middle east aid

[Morextremist]

I've been hearing alot of news about nations giving money to israel and palastine. What logical reason is behind this? Why are nations continuing to fund governments that can't sustain themselves?

[Ramnath]

The EU is giving 143 million dollars to the palistinians before hamas takes over the country. These people are animals and they do not deserve anything more than their utter annihilation. At least the US is not providing these people with aid.

That 143 million is going to be spent on small arms, rockets, explosives, etc. that will be used to kill Israelies.

[HighlyIllogical]

But the US did provide the Palestinians with aid (and most of it went straight to Arafat's coffers...he had nearly a billion US dollars in stolen aid in his swiss bank account). Israel gets aid because it's an ally and a important friend with righteous lobby groups, though some *cough* evangelical christians *cough* have ulterior motives.

[Leeloo-Minai]

At 2/27/06 06:12 PM, mackid wrote: though some *cough* evangelical christians *cough* have ulterior motives.

Care to elaborate? You've got my attention.

Fuck the Middle East. We've been dumping billions of dollars on that crummy hellhole, and how do they repay us?

[lapis]

At 2/27/06 04:03 PM, Morextremist wrote: giving money to israel

Geopolitics. It's in the best interests of the US to maintain a warm bond with Israel since it's one of their few reliable allies in the Middle East, along with Turkey perhaps (although the love for America among the Turkish population seems to be plummeting). That and the Jewish lobby perhaps.

At 2/27/06 04:27 PM, Ramnath wrote: The EU is giving 143 million dollars to the palistinians before hamas takes over the country.

The EU has just decided to give 120 million euros in development aid to be used to pay Palestinian Authority officials, to aid the poorest of the Palestinians and to build up an electricity network. The basic idea is that support for extremists will decline if the Palestinians manage to develop a functioning economy of their own, although a lot of development projects have been frustrated by Israeli armed forces in the past like the Gaza airport which was shut down in 2000 and which had it's runway destroyed in 2001, and the Gaza seaport which was also demolished. So one could wonder whether or not the aid will have a serious positive effect when all that's build is being undone by Israel.

But what's certain is that if the EU and the US don't keep the Palestinian authority alive they'll start looking elsewhere, like in Iran, for cash. A well-functioning Palestinian Authority is the best defense against terrorism and letting it die now serves no real purpose, except losing less money while watching idly how the Palestinians and Israelis strive to make each other's lives as close to hell as possible. But as long as it's not a proven fact that the development aid goes straight into the coffers of militants and guerilleros it's best to keep participating in initiatives that help creating a healthy economy in Palestine.

These people are animals and they do not deserve anything more than their utter annihilation.

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At least the US is not providing these people with aid.

Wrong, the US gave 400 million dollars in development aid to the PA in 2005, although they're now reconsidering their position since Hamas was elected.

At 2/27/06 06:13 PM, Leeloo_Minai wrote:

At 2/27/06 06:12 PM, mackid wrote: though some *cough* evangelical christians *cough* have ulterior motives.

Care to elaborate? You've got my attention.

I think he's talking about Christians who support Israel because they believe that a Jewish state is a necessary prerequisite for the return of Jesus.

[Politics]

At 2/28/06 02:41 PM, Marshall_Law wrote: Fuck the Middle East. We've been dumping billions of dollars on that crummy hellhole, and how do they repay us?

Over simplify much?

In their defense, most of the money spent on the middle east was to fund the iraqy and Afgahnistan wars. The west has a history of abusing the middle east, and The U.S.A. isn't exactly an innocent player in it all. It's just a shame that reckless terrorists shit all over the remaining relations most nations had with the U.S..

Remember, not all Muslims are terrorists, or even middle easterners. I know you didn't say they were, I just wanted to say that for the record.

[LegendaryLukus]

At 2/27/06 04:27 PM, Ramnath wrote: These people are animals and they do not deserve anything more than their utter annihilation

alright I don't mind fair criticism of the funding or how it would be spent, but you cannot call those people 'animals'. What do you know of their lives? On what grounds do you call every palistinian an 'animal'. Now I know you Americans like to be a lot more chummy with your good friends Israel, but you are one day going to have to accept that Palestinians are people too.

[SouthAsian]

Iraq has a 9/11 every month or so because america is there fuggin that ol girl upeh!

