French-Canadian bigotry at work...

[BigBlueBalls]

First I'd like to start off that I don't want a bash French people thread here. This is just pointing out an example where bigotry is being tolerated by the government and I think ALL Canadians French and English should stand up against this blatent form of discrimination.

A lot of separatists complain about the misdeeds of the English throughout Canadian history. Well now imagine if we had "English Only" clinics that turned down Canadian citizens in desperate need of medical care because they spoke French. I'd say this is bigotry taken beyond another level.

No French? No service!

CORNWALL, ON -- Shirley Ravary doesn't just cough when she catches a cold.

She hacks.

And after suffering a partial lung collapse a few years ago, a common cold doesn't just 'go away' after a few days for the 57-year-old Ontario woman; it gets progressively worse.

So after two weeks of suffering with flu-like symptoms, Ravary needed to see her family doctor. But as she soon found out, she picked the wrong day to drop in for a check-up.

That day, Ravary contacted her doctor's office and was told to visit a nearby community health centre, where he occasionally works.

When she arrived at the centre, she was greeted by a French-speaking receptionist who promptly informed her that the health clinic was exclusively for "French people."

"I said to her, 'that's discrimination,'" said Ravary, who was then told to visit her family doctor during his regular office hours, or visit another walk-in clinic. "I didn't get past the reception at the front."

Worse yet, nobody at the clinic even asked her whether her condition required immediate attention.

"It could have been chest pains," said Ravary. "It could have been anything."

Marc Bisson, the Executive Director of the Centre de Santé communautaire de L'estrie, where Ravary was refused service, defends his clinic's policy. Bisson says it's part of the centre's mandate to target the local French population.

"I don't think it's discrimination at all," said Bisson. "We have policies and a way to work here. Ninety-eight per cent of our clients are Francophone because it's our target population."

The clinic was established 15 years ago specifically to treat the nearly 10,000 Francophones in the small Ontario community, although everyone in the greater community helps fund it.

It turns out the Ontario provincial government agrees with the clinic's exclusive policy.

George Smitherman, Ontario's Health Minister, said in Toronto Tuesday, "We have something called Community Health Centres and they are designed to be community governed, targeting specific populations."

So the next time Ravary feels sick, she'll need to find another clinic for treatment.

Or learn French.

Source: Canada.com

[Raptorman]

Aren't all Canadian clinics publicly funded? If so, what this receptionist was doing was tantamount to government sponsored discrimination and a sacking may be in order.

[TheThing]

i dont think its right. next thing you know, canada will have whites only clinics and everyone else will have to go the the hospital and pay huge amounts

[GunCrave]

Since I don't live in Canada I won't commit on how your policies should be runned, but I have this: you speak french, you have no rights.

[PharaohRamsesII]

Yea, the "French" Quebec is pathetic. The language laws here are absolutely absurd, and even real French people hate "French-Canadians"-- Who speak a 1800's version of French mind you.

[BigBlueBalls]

At 2/23/06 05:04 PM, CadillacClock wrote: Visa Versa depending where you live. Quebec is an almost all French speaking nation. Montreal is extremely indulged in French culture. Every where else is fair game. Maybe I'll just move to Alberta or Calgary where French speaking Canadians take a back seat.

At least you won't run into government sanctioned clinics that would turn someone down because they spoke French. Imagine the outrage among French-Canadians, had this been an "English Only" clinic.

[BFG-Nine-Thousand]

Sigh..

Whatever happened to the cool French?

You know, those no-nonsense Frenchmen that nearly conquered Europe in the early 1800's?

Napoleanic France > Quebec.

[Imperator]

Whatever happened to the cool French?

That's an oxymoron, just like Jumbo shrimp, cold fire, and intelligent president.

[BFG-Nine-Thousand]

Not true, Napolean was a mushroom-cloud-laying badass.

[True-Lies]

That was probably mostly due to his serious case of the small man's complex.

