets say you are right. That scenario is great. Fascism would have taken root in Europe and all Jews, Gypsies, and other undersirables would have been gone. Yeah, how would that matter?

Funny thing is, I bet that if the Nazis didn't have a racist ideology, then they could have done much better than they ended up doing.

French support, especially their Navy, in Yorktown was CRITICAL to ending the war...

It's quite funny how the French were put into debt by our revolution, this being a partial cause of the French Revolution.

When did I make any comparisons of the pathetic French performance in WWII to anything they did today? You are a smart cookie.

Though the French did contribute, negligibly, to the Allied victory (kaf resistance kaf)


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At 4/1/06 10:18 PM, FAB0L0US wrote:
Why does that matter?

Brittain was tough, they might have been able to hold out till Hitlers death.

Reformed? Like how? Having a communist Europe? Having a fascist, Nazi, Europe? You think Europe would have been better off? You shitting me?

I think having a Half Soviet half Nazi Europe would be better then an all Nazi europe, yes. While Stalin was scum, I am sure his succesors would allow for the re-formation of europe close to how it was after the war, which I doubt would happen if Germany owned it all.

A shitty country? Germany? They were the most powerful force in both World Wars.

I mean post WWI. If not for Hitler, Germany wouldn't be shit. Hitler with Germany was like Napoleon with France. A great leader with a mediocre country for building an empire.

And yeah, lets say you are right. That scenario is great. Fascism would have taken root in Europe and all Jews, Gypsies, and other undersirables would have been gone. Yeah, how would that matter?

Yes, all Jew's and Gypsies would be dead or have left, and facism would take root, but would you rather Hitler completely win, all of Eurasia and Africa belong to the Axis, and Facism being forever?

Your statements that say you have to win or the war is over show you have close to no understanding of how the war was fought. Americans were almost always outnumbered, out supplied, and without a navy. So, they lost batles often, tactical defeats but strategic victories. Every battle the Americans survived was a victory.

No, you're responce show's your small understanding of Trenton. Washington and his men where starving, and if they had lost that battle, the entire war would have been lost. Simple as that.

And without the French the Americans were lost? Saratoga? An American victory. Boston? An American victory. Trenton? An American victory. Princeton? An American victory. Cowpens? An American victory.

Yes, of course they where American victories, it was America FIGHTING THE WAR. The French gave supplies and such that allowed the Americans to win.

French support, especially their Navy, in Yorktown was CRITICAL to ending the war (cutting off the British from a naval retreat like the British would have liked to do to the fledgling American army at the Battle of Brooklyn Heights) and French financial assistance was also incredibly important but throughout the war, Americans like Nathaniel Greene, Washington, Benedict Arnold, Daniel Morgan were what won the war, not the French, as important as their assistancce was later in the war.

It would have been impossible to win without them. They gave us gun's to fight the Brittish, and without them we would have no chance of winning the war. Ask ANY revolutionary war scholar. While Benidict might have been the best General in the world at that time, a great load of good him and Washington running around with sticks and stones half starved would do.

And I have no idea what the battle of Trent-town is.

Don't be a smart aleck, I meant Trenton.

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I didnt know "French" was a race.

If I went around saying "Everyone from Iraq is a bunch of camel fucking terrorists", would it be considered racist? Yes. In practical terms, racism may have nothing to do with race.

When did I make any comparisons of the pathetic French performance in WWII to anything they did today? You are a smart cookie.

I said it's stupid to insult and bash french people, and you argued with me, citing thier WW2 preformance.

SO mad. As mad as I get at funny people and all their funny fuckin ways.

Still doesn't change the fact that you can't see an obviouse parady.

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At 4/1/06 10:37 PM, GSgt_Liberal wrote:
Funny thing is, I bet that if the Nazis didn't have a racist ideology, then they could have done much better than they ended up doing.

Not to much better. Hitler was an inferior Napoleon, who was in turn an inferior Barborossa or whoever you want. If they failed, Hitler still would of failed in world conquest. There are only 2 way's conquest can work.
1 is to have an equally strong succueser, like Kublai Khan. The other is to go about it Roman style; you're goal is to conquer the world, but you start small, and have a specific game plan, slowly growing larger.

