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Response to Death Penalty? 2006-02-21 21:52:04 Reply

At 2/21/06 09:12 PM, thecheeseisblue wrote:
At 2/21/06 09:08 PM, blizace wrote: for it, because i beleive eye for an eye and all that crap
An eye for an eye? So, that would work if they were a murderer, but ithe death penalty kills rapists too.If it were really an eye for an eye a rapist would not be killed, the system is not truly fair in that respect.

Why not do a rifle execution and get it over with, it would not only save the state money but get rid of him for good.

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Response to Death Penalty? 2006-02-21 22:02:18 Reply

At 2/21/06 09:52 PM, PsychoPilot wrote:
At 2/21/06 09:12 PM, thecheeseisblue wrote:
At 2/21/06 09:08 PM, blizace wrote: for it, because i beleive eye for an eye and all that crap
An eye for an eye? So, that would work if they were a murderer, but ithe death penalty kills rapists too.If it were really an eye for an eye a rapist would not be killed, the system is not truly fair in that respect.
Why not do a rifle execution and get it over with, it would not only save the state money but get rid of him for good.

Rifle ammunition costs money. Just go at him with a Machette. That way you only need to buy a single weapon and a single grindstone for maybe a decade of executions.

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Response to Death Penalty? 2006-02-21 22:10:59 Reply

Although commiting a murder is a monstrous crime we should not stoop as low as the killers who commit that crime and kill them, as for exicuting them just to get rid of them does not make sense to me if you kill them then they no longer have to live in a 8 x 4 cell, but if u do not exicute them then they will get punished for their crime, in the sense that they will have to live in poor conditions, and possibly most probably have unwanted sexual intercourse. Also you put them under maximum security and never let them see sunlight again, if you kill them then they dont have to go through all these things, they just dont have to deal with them. I am deffinitly against the death penalty

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Response to Death Penalty? 2006-02-21 22:22:44 Reply

At 2/21/06 10:02 PM, Draconias wrote:
Why not do a rifle execution and get it over with, it would not only save the state money but get rid of him for good.
Rifle ammunition costs money. Just go at him with a Machette. That way you only need to buy a single weapon and a single grindstone for maybe a decade of executions.

Great idea no mess involved, he can spend his solitary confinment in hell or darkness.

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Response to Death Penalty? 2006-02-21 22:29:54 Reply

why do ya'll think its not okay to kill them but keep them in a place where they get raped by other guys and eat bread and water for the rest of their lives? im with it, but the highest should be life in prison.

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Response to Death Penalty? 2006-02-21 22:31:47 Reply

At 2/21/06 09:12 PM, thecheeseisblue wrote:
At 2/21/06 09:08 PM, blizace wrote: for it, because i beleive eye for an eye and all that crap
An eye for an eye? So, that would work if they were a murderer, but ithe death penalty kills rapists too.If it were really an eye for an eye a rapist would not be killed, the system is not truly fair in that respect.

Oh yeah the death penalty doesnt effect rapists unless there is brutal murder involved.

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Response to Death Penalty? 2006-02-21 22:39:49 Reply

At 2/21/06 10:29 PM, nidhoggspride wrote: why do ya'll think its not okay to kill them but keep them in a place where they get raped by other guys and eat bread and water for the rest of their lives? im with it, but the highest should be life in prison.

Being able to be alive makes them thrive for the life sentence, If you murdered a bunch of people with a sledge hammer would you want the death sentence or the life sentence.

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Response to Death Penalty? 2006-02-22 17:25:15 Reply

Against it. Nobody has the right to kill people, not even the goverment.


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Response to Death Penalty? 2006-02-22 18:42:37 Reply

At 2/21/06 10:31 PM, PsychoPilot wrote:
Oh yeah the death penalty doesnt effect rapists unless there is brutal murder involved.

It can, the death penalty isn't only for murderers, look it up sometime.

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Response to Death Penalty? 2006-02-23 09:36:18 Reply

I'm not sure whether I'm for or against the death penalty.
Supporting the death penalty would also mean supporting corporal punishment in schools, and somehow I don't like that idea.
A lot of people believe in the 'eye for an eye' value which I suppose I do think is acceptable, but I think some people should be given second chances, then again would I forgive a rapist or murderer?
Its a tricky subject. The Lethal Injection seems to lack in purpose, yes its humane but it gives murderers/rapists an easy escape, no pain or suffering such like that of their victims.
Better to leave them rotting in their prison cells for all eternity would seem fair in a sense, but these days prisoners have so many 'rights' and you here of them wasting the tax payers money with games consoles and a good enviroment, that hardly sounds like justice. There is also these 'life-sentences' to consider, these are by no means fair on the victim or families of victims if the rapist/murderer is realised in 20 years.
Yes, these convicts could be altered, reformed , changed people but if there was enough evil in them to commit such a horrendeous crime then maybe it'll never go away and they will never be able to live in society peacefully. Maybe it would be better to execution them?

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Response to Death Penalty? 2006-02-23 09:54:21 Reply

People that fall so far that they are willing to violently murder or rape for personal gain (not self defense, fear or war) have already fallen beyond redemption. They can no longer be trusted. Maybe they deserve some mental help, but they should never see the light of day again. They have committed a forbidden crime and can no longer be trusted. They had a child molester on the news the other day that was living in my area that had "reformed". He was saying that he was a good man now, and that all he wanted was to live a normal life and to have a family and kids of his own. Less then a month after that he raped a woman.

These people do not get better. In my opinion they lost their rights the moment they killed someone for personal gain. I don’t care if they live the rest of their life in prison (and I don’t mean 20 years of good behavior. I mean until the day they die) or be given the death penalty. Whatever is cheaper.

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Response to Death Penalty? 2006-02-23 13:49:20 Reply

I do not believe there should be any moral problems involved with the death penalty, as long as the criminal is completely guilty of committing crimes such as murder. If the guy committed such heinous crimes, that guy is an asshole. If he think it is okay to take other people's life, then there should be no problem in taking away his. He is not worthy of being spared. We should not let him live simply on the basis of "oh no! it would be mean to kill him!" Who gives a shit about him? Let him fry.

Cost issues involved with death penalty vs. life sentence are just annoying. Even if the death penalty is indeed more expensive, it should not be banned just for that.