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At 2/19/06 10:52 AM, AtomicTerrorist wrote: muslims make fun of everyone else all the time, everyone makes jokes about every culture and every religion, but for some reason they get really pissed about a cartoon about their prophet and start blowing places up for it...

Well the paper that posted the cartoon in my country originally, said that they did so to piss muslims off. And the paper felt that the muslims should just take it like a man even though the paper disgraced their prohet and generalized about them all being terrorists.

Fucking Jyllands posten.

At 2/19/06 10:47 AM, mackid wrote: TrendWhore wrote:

Wouldn't you be a zionist...

That's why I'm a zionist, considering the fact that I'm a Jew. We have a distinct culture, so we deserve our own nation. Unlike the Palestinians...

The palestinians are there own culture, don't you dare to deny that. Jews have no culture, they lost it when they got scattered and mixed around the world. All your "food" is actually middle eastern, arabic, turkish and iranian. For a short period of time i remeber they tried to imatate the traditional palestinian cloths and cliam it their own, but then the arb-isrealie's exposed them, and they stopped. As far as "culture", your as much as a culture as any other relegion, no more or less.

At 2/19/06 10:46 AM, mackid wrote:

At 2/19/06 10:44 AM, RedGlare wrote: Not very many European Jews though

Nope, there are very few european jews (a few in the UK but not many elsewhere)

According to the 2001 Census Of the United Kingdom, 267,000 people classified themselves as being Jewish. 197,000 of these Jews live in Greater London.

I would say that's more than a few Jews.f

At 2/19/06 10:47 AM, darklad wrote:

At 2/19/06 10:34 AM, RedGlare wrote:

same exact excuses can be used for the muslims, for instance the Chechens do it just to try to liberate their lands from harsh russian rule.

Actually there are 2 terrorist movements in Chechnya one is nationalist in nature. The other beliefs in creating an islamic super state in the caucasses the Beslan Terrorists were from the latter.

Sudanese rebels did it as civil war, and slaughtered other muslims, for tribal and terratorial dispute, not relegious. Iraq are fighting for there country, wether you agree on what they do or not, they seem to believe armed resistance is the way to go for freeing a country,

And some seem to think kill Shia' and Kurds is the only way to. Remember in the first thread about the Danish cartoon where i told you in power vaccums everyone grabs for power well in Iraq there killing each other to get it. They already have a provisional government so its not about freedom its control these factions are after.

etc. etc. Bin Laden is just trying to expliot islam to get soppurt to help him fight america for his own problems with it in the cold war times when america made taliban.

Bin Laden isn't exploiting anything he's a money man he doesn't even know where his funds go the only reason hes masters made him a figurehead is because America wen't after him. And the taliban blame America because there Islamic revolution as it was called failed and they needed someone to blame.

Iran makes fun of the holocoast because they don't believe it happened, and that the zionists made it up for world soppurt, and note they made it AFTER the mohammed cartoons not before, to prove a piont as well, how differant relegions are treated differantly.

I think you'll find stuff like that was made since Israel was created those were just recent examples and what point are they making how intolerant they can be or that there better then the Danes at making people sick or making crap cartoons

At 2/19/06 11:01 AM, GangsterRapper wrote:

At 2/19/06 10:46 AM, mackid wrote:

At 2/19/06 10:44 AM, RedGlare wrote: Not very many European Jews though

Nope, there are very few european jews (a few in the UK but not many elsewhere)

According to the 2001 Census Of the United Kingdom, 267,000 people classified themselves as being Jewish. 197,000 of these Jews live in Greater London.

I would say that's more than a few Jews.f

Out of a population of 56+million i'd say that is a few jews and compare to the European census in Europe plus i was saying not many Jews here are Zionists.

At 2/19/06 11:03 AM, RedGlare wrote:

Actually there are 2 terrorist movements in Chechnya one is nationalist in nature. The other beliefs in creating an islamic super state in the caucasses the Beslan Terrorists were from the latter.

they went to islam because there the only one's that give them soppurt let alone look at them.