I bet, if Hitler had conquered/annexed a few different countries and maintained ties with soviets, and ditched the religiouse hate, however, that Germany would have grown inot a pretty great country. But do you honestly think Hitler had that kind of self-dicipline?

It's quite funny how the French were put into debt by our revolution, this being a partial cause of the French Revolution.

Not to mention that Thomas Payne, after helping start the American Revolution, ran to France and called for a revolution THERE, too. Of course, he certainly didn't want the massacre that happened.

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At 3/12/06 05:08 PM, LettuceClock wrote: ...Pictures of aborted babies make you hard, but Condoleeza Rice makes you puke.

Let's see. Aborted babies don't make anyone hard. Really. Condoleeza Rice does make me puke, and here's why. She has a PHD in Russian Relations, yet her entire thesis was about why we should have bombed the shit out of Mscow to stop the Cold War 30 years beforehand by pre-emptively killing the commies with nukes. Yeah, she makes me puke.

... You think ditching a few day's of Air Force service is impeachable, but spending an entire military term doing jack shit and getting a purple heart for it is commendable.

This is unwarranted. I'm a debate state champion, and I say that you have no warrant. NORMALLY you get a purple heart, as one previous poster explained, for being shot. Kerry was shot. If you can actually claim that Bush shouldn't be impeached for dodging a war that Kerry was shot in, then you go to war, get shot, then come back and see how it feels when some asshole says that you weren't shot. I'm sorry, but you really have no truth to your statement. At least Kerry WAS in Vietnam, and the vets don't disprove that, while the evidence very clearly shows Bush not serving. Who do you trust more? Ingsoc or Fifa? Smith or O'Brien?

...Flip-Flopping you're reasons for going into war is horrible, but flip-flopping on EVERYTHING is just fine.

Once again, an unwarranted assertion that's B.S.

...Bombing a Tyonal building in another country because you think they might be terrorists is Okey-Dokey, but going to war with a country because they ARE terrorists is wrong.

O.k. this is where you really have to get up and look in a mirror. Bombing a tylenol building is bad, sure. BUT LYING TO THE FUCKING AMERICAN PEOPLE, THEN BOMBING THE SHIT OUT OF A COUNTRY THAT HAD NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION IS COMPLETE BULLSHIT. STOP WITH THE B.S.

... In your oppinion, when the Prime Minister of Brittain is a Republican presidents bitch, it's discusting. But when he's a Democrat president's bitch, it's "Good foreign relations"

First off, you illiterate dog, you mispelled disgusting. Secondly, we don't like Blair because it's not good foreign relations, he's our ONLY foreign relation. There's a difference.

...Accidently shooting your wad on her dress is just fine, but accidently shooting your gun at some guys face is horrible.

The Democrat party never agreed with Clinton's adultery. But this is bullshit. You are completely circumenting Bush's crimes with your ignorance. He's committed fraud, murder, larceny, drug-running, and any number of other felonies. He's lied to the American people, committed war crimes, destroyed foreign relations, and spread the ideal of doublespeak with bullshit initiatives like "The Clear Skies initiative" and "No Child Left Behind".

...When a fat, pompouse, no good lying dick makes a movie full of lies and deciet it's wonderfull, but when a skinny, pompouse, no good lying blond bitch makes a book full of lies and deciet it's despicable.

This is sick. Michael Moore is not a fat, pompous dick. He didn't lie. Ann Coulter is despicable because she DID make a book on lies and deceit. Moore's movie is a documentary for a reason. It shows actual events.

...The Church has absolutely no right to controll any aspect of the U.S government, but the U.S government does have the right to force the church to go against it's very beliefs and let homosexuals get married.

No shit the Church should have no right to control the government. Dur. The U.S. gov. isn't forcing the church to do jack shit in forcing churches to allow marriage. What it's doing is called CIVIL UNIONS. BIG difference.

...When it comes to the second amendment, you believe we need to completely overide it because these changing times requires it. When it comes to wire tapping however, it goes against the constitution, and it's not like we can just over-rided just because these changing times requires it; that's not how things work.

