Christianity is fundamentaly flawed

[Fim]

Jesus was a jew.

edn.

[happysack1]

I'm so sick of things like this it's not clever or cool!!!!!!!!!!!!

You don't present an arguement Christianity isn't anti-semetic half of our faith is made up of what the jews think in future spend some time contomplating an arguement before sharing your ignorance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt"- unknown

[Fim]

At 2/18/06 08:30 AM, happysack1 wrote: I'm so sick of things like this it's not clever or cool!!!!!!!!!!!!

wow, a shitload of excalmation marks. convincing.

You don't present an arguement Christianity isn't anti-semetic half of our faith is made up of what the jews think in future spend some time contomplating an arguement before sharing your ignorance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

more exclamation marks. I'm impressed.

"Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt"- unknown

ha ha ha. a noob. and a nooby quote. How amusing, somebody ridiculing someone else because they pose a point that has been made many times before, yet then they go and use one of the oldest, most overused quotes ever used. Hypocritcal,

Hey, I gotta quote for ya "wise men speak quotes, fools repeat them" - Newground_Freak - 2005

I wins!

[x-Toadenalin-x]

At 2/18/06 08:23 AM, Newground_Freak wrote: Jesus was a jew.

How does that make Christianity fundamentally flawed? Can you point out exactly where the contradiction lies? Jesus would have regarded himself as a Jew, and no Christian is going to seriously deny Jesus was a Jew

The fundamental difference between Christians and Jews is that Jews are waiting for the Messiah, whereas Christians believe He has already come in the form of Christ.

No contradiction

edn

[RedGlare]

At 2/18/06 08:23 AM, Newground_Freak wrote: Jesus was a jew.

edn.

And after he died and rised up into heaven the disciples gavered togather were the holy spirit visited them proclaiming Jesus to be our savour and urged them to spread the word and bring salvation tto the world.

Your arguement is fundementaly flawed.

edn.

[N-Antichrist]

At 2/18/06 08:30 AM, happysack1 wrote: I'm so sick of things like this it's not clever or cool!!!!!!!!!!!!

You don't present an arguement Christianity isn't anti-semetic half of our faith is made up of what the jews think in future spend some time contomplating an arguement before sharing your ignorance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt"- unknown

why the hell should i listen to someone who likes his shift and 1 combination too much?

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all religions are flawed, except buddhism

[Trendwhore]

At 2/18/06 08:43 AM, Noob-Antichrist wrote:

all religions are flawed, except buddhism

How so?

[Battlefront-Ryoko]

yha but.. yha he was a jew.

[RedGlare]

At 2/18/06 09:33 AM, Battlefront_Ryoko wrote: yha but.. yha he was a jew.

I'm sorry but yha whats your point?

[Imperator]

At 2/18/06 08:43 AM, Noob-Antichrist wrote: all religions are flawed, except buddhism

And they say Christians are the intolerant ones.........
Guess some Buddhists have the "my religion is better than yours!" attitude too.......

[GunCrave]

All beliefs are flawed, except agnosticism because they're the only ones who aren't sure and the others require faith to believe. Well, that's my two cents.

[DemonHide]

Well, I am a dedicated Athiest (so much that if you refer to my Dimensional Analysis Postulate you will see at what lengths I have gone to come up with a scientific reason for the nonexistence of "God") but I really don't mind if you are religious. It's just that more people have been killed directly and indirectly because of religion and that number is way too high to count. So, religion teaches morals but kills a lot of people in the process because of it's blindning effect on everyone including Athiests.

[Joshpow]

Of course they do, why would they follow it if they didn't think it was better?

[GunCrave]

At 2/18/06 01:29 PM, DemonHide wrote: Well, I am a dedicated Athiest (so much that if you refer to my Dimensional Analysis Postulate you will see at what lengths I have gone to come up with a scientific reason for the nonexistence of "God") but I really don't mind if you are religious.

Umm, in your infallible, new aged, mathematical equation you pioneered because modern ones are inadequate, you misplaced where the brackets are supposed to be. Nice job.

[TwO-FaCeD-PaRaNoID]

At 2/18/06 01:29 PM, DemonHide wrote: Well, I am a dedicated Athiest (so much that if you refer to my Dimensional Analysis Postulate you will see at what lengths I have gone to come up with a scientific reason for the nonexistence of "God")

God does exist, it's about the support someone can have(i have) from God. God will always listen to you. And if you think he doesn't answer, you can still believe that all good is coming from god. In one way or another.
And even if God wouldn't exist, and is only a tale, he would still be there for me and for so many other people( 2/3 of the world believes in God, 2 billion CHristians and almost 2 billion muslims) so you can never say He doesn't exist!

its like having an immaginary friend, but then in a more Ratianol way.

And i have another proof for the existance of God, but i wont bother you with that one.

[MoralLibertarian]

At 2/18/06 08:23 AM, Newground_Freak wrote: Jesus was a jew.

Most early Christians were.

Wow, wait to be special.

