A justified war?

[PCpr0gramer]

Since the invention of the bomb, notably those of the atomic kind--Can there ever be a "just" war? What would define such a war? Just attacking the military? Where would that get us? What would it really take to get world peace? Africa is in termoil...how can we get it out of poverty?
Good luck giving me answers.

[dELtaluca]

At 2/22/06 07:10 PM, PCpr0gramer wrote: Africa is in termoil...how can we get it out of poverty?
Good luck giving me answers.

we could ofcourse just wipe africa off the face of the earth, dead people cant live in poverty

[GunCrave]

At 2/22/06 07:10 PM, PCpr0gramer wrote: Since the invention of the bomb, notably those of the atomic kind--Can there ever be a "just" war? What would define such a war? Just attacking the military? Where would that get us? What would it really take to get world peace? Africa is in termoil...how can we get it out of poverty?
Good luck giving me answers.

Well kiddies............

[Politics]

At 2/22/06 07:43 PM, 1WingedDragon wrote: Well kiddies............

OGM UR KLEAVARZ

Of course there can be a just war, in a sense of overall agreement in the justification of it. But because justification is opinionive, it depends on the individual people.

[MortifiedPenguins]

It has to be a justified war, simple as that.

In a Christian Religous sense, war is supposed to be avoided but protecting human lives and defending important morals is sometimes needed by force.

http://www.bbc.co.uk..cs/war/jwcause.shtml

http://www.bbc.co.uk..jwintro2.shtml#means

http://www.bbc.co.uk..cs/war/jwintro.shtml

[fahrenheit]

There has been no justified war in human history, or atleast a war that hasnt been somewhat profitable and the main reason they went was for the rewards and not the justification.

[Imperator]

Since the invention of the bomb, notably those of the atomic kind--Can there ever be a "just" war?

???
I guess every war since the invention of the bomb would be justified then, because we didn't get carried away and blow the shit out of the Earth. This has got to be one of the worst statements I've ever heard.

Either re-phrase, or make some sense!

[phantom794]

it isnt a just war, it isnt ethically right to go wipe out a continent, not being picky but for instance China wiping out africa, for what, and all countries would go against this and start a war

[TwO-FaCeD-PaRaNoID]

the opium war was the most justified for me

[animehater]

At 2/22/06 10:32 PM, Velocitom wrote: the main reason they went was for the rewards and not the justification.

The rewards are the justification.

[PCpr0gramer]

At 2/23/06 03:23 PM, ThinksWithBrain wrote:

At 2/22/06 10:32 PM, Velocitom wrote: the main reason they went was for the rewards and not the justification.

The rewards are the justification.

Jus•ti•fi•ca•tion Noun. Something, such as a fact or circumstance, that justifies: considered misgovernment to be a justification for revolution.

Do the ends justify the means, if the rewards do not outweigh the consequences the war cannot be just.

[TheThing]

depends on what way you look at the war. soem people think that iraq is a just war. i personally disagree. aobut that african thing, we need ot build a time machine, and go back to stop england and such from stealing resources from these now poor ocuntries. they have no goods to trade, so they cant get teh stuff we get. like money. and fruit year-round

[PCpr0gramer]

At 2/23/06 03:36 PM, thething69 wrote: depends on what way you look at the war. soem people think that iraq is a just war. i personally disagree. aobut that african thing, we need ot build a time machine, and go back to stop england and such from stealing resources from these now poor ocuntries. they have no goods to trade, so they cant get teh stuff we get. like money. and fruit year-round

I agree. Africa is in an endless resource loop, much like the farmers were in the depression. Infertile soil, goods, but no money to buy them with. There just plain isnt enough money, and doing work within the country will not work. They need exports and they just dont have them. Their government is the only one that could save them and sadly the government wont. America needs to kick in, and help them get exporting what little resources they have. We owe them that much, after stealing their people for hundreds of years.

[Demosthenez]

At 2/22/06 10:32 PM, Velocitom wrote: There has been no justified war in human history, or atleast a war that hasnt been somewhat profitable and the main reason they went was for the rewards and not the justification.

So if you gain something from a war, its unjustified.

Wow, that is retarted.

Try teling that to, say, the American patriots who started the Revolutionary War. Tell that to British who defended them from anhilation agains the Nazis in WWII. Tell that to the Vietnamese who fought against the French and then the Americans. Tell that to the UN forces who got involved in Kuwait to free them from Iraq.

[PCpr0gramer]

Try teling that to, say, the American patriots who started the Revolutionary War. Tell that to British who defended them from anhilation agains the Nazis in WWII. Tell that to the Vietnamese who fought against the French and then the Americans. Tell that to the UN forces who got involved in Kuwait to free them from Iraq.

But that was due to a prior attack, they regained what they had lost. They did not acquire anything new.

[SolInvictus]

At 2/23/06 08:50 PM, PCpr0gramer wrote:

Try teling that to, say, the American patriots who started the Revolutionary War. Tell that to British who defended them from anhilation agains the Nazis in WWII. Tell that to the Vietnamese who fought against the French and then the Americans. Tell that to the UN forces who got involved in Kuwait to free them from Iraq.

But that was due to a prior attack, they regained what they had lost. They did not acquire anything new.

false, the allies and the Russians acquired much more land after WWII, east and west Germany, or at the very least expanded their control and influence.
the patriots took land from the British (and later they took even more from the natives, but thats different)
the Vietnam war was a mess is all that can be said (it should've just been left to the Vietnamese from the start)
the defence of Kuwait was the fairest but one of the main reasons was to make sure that the oil was secure