[Memorize]

No wonder they're so looked down upon.

[Der-Ubermensch]

At 2/23/06 05:04 PM, PharaohRamsesII wrote: Yea, the "French" Quebec is pathetic. The language laws here are absolutely absurd, and even real French people hate "French-Canadians"-- Who speak a 1800's version of French mind you.

What the hell are you babbling on about? It's not an 1800's version but a distinct dialect.

Yes, the mentality of the french community is is antiquated and repressive. This incident is a perfect example of such,

[MarkyX]

At 2/23/06 04:05 PM, Raptorman wrote: Aren't all Canadian clinics publicly funded? If so, what this receptionist was doing was tantamount to government sponsored discrimination and a sacking may be in order.

Not all, there is some clinics around here that are private. Quebec and BC holding the majority of them, if not all.

[poxpower]

Wow what a stupid topic title.
Maybe I'll make a "American stupidity at work" next time someone in the U.S. does something I don't like.
You pricks lump most french-speaking people together yet you would never EVER guess I am one unless I told you.
What the fuck is wrong with you people?

Anyways, this sounds like some bureaucratic nightmare bullshit, sometimes the system isn't built to handle exeptions well. Nothing's perfect I guess, but its not like the evil french people are trying to kill all the english because they lost a war 200 years ago.

OR.
WHATEVER.

At 2/23/06 05:04 PM, CadillacClock wrote:

Visa Versa depending where you live. Quebec is an almost all French speaking nation. Montreal is extremely indulged in French culture. Every where else is fair game. Maybe I'll just move to Alberta or Calgary where French speaking Canadians take a back seat.

Wow and there you are, wanting mexicans to learn english if they cross the border when you get outraged at someone being offended by you not even trying to speak the native tongue when you visit or even live in Quebec.
Don't be a douche, if you're going to visit or live someplace, learn a bit of the local colors before whining.

[evilstrawberry]

I really doubt this story is accurate, the receptionist may have not been able to speak french, but in a bilingual hospital they probably know both languages. I am Canadian, and hospitals dont try to make a lot of profit here, they are funded by the government through taxes mostly. I in no way have seen any form of discrimination between english speaking people and french speaking people where I live, but I highly doubt this is an accurate story. Quebec is cool, and so is the rest of Canada, and nobody in Canada would just reject somone like that, Canada was built on non-discrimination and if this in any way was true, im sure that the receptionist got fired.

[evilstrawberry]

With the health care Canada has, I can tell you that there are no private clinics that are for a specific population. In Canada, if you go to a hospital in need of treatment, no matter who you are, you get your treatment and your back on your feet and you dont need to pay for casts, surgery, X-rays, or anything like that

[Gunter45]

At 2/23/06 05:54 PM, BFG_9000 wrote: Not true, Napolean was a mushroom-cloud-laying badass.

Not to mention the fact that he was Corsican. Yeah, France's badass military leader wasn't even French. Also, a good portion of his army wasn't French either.

[BigBlueBalls]

At 2/23/06 10:28 PM, -poxpower- wrote: Wow what a stupid topic title.
Maybe I'll make a "American stupidity at work" next time someone in the U.S. does something I don't like.

Well when some of Quebec's laws, that are bigoted towards English and this is supported by the majority of French-Canadians in Quebec, it's hard to deny that there's not anti-English bigotry rampant among French-Canadians. While I won't deny there are anti-French among English-Canadians, AT LEAST this isn't supported by our government. I made it clear at the beginning that this isn't towards ALL French-Canadians, but the title is certainly made to get some French-Canadian's attention and it looks like it did.

Anyways, this sounds like some bureaucratic nightmare bullshit, sometimes the system isn't built to handle exeptions well. Nothing's perfect I guess, but its not like the evil french people are trying to kill all the english because they lost a war 200 years ago.

No but many separatists would try to remind you of all of the English-Canadian misdeeds throughout history. It's very hypocritical to do, when much of what Quebec does today and situations like this French only clinic, are just as bad if not worse.