And some seem to think kill Shia' and Kurds is the only way to. Remember in the first thread about the Danish cartoon where i told you in power vaccums everyone grabs for power well in Iraq there killing each other to get it. They already have a provisional government so its not about freedom its control these factions are after.

there is no such thing as "civil war" in iraq, let me give you this first hand, that is not true, if it was their would already be hundereds thousands dead, all they seem to target are american/western targets. This was just made up to give the americans more reason to stay. And i agree on what you say about the power vacuum. The americans made the stupidest thing, now that the Shia have controll, they WILL befriend Iran, and make a new nutty iranian state, they already sent deplomats to iran and both top leaders exchanged talks.

Bin Laden isn't exploiting anything he's a money man he doesn't even know where his funds go the only reason hes masters made him a figurehead is because America wen't after him. And the taliban blame America because there Islamic revolution as it was called failed and they needed someone to blame.

not really, theres more than that, the US made promises to Taliban that they never fullfilled and so on, much more complicated.

I think you'll find stuff like that was made since Israel was created those were just recent examples and what point are they making how intolerant they can be or that there better then the Danes at making people sick or making crap cartoons

no idea, iran is crazy like that i guess...

At 2/19/06 11:01 AM, GangsterRapper wrote:

At 2/19/06 10:46 AM, mackid wrote:

At 2/19/06 10:44 AM, RedGlare wrote: Not very many European Jews though

Nope, there are very few european jews (a few in the UK but not many elsewhere)

According to the 2001 Census Of the United Kingdom, 267,000 people classified themselves as being Jewish. 197,000 of these Jews live in Greater London.

I would say that's more than a few Jews.f

Ok, ok...but still, compared to millions of Israeli and american jews, it's not much, but we need all the jews we can get!

I just figured that if your human and moving you will quickly turn to violance to settle anything.

At 2/19/06 11:14 AM, darklad wrote:

At 2/19/06 11:03 AM, RedGlare wrote:

they went to islam because there the only one's that give them soppurt let alone look at them.

How does joining a movement that has vowed to purge the caucauses of all no islamic virtues and unite the arab lands and do the same things there supportive if anything thats a genocidal form of zionism. Plus Beslan isn't Russia its a nation similar to chechnya and wants independance but hasn't shed blood so the only reason they could target the school can't be because they were russian.

The americans made the stupidest thing, now that the Shia have controll, they WILL befriend Iran, and make a new nutty iranian state, they already sent deplomats to iran and both top leaders exchanged talks.

To be fair Iran and Iraq did gas and use chemical weapons on each other when the west were supplying them. And i'm guessing you don't like Shia muslims last i heard the only difference is they supported mohammeds brother and have a different prayer. Iguess your sunni.

At 2/19/06 11:32 AM, RedGlare wrote:

How does joining a movement that has vowed to purge the caucauses of all no islamic virtues and unite the arab lands and do the same things there supportive if anything thats a genocidal form of zionism.

wait, what movement? you lost me here, i said they used there muslim connections to score money and assistance.

To be fair Iran and Iraq did gas and use chemical weapons on each other when the west were supplying them. And i'm guessing you don't like Shia muslims last i heard the only difference is they supported mohammeds brother and have a different prayer. Iguess your sunni.

i'm actually part kurdish, and i soppurt none, i'm a liberal, and non relgious, these idiots want to take us back in time instead of forward, i have nothing against shia, there no differant, just a couple of teachings away, but i despise relegious extremists, i'm a strong muslim but i'm not a nut, i live my life normally, doesn't mean i don't pray and hold islamic teachings dear, but i don't go letter to letter, word to word

It is a certain fact that not all Muslims are terrorists, but it is equally certain, and exceptionally painful, that almost all terrorists are Muslims.

Dumbass. Look up the word terrorism

At 2/19/06 10:36 AM, RedGlare wrote:
What about the holocaust cartoon competion. And Hitler in bed with Anne frank is that making fun of Zionists? True they were started in Iran but they received entries alover the world.

Yeah, but they also recieved a lot of condemnations, more from the west though.

At 2/19/06 10:47 AM, mackid wrote:

That's why I'm a zionist, considering the fact that I'm a Jew. We have a distinct culture, so we deserve our own nation. Unlike the Palestinians...

omg, lol, i can't believe you just brought that up here.... take that to the ask questions about isreal thread, i don't feel like arguing with you about that here.

lol you say that jsut cause you saw that movie? i saw it 2 times, it kicked ass, and iraq's and arabs arent evil jjust cause they are arab or iraqi yu dam racist :(