[TwO-FaCeD-PaRaNoID]

At 2/28/06 07:57 PM, Captn_ wrote:

Remember, not all Muslims are terrorists, or even middle easterners. I know you didn't say they were, I just wanted to say that for the record.

Believe me they are, atleast the majority, ever saw a burning ambassee?

[SouthAsian]

At 3/1/06 03:24 PM, TwO_FaCeD_PaRaNoID wrote:

At 2/28/06 07:57 PM, Captn_ wrote:

Remember, not all Muslims are terrorists, or even middle easterners. I know you didn't say they were, I just wanted to say that for the record.

Believe me they are, atleast the majority, ever saw a burning ambassee?

the entire muslim population(22% of the worlds people) didnt riot.the muslims in the West didnt riot violently they did peaceful protests.the selct few groups of muslims in the middle east attacked foreign embassies.Like It's been stated before Muslims want to live normal lives and please God,but their are people who dont care and will say whatever they want without regard of what their words will do.

[Begoner]

At 3/1/06 03:24 PM, TwO_FaCeD_PaRaNoID wrote:

At 2/28/06 07:57 PM, Captn_ wrote:

Remember, not all Muslims are terrorists, or even middle easterners. I know you didn't say they were, I just wanted to say that for the record.

Believe me they are, atleast the majority, ever saw a burning ambassee?

No, I don't believe I ever saw a buring "ambassee." Tell me, though, how many people burned that embassy? Was it the majority of Muslims? Did you see half a million people marching in the streets to burn embassies? No. The fact is that only a very small minority are that extremist.

[Denta]

I've heard that Muslims are paying about 1 billion dollars to whoever kills the *cough*infamous cartoon drawer*cough* and that proves that they can support themselves but there are SO MUCH FUCKING ASSHOLES IN THEIR GOVERNMENT, AND I WANT THEREFORE DROP ALL NUKES IN THE WORLD ON THEM!!!

[Giantcomet4]

At 3/1/06 04:16 PM, Dark_Dennis92 wrote: I've heard that Muslims are paying about 1 billion dollars to whoever kills the *cough*infamous cartoon drawer*cough* and that proves that they can support themselves but there are SO MUCH FUCKING ASSHOLES IN THEIR GOVERNMENT, AND I WANT THEREFORE DROP ALL NUKES IN THE WORLD ON THEM!!!

Why do you talk about Muslims as if they were animals? They're still people you know, and like the person before you said, there wasn't half a million people going to burn the embassies down, it was a very small minority. How stupid are you?

[HighlyIllogical]

At 2/27/06 04:27 PM, Ramnath wrote: The EU is giving 143 million dollars to the palistinians before hamas takes over the country. These people are animals and they do not deserve anything more than their utter annihilation. At least the US is not providing these people with aid.

Not animals...but the US gives aid, yes. And the money is being given, in effect, straight to Hamas (the EU money), because Hamas controls the legislature and will soon be in total control.

That 143 million is going to be spent on small arms, rockets, explosives, etc. that will be used to kill Israelies.

Where else would it go?

[Engelsman]

At 2/27/06 04:03 PM, Morextremist wrote: What logical reason is behind this?

Palastine use it to build weapons to destroy israel... and israel use it to stop palatine destroying them.

[Politics]

At 3/1/06 03:24 PM, TwO_FaCeD_PaRaNoID wrote:

At 2/28/06 07:57 PM, Captn_ wrote:

Remember, not all Muslims are terrorists, or even middle easterners. I know you didn't say they were, I just wanted to say that for the record.

Believe me they are, atleast the majority, ever saw a burning ambassee?

Do me a favor and google "Muslim" or even better, Google "Muslim group".

It's wall to wall "news" about terrorism. It really gives you the impression where modern modia is leading the public's thoughts.

[lapis]

At 3/1/06 04:30 PM, mackid wrote: Not animals...but the US gives aid, yes. And the money is being given, in effect, straight to Hamas (the EU money), because Hamas controls the legislature and will soon be in total control.

So? Hamas has been in favour of a long term truce with Israel for some time now and they could restrain terrorism more than Fatah ever could. If they don't then aid should be cut but right now it's far too early to just rule them out as reliable partners.

That 143 million is going to be spent on small arms, rockets, explosives, etc. that will be used to kill Israelies.

Where else would it go?

Infrastructural and educational projects that the IDF love to demolish perhaps?