Mispelled override. Good job. Uh, no. Wire-tapping= bad. Assault rifles in the hands of 10-year olds= bad. Stop spewing your b.s.

...You think it's inapropriote to teach the theory of creationism since it's completely un-proved and theres no evidence to support it. Instead, you want them to teach the completely un-proved theory with no evidence to support it that say's the exact oppisite.

Oh man, another mispelling. INNAPROPRIATE. AGH. Ok, here's where you need to look up the theory of the flying spaghetti monster. When you have evolution proven, its no longer a theory, its a fact. There is no proof of creationism but faith. And faith= lack of evidence.

...It's horrible to expose children to firearms of any type... you know, untill they grow up, join the army, and save you're pussy ass from the guy's with a Turban and a S.T.I.N.G.E.R missle.

...Ok, this is where the stupidity shines. The guys with the turbans and the S.T.I.N.G.E.R. missles will only kill them when the guys are in the army. Not saving our asses. We leave in the U.S. they can't fly here.

...When Bush Sr. Meets up with middle eastern dictators whom we later go to war with it makes you sick, but when a Democrate does it it's, once again, "Good foreign relations"

Hmm. Unwarranted.

...You think that the Horrible religiouse murders the Isreali's commit are better then the horrible religiouse murders the Palistinians commit because they're our allies.

No. We don't.

That french shit was excised because you suck.

...When the Northern states, I.E Massachusets and Maine attempt to brake free from they're owners because they want a different form of government and more power it's a gloriouse fight for freedom, but when the southern states do the same thing for the same reasons 100 or so years later, they're horrible racist dicks.

Another mispelling. And more warrantless claims.

Yes, I realise the french thing was an "America in generall" thing. Don't hop on my nuts.

I will. Again and again. Bleed yellow blood you sinful creature.
oh, by the way, that scar you have doesn't exist. oh, by the way, that scar you have never happened oh by the way, you weren't shot

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At 4/1/06 11:44 PM, DtKnight wrote:
Let's see. Aborted babies don't make anyone hard. Really. Condoleeza Rice does make me puke, and here's why. She has a PHD in Russian Relations, yet her entire thesis was about why we should have bombed the shit out of Mscow to stop the Cold War 30 years beforehand by pre-emptively killing the commies with nukes. Yeah, she makes me puke.

This is a joke thread to parody the insane accusations made in "You might be a Republican if...".

This is unwarranted. I'm a debate state champion, and I say that you have no warrant. NORMALLY you get a purple heart, as one previous poster explained, for being shot. Kerry was shot. If you can actually claim that Bush shouldn't be impeached for dodging a war that Kerry was shot in, then you go to war, get shot, then come back and see how it feels when some asshole says that you weren't shot. I'm sorry, but you really have no truth to your statement. At least Kerry WAS in Vietnam, and the vets don't disprove that, while the evidence very clearly shows Bush not serving. Who do you trust more? Ingsoc or Fifa? Smith or O'Brien?

This is a joke thread to parody the insane accusations made in "You might be a Republican if...".

Once again, an unwarranted assertion that's B.S.

This is a joke thread to parody the insane accusations made in "You might be a Republican if...".

O.k. this is where you really have to get up and look in a mirror. Bombing a tylenol building is bad, sure. BUT LYING TO THE FUCKING AMERICAN PEOPLE, THEN BOMBING THE SHIT OUT OF A COUNTRY THAT HAD NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION IS COMPLETE BULLSHIT. STOP WITH THE B.S.

This is a joke thread to parody the insane accusations made in "You might be a Republican if...".

First off, you illiterate dog, you mispelled disgusting. Secondly, we don't like Blair because it's not good foreign relations, he's our ONLY foreign relation. There's a difference.

This is a joke thread to parody the insane accusations made in "You might be a Republican if...".

The Democrat party never agreed with Clinton's adultery. But this is bullshit. You are completely circumenting Bush's crimes with your ignorance. He's committed fraud, murder, larceny, drug-running, and any number of other felonies. He's lied to the American people, committed war crimes, destroyed foreign relations, and spread the ideal of doublespeak with bullshit initiatives like "The Clear Skies initiative" and "No Child Left Behind".

