well...i keep thinking about this. for example if i have a song in D Major...do i only use the keys D,E,F#,G,A,B,C#,D? I only use those keys to make my melodies correct? thanks
if you want the song to stay in d major then yes only use those keys. but since music is limitless you can make they key change whenever you want.
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At 3/3/06 07:55 AM, jarrydn wrote: Use whatever sounds awesome to your ears ;)
Nice way to put it :P
The short answer: yes.
Like mhb said, if you want to make a melody that sounds traditionally acceptable and most pleasing to conservative musical ears, sticking to those notes will do that. All of the notes will "fit" with consonance if placed strategically in your song.
To make a song a little different and interesting, experiment with pushing the boundaries of those notes, using them as a loose framework.
To get a good grounding on the idea, visit MusicTheory.net -- an excellent resource.
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first off, there's no such thing as a "correct" melody. Listen to some eric whitacre; that kid is crazy. As for fail-proof melodies, i prefer blues scales. Anything played in them will sound cool.
D blues: D F G G# A C D
Don't rely on theory unless you absolutaley need to, like if your writing a solo or if your writing a pure piano piece. Go by feel, if it sounds good, do it.
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Thus far I've gotten by on 0 theory, and I don't intend on learning any time soon X-)
At 3/3/06 09:26 PM, jarrydn wrote: Thus far I've gotten by on 0 theory, and I don't intend on learning any time soon X-)
Meh, it works.
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At 3/3/06 09:22 PM, -ZENON- wrote: Don't rely on theory unless you absolutaley need to, like if your writing a solo or if your writing a pure piano piece. Go by feel, if it sounds good, do it.
I would respectfully disagree. To go on "feel" without knowledge is almost like relying on luck. The more konwledge you can acquire the better; then you can use that knowledge consciously or unconsciously... meaning your natural tendencies, or your "feel," will be that much more fluid and more enriched. Don't hate on the technical stuff - it can only help you in the long run.
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At 3/3/06 10:25 PM, TritoneAngel wrote:At 3/3/06 09:22 PM, -ZENON- wrote: Don't rely on theory unless you absolutaley need to, like if your writing a solo or if your writing a pure piano piece. Go by feel, if it sounds good, do it.I would respectfully disagree.
Ok.
Don't hate on the technical stuff - it can only help you in the long run.
That is true, but if a note sounds relaly fucking good with the song, but it is not theoretically correct (i dunno, it hasnt happened to me yet) i'd still keep it other than switching with a 'correct' note. Going by feel, what I meant isnt totally going on luck, its playing a note and knowing what should naturally go after it according to the songs structure.
But yeah, your right.
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Totally man -- we're on the same page; I wouldn't say to not play a note because it's not in line with theory (or to play one simply because it's in the scale, etc.) but rather that the more you know what is "supposed to" go somewhere, the more you can play with a listener's expectations by purposely playing off that. Definitely don't be a slave to theory, but rather know it and use it to your benefit... whether by following rules or by screwing with them. That way you can give your music more intention, more empowerment and more... uh... coolness.
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At 3/3/06 10:39 PM, TritoneAngel wrote: That way you can give your music more intention, more empowerment and more... uh... coolness.
You have earned yourself 1,000,000 respect points from Zenon, man.
Well said.
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Music is an art. There are theories that make it sound more pleasing. Sticking to those keys would definately help, or you could use the blues scales, or dilodian scale. There are several different modes. You can even make ur own mode up, become your own man. Theory helps out alot, and basicly, even when you are not using theory to make compositions, when you look real hard, you can still apply theory to why that composition sounds good.
But when it all comes down to it, you want to go with what feels right sometimes. If you think outside of the box once in a while, you come up with something new and different, but not so different that it sounds horrible. Your music is what's in you. Find that.
