Hosting Yourself ?

[DannyIsOnFire]

Ive seen a few topics about this, here and at other sites. But i have never seen a very helpful answer.

According to some it is possible but not reccomended. Why ?

Any help is appreciated.

[FireBred]

At 3/4/06 08:02 AM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: Ive seen a few topics about this, here and at other sites. But i have never seen a very helpful answer.

According to some it is possible but not reccomended. Why ?

I wouldn't say that this is fact, but think of all the possible security risks, I'm sure hosting companies spend hundreds of thousands on firewalling hardware and software etc etc.
Also, my host is currently running on an 15gb/s T1 internet connection for the 9000sites they host. Hosting your own site is bad cause if it gets popular or you have a lot of content on it, your bandwidth (which will maybe be, what? 2mb/s or so?) will be eaten up very quickly and you'll experience a lot of downtime until people stop looking at it and the next 40or so visitors get to look at it and experience loads of lag.

That'd probably be the main two reasons as to why I'd rather not host myself..

Any help is appreciated.

[Inglor]

You need a static IP if you're serious, and to set up nameservers, and a reasonably fast internet connection with a lot of upload stats, after you get that, I suggest you use

http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html

[liam]

At 3/4/06 08:33 AM, Inglor wrote: http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html

I've just set that up, it's really good.. now I don't need to transfer files from my PC to a server to test my PHP - plus it's really easy to use and comes with mySql.

[Inglor]

At 3/4/06 08:57 AM, -liam- wrote: I've just set that up, it's really good.. now I don't need to transfer files from my PC to a server to test my PHP - plus it's really easy to use and comes with mySql.

=) don't forget PERL, an ftp server, and phpMyAdmin

[liam]

At 3/4/06 09:19 AM, Inglor wrote: =) don't forget PERL, an ftp server, and phpMyAdmin

Yeah, all that too ^_^ phpMyAdmins really useful - mySqls fun :D

[Taylor]

At 3/4/06 08:09 AM, FireBred wrote: That'd probably be the main two reasons as to why I'd rather not host myself..

Thats the most uneducated statement I've ever heard. T1? You do realize T1 is under 5mbps with a cap on down from any provider. 15gbps? You're a fucking moron. 9000 sites wouldn't pay for a gigabit line, let alone a (non existant) 15gb connection.
If you've got a strong cable line and a spare box, I don't see any problem with hosting your own site (as long as its very low traffic) on a home line. Otherwise, I'd look into inexpensive shared hosting.

[Taylor]

At 3/4/06 08:49 AM, -Calum- wrote: Yeah, hosting yourself is a bad idea in my opinion, it comes with having to have your computer switched on all the time, low bandwidth limits depending on your internet connection and usually easy to hack.

Thats the most absurd thing I've ever heard - "easier to hack" is completely irrelevant if you're using the latest versions of your software.

inglor

Ftp is a big deal, there are a few good ftp servers for linux but I've never found anything I really liked on windows. Maybe a pureftp-d port?

[FireBred]

At 3/4/06 02:13 PM, PillowBiter wrote:

At 3/4/06 08:09 AM, FireBred wrote: That'd probably be the main two reasons as to why I'd rather not host myself..

Thats the most uneducated statement I've ever heard. T1? You do realize T1 is under 5mbps with a cap on down from any provider. 15gbps? You're a fucking moron. 9000 sites wouldn't pay for a gigabit line, let alone a (non existant) 15gb connection.
If you've got a strong cable line and a spare box, I don't see any problem with hosting your own site (as long as its very low traffic) on a home line. Otherwise, I'd look into inexpensive shared hosting.

A'ight, having read the site I was wrong on the T1, I thought it said that but that was obviously my head. The direct quote from the site is: "We have more than 10 gigabit internet connections with providers including: XO, Cogent, Verio, AboveNet, Time Warner, Williams and Savvis." My mistake, sorry.
Still, it's fast and reliable.

[Ravens-Grin]

It is possible to host by yourself, and using a router like a linksys WRTP54G Router you can configure the router with a DNS server. There are way too many cons against hosting a site by yourself. One is that most ISP's do not allow you to do so, and they can cancel your account if they find out that you are hosting a site. So before you even think about doing this, check your contract with the ISP. Second of all, you just don't get enough bandwidth over a typical asymetric connection. Even though you may download stuff at extreme speeds (200-300 kbps +), your upload to the internet is usually utter crap, around 40-50 kbps upload maximum. There's no way you can provide decent interactive content with that connection.

So overall what everyone is saying is don't.

[Taylor]

At 3/4/06 08:10 PM, FireBred wrote:

At 3/4/06 02:13 PM, PillowBiter wrote:

At 3/4/06 08:09 AM, FireBred wrote: That'd probably be the main two reasons as to why I'd rather not host myself..

Thats the most uneducated statement I've ever heard. T1? You do realize T1 is under 5mbps with a cap on down from any provider. 15gbps? You're a fucking moron. 9000 sites wouldn't pay for a gigabit line, let alone a (non existant) 15gb connection.
If you've got a strong cable line and a spare box, I don't see any problem with hosting your own site (as long as its very low traffic) on a home line. Otherwise, I'd look into inexpensive shared hosting.

A'ight, having read the site I was wrong on the T1, I thought it said that but that was obviously my head. The direct quote from the site is: "We have more than 10 gigabit internet connections with providers including: XO, Cogent, Verio, AboveNet, Time Warner, Williams and Savvis." My mistake, sorry.
Still, it's fast and reliable.

Cogent...
Well, I won't go into that becuase I'm sure theres someone here who would like to fight over it, but I'll say the least that I really do doubt that unless its a major datacenter (I'm talking MAJOR) then they're not pumping a 10gbit solo switch.

Oh well.
Not worth arguing about.

[Inglor]

xampp comes with firezilla, works like a charm