Wow and there you are, wanting mexicans to learn english if they cross the border when you get outraged at someone being offended by you not even trying to speak the native tongue when you visit or even live in Quebec.
Don't be a douche, if you're going to visit or live someplace, learn a bit of the local colors before whining.

Is there any laws FORCING Mexicans to learn English or take down their Mexican only signs? No but they'll probably choose to do it for economic reasons because they know most Americans don't speak Spanish. Same with Quebec. If someone who visits Quebec can't speak French, then you're right they shouldn't be whining that they have trouble communicating. If their store doesn't get any business because it has English signs, then that's their own fault as well. Oh but that can't happen because the language police FORCE them to use French in their signs, rather than allow them to choose to do it for economic reasons. Although if the language police didn't, then look out it might get firebombed like that whole "Second Cup" coffee shops incident a while back.

[poxpower]

At 2/23/06 11:03 PM, BigBlueBalls wrote: Well when some of Quebec's laws, that are bigoted towards English and this is supported by the majority of French-Canadians in Quebec, it's hard to deny that there's not anti-English bigotry rampant among French-Canadians.

Its because before the 60's ( and even then) french people were catholic slave workers with 15 kids who worked for rich english people who owned the businesses. Something had to be done, and something was. French laws are just to make sure immigrants who come here to benefit from our cultural diveristy and tolerance don't end up turning this into Ottawa2 because they can't be arsed to learn french.
And english people NEVER respect the french language, everyone expects that everyone should speak english everywhere in Canada. That's absurd. Take a busfull of french people, put one english person in it, and you'll see that everyone will switch to english.
The reason why you're not seing any english-on-french discrimination is because everyone HAS to learn english, but apparently not everyone who lives near french communities returns the favor, so ha, WHINE all you want when people make rules that require you to spend some extra effort.
Don't like it? Leave Quebec.

FYI, I hate french. Its a stupid written language and if you ask me, we'd all be better-off speaking english, but that doesn't mean I don't understand what's what.

but the title is certainly made to get some French-Canadian's attention and it looks like it did.

Yeah no shit its not all-emcompassing. Its just an attention-whorish sensationalist title, way to go.

It's very hypocritical to do, when much of what Quebec does today and situations like this French only clinic, are just as bad if not worse.

Yeah a french-speaking province that asks english people to learn french if they want to live there. Separatists are complaining because earlier in the century, english-speaking people had all the key positions in a french-speaking country. The rulers were NOT the same as the people they ruled, it was WRONG.
Forcing people to learn at least a functional-level of french if they want to live here is COMMON FUCKING SENSE. And if you want to deal with other people who speak french ( 6-7 million in one place ) then you better learn to write it properly and expect to be asked it when you apply for an important job. Its just normal, learn it or GET OUT.

Oh but that can't happen because the language police FORCE them to use French in their signs, rather than allow them to choose to do it for economic reasons. Although if the language police didn't, then look out it might get firebombed like that whole "Second Cup" coffee shops incident a while back.

Look while I agree that violence is retarded, I think we need to put a fucking foot down at some point. Americans and english-speaking people in general have this phobia of being politicaly-incorrect and would NEVER censor anything ( that isn't against governement policy or whatever else...) but we're through with that shit. Fuck that having people come here and do as they please. There's a set of rules, you'll have to follow them if you want to be part of one of the nicest community in the planet. Quebec is a fragile and relatively small french-speaking culture, completely isolated within a sea of english culture, yet we hold our own in most respects, even with our cultural products like movies and whathaveyou, but if we let immigrants ( and we have lots ) just come here and separate into their own little districts and just switch to english, then we'll have no more culture of ours in a century, we'd just be a bowl of Campbell's Chunky soup.
Its going to happen in the U.S. too, except slower since you guys are 50 times more and dominate the planet's culture.

heh.
Just go in Japan and see how many people have french-only shops open there.