This is a joke thread to parody the insane accusations made in "You might be a Republican if...".

No shit the Church should have no right to control the government. Dur. The U.S. gov. isn't forcing the church to do jack shit in forcing churches to allow marriage. What it's doing is called CIVIL UNIONS. BIG difference.

This is a joke thread to parody the insane accusations made in "You might be a Republican if...".

Mispelled override. Good job. Uh, no. Wire-tapping= bad. Assault rifles in the hands of 10-year olds= bad. Stop spewing your b.s.

This is a joke thread to parody the insane accusations made in "You might be a Republican if...".

Oh man, another mispelling. INNAPROPRIATE. AGH. Ok, here's where you need to look up the theory of the flying spaghetti monster. When you have evolution proven, its no longer a theory, its a fact. There is no proof of creationism but faith. And faith= lack of evidence.

This is a joke thread to parody the insane accusations made in "You might be a Republican if...".

...Ok, this is where the stupidity shines. The guys with the turbans and the S.T.I.N.G.E.R. missles will only kill them when the guys are in the army. Not saving our asses. We leave in the U.S. they can't fly here.

This is a joke thread to parody the insane accusations made in "You might be a Republican if...".

Hmm. Unwarranted.

This is a joke thread to parody the insane accusations made in "You might be a Republican if...".

No. We don't.

This is a joke thread to parody the insane accusations made in "You might be a Republican if...".

That french shit was excised because you suck.

This is a joke thread to parody the insane accusations made in "You might be a Republican if...".

Another mispelling. And more warrantless claims.

This is a joke thread to parody the insane accusations made in "You might be a Republican if...".

I will. Again and again. Bleed yellow blood you sinful creature.
oh, by the way, that scar you have doesn't exist. oh, by the way, that scar you have never happened oh by the way, you weren't shot

This is a joke thread to parody the insane accusations made in "You might be a Republican if...".

Oh come ON.

This is a joke thread to parody the insane accusations made in "You might be a Republican if...".

Wow. Even though this was a joke, you are a HORRIBLE debater. Half the times I brought up a brand new issue, you said "That isn't warranted". Yes it is warranted, since that's the fucking topic. YOU, however, made many un-warranted statements, by arguing so many thing that had nothing to do with Bushes crimes with Bushes crimes. For example: when I was talking about Dick accidently shooting a man in a hunting accident, you, for some reason, brought up all of bushes crimes and ignored the subject. If it wasn't for the fact that I don't believe 95 percent of the stuff I wrote, I could have torn you a new asshole.

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At 4/1/06 11:14 PM, LettuceClock wrote: No, you're responce show's your small understanding of Trenton. Washington and his men where starving, and if they had lost that battle, the entire war would have been lost. Simple as that.

They were starving the entire war. Trenton was a HUGE gamble, given. But so was damn near every battle they fought in. Frances involvement didnt change that at all.

It would have been impossible to win without them. They gave us gun's to fight the Brittish, and without them we would have no chance of winning the war. Ask ANY revolutionary war scholar. While Benidict might have been the best General in the world at that time, a great load of good him and Washington running around with sticks and stones half starved would do.

Our first artillery was from Ft. Ticonderoga, dragged across hundreds of miles in a terrible winter by Knox. It was CRITICAL in causing the withdrawal of Howes army in Boston. French involvement? None.

America did all the hard work. France only involved themselves when it looked like America had a damn good chance of wining or at least pulling a stalemate.

Whatever, I dont care. France was instrumental in the timely defeat of the British but I will not say they were THE reason America won. America won because of America. France helped. I have a problem with people overstating the importance of French involvement in the war. Americans suffered for years before the France decided to get involved. I dont blame them for this, their actions made perfect sense, why involve themselves in a possibly losing rebellion? But I am not going to feel indebted to them for them seeing everyones hands laid out and realizing the Americans had a much stronger one than initially suspected. They got involved for their own gain, not ours.