[poxpower]

At 2/24/06 12:16 AM, CadillacClock wrote:

Sorry but the ignorance of the language law and oppressive* behaviour held within Quebec is complete and utter bullshit.

oppressive behavior?
Wtf. Big deal having to write your sign in french, OH NO END OF THE WORLD, I HAVE TO WRITE IN FRENCH IN A FRENCH PLACE OMG DIES.

I think if a women comes to you in aid, at a hospital it's pretty darn pathetic to tell them there kind is not excepted.

Look, she got misinformed that's all. Their clinic said to go there, obviously there was not the place to go. She wasn't dying and didn't need to get treated RIGHT AWAY. She was just bounced off to the wrong place at the wrong time, stop pretending like this is some sort of proof of evil french tyrany.
Those people have to follow the regulations or else they get fired, that lady receptionist probably didn't want to risk her job over that shit.

[poxpower]

At 2/24/06 12:41 AM, CadillacClock wrote: She was 57 year old suffering from a two week flu. Sorry but most old people die from less serious illnesses.

If you had been the receptionist at that desk, I guarantee you that you suddenly would be finding tons of great arguments as to why it was perfectly logical to refuse her entry. You're just talking and talking as if this was a war of principles when its about bureaucracy and a woman who didn't want to lose her job over some shit. Hell I bet she even refered her to another clinic.

There are neighbourhoods that don't even speak English and some how there smaller subculture gets along just fine.

Yeah and pretty soon you'll have muslims asking to pass laws for their own arabic districts and, hey, NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT RIGHT, canada wasn't "intended ( as if anyone decided that)" to encroach anyone's freedom to do whatever shit they want!
Only problems can come from an isolated miscrocosm within a city. Its really nice to pretend its harmless cultural diversity, but when even the cops can't understand wtf you're talking about, THERE IS A PROBLEM.
That's what this "let everyone speak what they want" shit will lead to eventualy.

This doesn’t work in Quebec though? I can’t tour Quebec with out being given some bullshit for not speaking there language? That’s crap. It defeats the purpose of trying to live within a multicultural society.

Wtf? Go to any asian country and try to get around by just speaking english. Quebec is one of the nicest and most tolerant place on earth for that, and we have the most lazy and bigoted english people apparently, who can't be arsed to learn french because apparently we're assholes for talking our language in our province. SORRY.

You're blowing this thing out of proportion. The clinic is french-only, and that's how it is, too bad the woman got refered to it, but what can I say? There is bureaucratic incompetence everywhere.

[metalhead676]

well, i dunno, the french canadians hate english speakers anyways....

[MortifiedPenguins]

Well since this is a community Health center and not a private medical practice, in American Law they can't turn anyone down.

Not sure about Canadain Law, but knowing how much more Liberal then we are it's probally the same.

[morefngdbs]

At 2/23/06 11:44 PM, -poxpower- wrote: FYI, I hate french. Its a stupid written language and if you ask me, we'd all be better-off speaking english, but that doesn't mean I don't understand what's what.

;
Look at it as a private club.
Your not a member, and your not dieing so no one helps you.
I truely believe if that woman was in critical shape ie: collapsed ,she would have received prompt attention. She walked in for christ sakes.
But French as a language is now a regional thing.
Quebec french, Parisienne French, Acadian French(there is distinct difference between Cape Breton Acadians and New Brunswick Acadians.
I worked on a commercial in Chetticamp C.B. a couple years ago with a Parisenne
Film maker, a D.o.P. from Montreal and the Gaffer was from Shediac N.B. The rest of us were pretty much english. They were conversing to each other about shot angels, film stop etc. mostly in french with some english for clarification(maybe).
BUT
When we had some technical problems with a high speed camera and the light levels needed ,time to make the shot work with the time available with the amount of raw film in the can. Everyone was speaking English-why- because they could not communicate on a technical level with each other in different forms of french.
So sure they can go to each others places of residence and order the food and make small talk, as well as get their point across easier than a purely english person.
but there are noticeable differences even then.