And maybe we wouldnt have won the war. There is nothing to suggest it may have not ended the stalemate, however. Both sides suffered huge defeats, Camden, Saratoga, and smaller ones, Cowpens, Brooklynn Heights. No one had the initiative. All the French did was what could have been done in Boston in 1777 if the Americans had a Navy, force the enemy to fight in conditions to the Americans advantage or surrendur. There was no retreating from Yorktown. There COULD have been no retreat from Boston, if the Americans had a Navy to keep them from withdrawing. They tipped the scales to the Americans advantage and helped hand the initiative to the Americans.

If I went around saying "Everyone from Iraq is a bunch of camel fucking terrorists", would it be considered racist? Yes. In practical terms, racism may have nothing to do with race.

I disagree. But whatever. You cant be racist against other white people. That is about the dumbest thing I ever heard of.

Anyway, Iraqis are... ARAB!!! French are... WHITE EUROPEANS!! Comparison= fail.

I said it's stupid to insult and bash french people, and you argued with me, citing thier WW2 preformance.

I dont like apologists for France pathetic performance in WWII. I have no problem with French people and France. I have a problem with people saying France tried to save lives in WWII. They didnt. They were cockbags that signed a treaty with Poland and then left them high and dry. That is the ultimate backstabing action. And Poland contributed VASTLY more to the war than France did. What did they get? The Warsaw Pact and a puppet goverment ruled by the USSR. What did France get? The Marshal Plan and a seat on the Security Council they most definatley didnt deserve or gain for their duplicitious and cowardly actions in WWII.

Still doesn't change the fact that you can't see an obviouse parady.

This is fuckin newgrounds. You honestly think I havent seen posts 1000's of times more idiotic thatn this and they were for real?

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At 4/2/06 12:40 AM, FAB0L0US wrote: And maybe we wouldnt have won the war. There is nothing to suggest it may have not ended the stalemate, however.

Ended IN a stalemate, however.

Excuse me. Thats what I meant.

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At 4/2/06 12:40 AM, FAB0L0US wrote:
They were starving the entire war. Trenton was a HUGE gamble, given. But so was damn near every battle they fought in. Frances involvement didnt change that at all.

But if they had lost at Trenton, they would have lost the war.

Our first artillery was from Ft. Ticonderoga, dragged across hundreds of miles in a terrible winter by Knox. It was CRITICAL in causing the withdrawal of Howes army in Boston. French involvement? None.

... Involvment to what I said? None.

America did all the hard work. France only involved themselves when it looked like America had a damn good chance of wining or at least pulling a stalemate.

Oh, I know. But we still needed them, no matter how un-motivated and selfish they where.

Whatever, I dont care. France was instrumental in the timely defeat of the British but I will not say they were THE reason America won. America won because of America. France helped. I have a problem with people overstating the importance of French involvement in the war. Americans suffered for years before the France decided to get involved. I dont blame them for this, their actions made perfect sense, why involve themselves in a possibly losing rebellion? But I am not going to feel indebted to them for them seeing everyones hands laid out and realizing the Americans had a much stronger one than initially suspected. They got involved for their own gain, not ours.

Oh, by all means, don't feel like you owe it to them. I still think we would have lost without them, but they where definatly looking out for themselves. Just don't turn into one of those French Bashers who say they never helped us, ignoring the Revolution, the Luisiana purchase, and the Statue of Liberty.

And maybe we wouldnt have won the war. There is nothing to suggest it may have not ended the stalemate, however. Both sides suffered huge defeats, Camden, Saratoga, and smaller ones, Cowpens, Brooklynn Heights. No one had the initiative. All the French did was what could have been done in Boston in 1777 if the Americans had a Navy, force the enemy to fight in conditions to the Americans advantage or surrendur. There was no retreating from Yorktown. There COULD have been no retreat from Boston, if the Americans had a Navy to keep them from withdrawing. They tipped the scales to the Americans advantage and helped hand the initiative to the Americans.

But we DIDN'T have a Navy. Just because they didn't do anything remarkable doesn't mean they didn't do anything at all. For example, lets say you are dying in 2 minutes, and you can only live if you drink some water. Let's say I happen to be the only dude with a water bottle within 3 minutes, and I give you some. All I did was something anyone else could of, but no one else was going to.

I disagree. But whatever. You cant be racist against other white people. That is about the dumbest thing I ever heard of.
Anyway, Iraqis are... ARAB!!! French are... WHITE EUROPEANS!! Comparison= fail.

But I'm not SAYING Arabs are camel fuckers, I'm saying people from Iraq is specific are camel fuckers. Nothing race related at all.

I have a problem with people saying France tried to save lives in WWII. They didnt. They were cockbags that signed a treaty with Poland and then left them high and dry. That is the ultimate backstabing action. And Poland contributed VASTLY more to the war than France did. What did they get? The Warsaw Pact and a puppet goverment ruled by the USSR. What did France get? The Marshal Plan and a seat on the Security Council they most definatley didnt deserve or gain for their duplicitious and cowardly actions in WWII.

Sure, the French didn't do shit unless they had to or it benifited them, but SAME WITH THE U.S. We didn't enter the war or make war preperations untill they involved us.

This is fuckin newgrounds. You honestly think I havent seen posts 1000's of times more idiotic thatn this and they were for real?

Yeah, I guess it's not your fault for mistaking the two. God know's I have before. And IMHO, the seriouse "You might be a republican if..." thread was 10 times more seriouse then this, claiming shit that would get people laughed into obscurity if they ever said in real life. Check it out it you want a laugh/shudder =D

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At 4/2/06 12:40 AM, FAB0L0US wrote: They were starving the entire war. Trenton was a HUGE gamble, given. But so was damn near every battle they fought in. Frances involvement didnt change that at all.

France saved our collective asses. Sure, they didn't do too much fighting, but without their supplies(ammunition, weapons, gunpowder, cannons, etc.), we'd be hosed.


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At 3/12/06 07:22 PM, mjairlax wrote:
At 3/12/06 05:08 PM, LettuceClock wrote: ... You think ditching a few day's of Air Force service is impeachable, but spending an entire military term doing jack shit and getting a purple heart for it is commendable.
The swift boat veterans said that the were mis-represented in the ads.

good argument, yet still all he did for the purple heart was twist his ankle.

...Flip-Flopping you're reasons for going into war is horrible, but flip-flopping on EVERYTHING is just fine.
yeh war kills people

bad argument kerry was pro-war in the beginning,

...Accidently shooting your wad on her dress is just fine, but accidently shooting your gun at some guys face is horrible.

i believe he's talking about the dick cheney thing, which was an accident.

...When it comes to the second amendment, you believe we need to completely overide it because these changing times requires it. When it comes to wire tapping however, it goes against the constitution, and it's not like we can just over-rided just because these changing times requires it; that's not how things work.
The times are a changing. Guns in the 1700s the people and the army had the same guns. Today the people have a 9mm the army has Tomahawk cruise missles

ok, so i cant fight our own f*cking army. i can still kill the person trying to rape me, or try to kill a group of terrorists trying to take over my town.

...You think it's inapropriote to teach the theory of creationism since it's completely un-proved and theres no evidence to support it. Instead, you want them to teach the completely un-proved theory with no evidence to support it that say's the exact oppisite.
What about bacteria developing immunities were did they get that? Did god magically give then immunities to penisillion so that they could kill more human?

No educated christian doesn't believe in limited evolution the truth is the evolution
Wolf--Dog happens, and most smart christians will agree, but the evolution
bacteria-fish-frog-monkey-people (or UNlimited evolution) has never in history been proven and still leaves the question, "after the big bang happened and the earth was formed where did the original bacteria come from?"

...It's horrible to expose children to firearms of any type... you know, untill they grow up, join the army, and save you're pussy ass from the guy's with a Turban and a S.T.I.N.G.E.R missle.
Are you high?

WTF kind of argument is this? i shouldn't even reply to this argument!

...When Bush Sr. Meets up with middle eastern dictators whom we later go to war with it makes you sick, but when a Democrate does it it's, once again, "Good foreign relations"
Still makes me sick

again, WTF?