[DancingTurkeyGod]

At 2/23/06 10:28 PM, -poxpower- wrote: Wow what a stupid topic title.
Maybe I'll make a "American stupidity at work" next time someone in the U.S. does something I don't like.
You pricks lump most french-speaking people together yet you would never EVER guess I am one unless I told you.
What the fuck is wrong with you people?

Don't be a douche, if you're going to visit or live someplace, learn a bit of the local colors before whining.

*claps*
Honestly people, it all comes down to what –poxpower- said: you're taking one incident and stereotyping the rest of the French Canadian population. I think that clinic was in the wrong, but you guys make it seem as though it's like that EVERYWHERE in Quebec.

We're not all separatists, we're not all anti-English and we're not all close-minded to different cultures.

At 2/24/06 12:41 AM, CadillacClock wrote: This doesn’t work in Quebec though? I can’t tour Quebec with out being given some bullshit for not speaking there language?

As much as people say that, French Canadians are very good with switching to English when they notice someone's French is bad. I definitely don't see that same kind of tolerance with English people switching to French....ESPECIALLY outside of the Quebec province.

That’s crap. It defeats the purpose of trying to live within a multicultural society.

Trying to get people to speak French doesn't defeat the purpose of living in a multicultural society. It's not like we're trying to make people convert to a new religion, but simply be exposed and learn a new language. Just look at Montreal - we still have the same bilingual requirements as the rest of Canada and have Bill 101, but it's a very multicultural city.

It's people's attitude towards French that's the real problem. Just look at yourself:

At 2/24/06 07:38 PM, CadillacClock wrote: I know French, it's been forced upon me to learn by our school boards.

"Forced"? You know, I would think that at your age you would be THANKFUL that we have bilingual requirements in our schools, instead of thinking of it as a burden.

As a kid, I was forced to go to a French school and I definitely wasn't happy about it, but I realize now that that's the best thing that could have happened to me. I wouldn't have learned it to the same degree as I know it now (and that's with me living in Montreal) - I can't imagine the rest of Canada being bilingual WITHOUT those French requirements.

You just don't pick up the language as quickly or keep it at the same level of fluency when it's not spoken often in your community. Why should you learn French if it's not spoken often in your community? Well, I've never seen bilingualism as being a burden - if anything, it opens your doors.

Stop whining and be thankful.

The problem with the scenario I described was that I didn't speak my poor French one fucking time only to be disrespected.
Tolerant? You have to be kidding me? Quebec is awful for accepting other cultures with open arms. Or just apparently lazy English Canadians who aren’t accepted?

I'll say this though about the French Canadians: they do have double standards. Believe it or not, but they're MUCH more tolerant towards lazy English Canadians than lazy English Quebecers - to the point that if you speak French with an accent you can never truly be a "real" Quebecer. It's almost like they think that if you go to a French school most of your life, you'll speak French without an accent for sure.

They just don't seem to take people's ability to learn languages and the communities they grew up in into consideration. Obviously, if you live in Vancouver or Calgary, you're French won't be as good as an English Montrealer because you're just not exposed to the language as much - and that's something the French Canadians have to accept. They want French to be spoken as much as English, but the reality is that even with French requirements in schools, it will never be completely equal.

So? It's a debate on Quebec’s racial status towards the rest of the world and more importantly the rest of Canada

Hmm, no. We're debating about a one case incident that has been blown up into a stereotype about Quebec.

And how are we being racist towards the rest of the world? Again, stop exaggerating.

[poxpower]

At 2/24/06 07:38 PM, CadillacClock wrote:

Actually it goes against the constitutional act of Canada on discrimination to pass laws for a specific class. But Quebec already broke that law so why not?