...You think that the Horrible religiouse murders the Isreali's commit are better then the horrible religiouse murders the Palistinians commit because they're our allies.
No they are both wrong and should find a peaceful way

A-freakin-men

...The French are totall pussies, despite the fact that they completely saved our ass in the Revolutionary war. Oh, and the fact that they sold us Luisiana just to strengthen us is the only reason we are a super-power today. Oh, and the fact that while they where fighting to save innocent lives, we ignored Hitlers Genocide of millions of jew's untill it involved us somehow

i thought you were a republican man! some people hate the catholic church for past mistakes, like their no involvement stance with hitler, or hanging scientists, yet all valid issues are by todays standards. today the french are backstabbers and pussies. (also, they anly entered the revolutionary war after we got a major victory, and still only trained some troops, very little fighting)

...When the Northern states, I.E Massachusets and Maine attempt to brake free from they're owners because they want a different form of government and more power it's a gloriouse fight for freedom, but when the southern states do the same thing for the same reasons 100 or so years later, they're horrible racist dicks.
They were

>-< the civil war wasn't over FUC#ING slavery! although slavery was a very large part, the civil war was fought over state's rights, including the right to make it's own laws regarding slavery and the right to succede from the union, the south was right in leaving, for the wrong reasons.

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At 4/2/06 01:20 AM, BFG_Nine-Thousand wrote: France saved our collective asses. Sure, they didn't do too much fighting, but without their supplies(ammunition, weapons, gunpowder, cannons, etc.), we'd be hosed.

I dont want to sound like a dumbass (actually I dont care, fuck that shit) but I am not sure if the French supplies and monetary help are as significant as some claim. I read it all the time but for the life of me I have never been able to find hard figures.

Ive read all about American units taking cannon and supplies from the British and our privateering actions captured craploads of supplies, but I CANNOT find hard numbers for the financial contributions and such by the French. For example.

Because of British policy regarding import of gunpowder, the colonists did not have enough to repel the third British charge at Bunker Hill. A survey by George Washington at the time showed army stockpiles were sufficient for 9 rounds per man. By 1777, the privateers and merchantmen brought in over 2 million pounds of gunpowder and saltpeter.

Privateer John Manley captured the Nancy, supplying the American army with 2,000 muskets, 31 tons of musket shot, 7,000 round-shot for cannon, and other ammunition. Captain Jonathan Haraden from Salem, Massachusetts, who captured 1,000 British cannon, was considered one of the best sea-fighters, successfully taking on three armed British ships at the same time. Privateers captured countless British reinforcements and over 10,000 seamen, keeping them out of the British Navy.
Link

Ive read crap like this in books but I have never seen hard numbers for French contributions. Im sure they were all grand and shit, but I have always wondered if they were not overstated.

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At 4/2/06 01:37 AM, FAB0L0US wrote:
I dont want to sound like a dumbass (actually I dont care, fuck that shit) but I am not sure if the French supplies and monetary help are as significant as some claim. I read it all the time but for the life of me I have never been able to find hard figures.

Basically, they didn't give a set ammount, they gave however much we needed.

Ive read all about American units taking cannon and supplies from the British and our privateering actions captured craploads of supplies, but I CANNOT find hard numbers for the financial contributions and such by the French. For example.

Keep in mind, France gave Firearms other then Cannons. Untill they donated, we used a lot of shitty, un-accurate muskets and rifles.

Because of British policy regarding import of gunpowder, the colonists did not have enough to repel the third British charge at Bunker Hill. A survey by George Washington at the time showed army stockpiles were sufficient for 9 rounds per man. By 1777, the privateers and merchantmen brought in over 2 million pounds of gunpowder and saltpeter.

Privateer John Manley captured the Nancy, supplying the American army with 2,000 muskets, 31 tons of musket shot, 7,000 round-shot for cannon, and other ammunition. Captain Jonathan Haraden from Salem, Massachusetts, who captured 1,000 British cannon, was considered one of the best sea-fighters, successfully taking on three armed British ships at the same time. Privateers captured countless British reinforcements and over 10,000 seamen, keeping them out of the British Navy.
Link

Oh, Americans did great, but all those numbers are pretty insignificant if you think of how much was spent throughout the entire world.

Ive read crap like this in books but I have never seen hard numbers for French contributions. Im sure they were all grand and shit, but I have always wondered if they were not overstated.

No, they where VERY much needed and very much worth the hype. Remember that we where willing to send easily our smartest and most dedicated Patriot in all of America to France to get those supplies.