Yeah oh and don't forget all the discrimination against the non-elderly! Fucking assholes over 65 getting away with paying less for the bus. That is NON-CONSTITUTIONAL!!!
omg penis.
Constitutions are a joke.

Sorry, don't come to the rest of Canada (with exception to Montreal) if you can't speak English.

I can speak english. And I agree. No one should go somewhere and not speak the language, that's just godamn tourity.

I know French, it's been forced upon me to learn by our school boards. The problem with the scenario I described was that I didn't speak my poor French one fucking time only to be disrespected.

Yeah lesson learned eh, there's assholes everywhere. I speak pretty good english, and its also been forced onto me by the school. Although a lot of the people who live further away from Ontario can't speak english well at all, so you better speak french if you go there.

The nicest? Do we live in the Orient? No we live in Canada. As far as Canada is concerned that's a disgrace.

Its the same shit buddy. Speak the language or GTFOLOL

Tolerant? You have to be kidding me? Quebec is awful for accepting other cultures with open arms. Or just apparently lazy English Canadians who aren’t accepted?

Yeeeeeeeah we are nice and take-in anyone who's willing to learn french. That's a pretty fucking fair deal if you ask me. And there's TONS of people lined up to get into Canada. And what the hell, "awful for accepting other cultures" you're just making shit up now.

It sounds more like the bigot Quebecers who won't accept the fact that there only ones speaking pure French.

yyyyyyyeaaaaaaah...
We're like 25% of the whole canadian population and live all in the same place, telling us to now keep french is like telling Germany to drop german because they're surrounded by people who don't.

If you're Country is surrounded by English speaking Countries you could at least accept the fact that people are going to speak English in your Country.

If you're going to a french-speaking place, speak french. End.
I don't know where the fuck you're getting that we somehow don't accept people in Canada or in Quebec speaking english, we just ask that as long as you live here, you should learn French and function in French and if you visit, it would be NICE if you made the effort.

It’s a small thing called racial tolerance and respect, Countries in Canada should show it. Well common sense too but who cares about that?

Now everyone has to speak english? That's tolerance and respect to you? What the hell does it have to do with race all of a sudden? What are you talking about?

[poxpower]

At 2/26/06 12:02 PM, DancingTurkeyGod wrote:

We're not all separatists, we're not all anti-English and we're not all close-minded to different cultures.

And if I were to separate, it surely wouldn't have anything to do with speaking english, I am on the internet all day long. Don't tell me I'm not absorbing english culture!

As much as people say that, French Canadians are very good with switching to English when they notice someone's French is bad. I definitely don't see that same kind of tolerance with English people switching to French....ESPECIALLY outside of the Quebec province.

Yup.
we usualy bend over like a bunch of bitches for tourists. But americans and english-speaking canadians in general love to stereotype the french into what thay themselves are: intolerant people who can't be assed to make the tiniest effort to accept others and who demand other bend to their own culture because they outnumber them.

At 2/24/06 07:38 PM, CadillacClock wrote:

"Forced"? You know, I would think that at your age you would be THANKFUL that we have bilingual requirements in our schools, instead of thinking of it as a burden.

Frankly though, I would hate to have to learn french if I had been and english-kid. let's face it: French, In North America, is much less useful than english. But when you want to visit other places, learn the language.

Anyways.

[DancingTurkeyGod]

At 2/26/06 03:57 PM, CadillacClock wrote: It's not the same either way. French in an English school is usually extremely poor. I didn't understand a damn word of French until grade seven. Though, it was taught since grade five none of my teachers actually spoke french. Funny that I could pass up until grade seven with out actually knowing French? It was all textbook work, copy and paste.

Yeah, but English classes in French schools are usually not that great either. French Canadians learn English on their own, not through school.

And French classes don't suck everywhere - it depends on the province you're in (and also reflects that province's open-mindedness to the French language). You know it's bad when everyone you've met from Vancouver has better French than most of the people you've met from Ottawa (don't even get me started with the rest of Ontario)...

[poxpower]

At 2/26/06 03:50 PM, CadillacClock wrote: It's humane though. Where's the humanity in Quebecs language law?

If you're looking for childish, look for someone who accuses a people with 400 years of speaking french to be inhumane because they want to keep their culture.

You're very secular aren't you? You realize Canada is one Country and yet you treat it as though people shouldn't be free to go where they please in it.

Stop saying retarded thing. Wtf that's like "hey in case you haven't noticed, we all live in the same planet, I can go where I want". And wtf you can go where you want, since when did I say you couldn't? Just learn the language, we'll be glad to have you. Stop treating the fact we're a country as if everyone in it should do the same things and live the same way despite different cultural backgrounds.

No thanks.

then.... don't complain?

you're just a douche bag.

you're a clock
>: (
lols

Not really, Toronto and Vancouver have the highest ethnic and minority communities.

so because Toronto and Vancouver have a higher cultural diversity, we're suddenly closed-off to other cultures?
There's not a day you can spend on my campus without going by 20 black people who came straight from Africa. I see many asians, indians, black people around everywhere I live, I think I know if we're evil racists or no. They all seem to love it here, because they made the effort to learn the language.

You're just pissed off because one time one person snapped at you because she/he thought you weren't being polite or respecful and now you're taking it out on an entire province, saying they're racist and fascists and want to destroy canada. Get a grip buddy.

You missed the point. I'm saying you need to tolerated those who don't speak the same language within the same Country. Apparently, the concepts to complicated?

We are tolerant. As its been said like 30 times already, we even all already speak english, as opposed to english speaking people, who don't speak french most of the time. Who's not tolerant now? When we visit the english-speaking provinces, we speak english out of curtesy. Can't get nicer than that. But when you're on our soil, french is the language we function it, so your kids better learn it and you better use it. Fair enough if you ask me.

Again, you're a secular thinker who thinks we should bar off Canadian provinces from each other. That's a great concept! Hey, I think the Greeks used that before they were conquered.

Hi, go read an history book, and then name two important imperialistic countries who conquered the new world during the 17th century.
Quebecers are not the same as the rest of north-america. That's a fact. If YOU don't respect that, YOU are the intolerant one, quite obviously. The rest of Canada is just a mirror to the States now. There is no "Canadian" culture, but there is still a "french-canadian" one, and there will be as long as the french language is kept, because it allows our own artists and stories to circulate along the american's. Different languages mean different ways of thinking also, and its quite obvious your only wish is that we just let nature take its course and lose that through our decreasing birth rate and climbing immigration.
Well anyways I can't say I would give a shit, but you have to understand why there is a law to preserve french and why Quebec is NOT the same as the rest of Canada, no matter how much pixie dust you snort.

I'm saying you should accept other cultures. It is racial when we look at ethnic cultures coming in.

Hum we do accept other cultures.
They just have to speak french. If you think that's an infringment on any kind of magic special rights you decided to grant other people, then that's just too bad, but there is not god-given principle that says we can't make a law to preserve our culture.

I done with this disscussion, you made yourself sound like to much a douche bag for me to care.

Oh wow look at the big man, insulting me back but quitting in my face because suddenly he's too great for me.
Get
a
clue.

[poxpower]

At 2/26/06 03:57 PM, CadillacClock wrote:

Didn't you just point out that I shouldn't be allowed into Quebec unless I speak french fluently?

wow I thought you were done with me, guess not eh, I still have to suffer the wrath of The Man who Doth Need Reading Glasses (tm).
I said you can come, but learn our language out of courtesy.
You can go wherever the fuck you want buddy, just don't whine because other people don't want to switch to YOUR prefered language when you're in THEIR country/province.

It was all textbook work, copy and paste.

Yeah we have this around here too. Poor english being taught. And we also have people who don't speak french come in those parts and suddenly don't understand why they are being treated badly by peope who can't speak more than 5 words of english after 4 years of school.