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At 3/12/06 05:08 PM, LettuceClock wrote: ...Flip-Flopping you're reasons for going into war is horrible, but flip-flopping on EVERYTHING is just fine.

What is this everythin?

...Bombing a Tyonal building in another country because you think they might be terrorists is Okey-Dokey, but going to war with a country because they ARE terrorists is wrong.

So you're saying that every innocent Iraqi is a terrorist?

...Accidently shooting your wad on her dress is just fine, but accidently shooting your gun at some guys face is horrible.

A cum stain is a lot differant to a person dieing

...The Church has absolutely no right to controll any aspect of the U.S government, but the U.S government does have the right to force the church to go against it's very beliefs and let homosexuals get married.

The U.S. government can let gay members of any church get married, they CAN NOT force the church to recognise it.

...When it comes to the second amendment, you believe we need to completely overide it because these changing times requires it. When it comes to wire tapping however, it goes against the constitution, and it's not like we can just over-rided just because these changing times requires it; that's not how things work.

Slack gun control is the reason why thousands of Americans die each year, wire tapping doesn't kill someone.

...You think it's inapropriote to teach the theory of creationism since it's completely un-proved and theres no evidence to support it. Instead, you want them to teach the completely un-proved theory with no evidence to support it that say's the exact oppisite.

The big bang makes alot more sence then creationism.

...It's horrible to expose children to firearms of any type... you know, untill they grow up, join the army, and save you're pussy ass from the guy's with a Turban and a S.T.I.N.G.E.R missle.

This is the exact reason why republican propaganda is retarded (got spelling?)

...The French are totall pussies, despite the fact that they completely saved our ass in the Revolutionary war. Oh, and the fact that they sold us Luisiana just to strengthen us is the only reason we are a super-power today. Oh, and the fact that while they where fighting to save innocent lives, we ignored Hitlers Genocide of millions of jew's untill it involved us somehow

You do realise that Herbert Hoover was a republican?

...When the Northern states, I.E Massachusets and Maine attempt to brake free from they're owners because they want a different form of government and more power it's a gloriouse fight for freedom, but when the southern states do the same thing for the same reasons 100 or so years later, they're horrible racist dicks.

You're a retard.


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At 4/2/06 03:02 AM, TurnipClock wrote:
What is this everythin?

Everything.

So you're saying that every innocent Iraqi is a terrorist?

Is every third world Tyonal factory worker?

A cum stain is a lot differant to a person dieing

That guy didn,t die, and even if he did, it has nothing to do with anything. This happens all the time, no ones fault.

The U.S. government can let gay members of any church get married, they CAN NOT force the church to recognise it.

The U.S government has no right to dictate ANY rules of mirrage, a religiouse action. Just like they can't controll what goes on in a church.

Slack gun control is the reason why thousands of Americans die each year, wire tapping doesn't kill someone.

It's simple; Either you CAN ignore the constitution, and wire-tapping is fine, or you CAN'T ignore the constitution, and people should be allowed guns.

The big bang makes alot more sence then creationism.

No, it doesn't. The theory is as impossible as creationsism. So theres absolutely nothing, then a bunch of gases explode? How the fuck can you even have gas in a bunch of nothingness?

This is the exact reason why republican propaganda is retarded (got spelling?)

But Democratic propaganda is fine?

You do realise that Herbert Hoover was a republican?

...And what in the fuck does this have to do about not French bashing?

You're a retard.

You can't think of a Flaw with what I said, so you insult me. Great, fuck off.

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At 4/1/06 05:43 PM, LettuceClock wrote:
At 4/1/06 05:40 PM, Austrian_Mats wrote:
Yeah, this really happened. There were French SS divisions, who fought against the allieds.
Please, you can't use that against French people. Those where rebel insurgents, and NOT French. The only thing French about them was thier heritage.

Well I'm not using this agaisnt French people, why should I? I mean, being Austrian myself and then critizising the French for following the Nazis? Would be a kind of ridiculous, wouldn't it? I mean there were even russian Waffen SS divisions (which were, by the way, the most brutal ones) But that's no accusation either; they all have been executed anyway :-/


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