[Politics]

At 2/18/06 08:23 AM, Newground_Freak wrote: Jesus was a jew.

edn.

If he were Christian, and worshipped himself, he'd be...well, you.
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At 2/18/06 08:36 AM, Newground_Freak wrote: Hey, I gotta quote for ya "wise men speak quotes, fools repeat them" - Newground_Freak - 2005

I wins!

lol

I appreciate irony.

[Me-Patch]

Not one Nazi yet, I'm starting to gain a little faith in this forum.

[GunCrave]

At 2/18/06 06:40 PM, The_Tank wrote: Not one Nazi yet, I'm starting to gain a little faith in this forum.

*Ahem* You forgot about me.

Lol, j/k

[Gorgorothx]

Christianity is one of those things, it shares something with all religions in that... they are NO LONGER RELEVANT... TWO RELIGIONS I BELIEVE ARE TRUE TO BEHOLD ARE: Me, and Now.

[Werewolf91]

Why is there always that one guy (or even more than one guy) that will go, "omfg relygin iz t3h sux"? It adds nothing to the conversation; then again, it's kind of hard to add anything to this conversation.

Jesus was a Jew; how the fuck does that make Christianity flawed? Christ, according to Christianity, was the Messiah and a man who was supposed to be King of the Jews and the Jewish religion; but he got rejected by other Jews who would not fallow him. He came to expand upon Judaism and teach a kinder message and strike down the Jewish cultural laws which had been elavated to the same level as God's laws. Christians (at least, ones that know about their religion) see Christ as not only the Messiah, King of the Jews and/or the Son of God, but as a prophet who came to expand upon/correct Judaism.

[TwO-FaCeD-PaRaNoID]

even if jesus was a chineese it wouldn't matter to me... it's about the message, not the messenger.

[Drah]

At 2/18/06 07:49 PM, Gorgorothx wrote: Christianity is one of those things, it shares something with all religions in that... they are NO LONGER RELEVANT... TWO RELIGIONS I BELIEVE ARE TRUE TO BEHOLD ARE: Me, and Now.

happy first post :-)

you belive yourself to be a religion?
talk about ego.

[Explodapop]

At 2/18/06 08:53 PM, Werewolf91 wrote: Why is there always that one guy (or even more than one guy) that will go, "omfg relygin iz t3h sux"? It adds nothing to the conversation; then again, it's kind of hard to add anything to this conversation.

Cause it's half way true. Relgion is good for something and horrible for other things.. and if people wish to only see their own points then "omfg religion sux". Religion is great for building a great community and spirit among people, bonding them closer together. People become calmer knowing where we came from and where we go, no harm in that, although you can't prove the stories.. it is belief that counts. However, using religion to earn money (catholic church in medieval times), to wage war and supress people and remove happyness from their lives is just plain wrong.
Depends on the people using the belief system really.

[Drah]

At 2/19/06 04:49 AM, TwO_FaCeD_PaRaNoID wrote: even if jesus was a chineese it wouldn't matter to me... it's about the message, not the messenger.

quoted.

[TwO-FaCeD-PaRaNoID]

hahha i didn't even see that it was in your persenal message

[Werewolf91]

At 2/19/06 04:49 AM, TwO_FaCeD_PaRaNoID wrote: even if jesus was a chineese it wouldn't matter to me... it's about the message, not the messenger.

Uh, his message was one that expanded upon Judaism like other Jewish prophets. Non-jews didn't generally have as much knowledge of Jewish practices as the Jews did. So a Chinese Jesus wouldn't probably have the exact same message or influence that we see today. Jesus wouldn't be the Messiah if he was Chinese, the Messiah is supposed to be a Jew.

[Werewolf91]

At 2/19/06 04:55 AM, Explodapop wrote:

At 2/18/06 08:53 PM, Werewolf91 wrote: Why is there always that one guy (or even more than one guy) that will go, "omfg relygin iz t3h sux"? It adds nothing to the conversation; then again, it's kind of hard to add anything to this conversation.

Cause it's half way true. Relgion is good for something and horrible for other things.. and if people wish to only see their own points then "omfg religion sux". Religion is great for building a great community and spirit among people, bonding them closer together. People become calmer knowing where we came from and where we go, no harm in that, although you can't prove the stories.. it is belief that counts. However, using religion to earn money (catholic church in medieval times), to wage war and supress people and remove happyness from their lives is just plain wrong.
Depends on the people using the belief system really.

Well, the point of my post was that such a statement, even when in it's fully true form, doesn't really add anything to the conversation and generally just causes the thread to decay faster.

[Kieland]

At 2/18/06 08:23 AM, Newground_Freak wrote: Jesus was a jew.

edn.

If you hope to denounce such a massive religion as Christianity, then you're going to need more evidence than the fact that Jesus grew up and was raised as a Jew. The Old Testament is based off of Jewish beliefs. The difference is that Christianity built off of said Jewish beliefs and added to them. Christianity is not trying to deny that Jesus grew up Jewish. Christianity believes that Jesus was the Son of God and to the Christians it doesn't matter what religion he grew up following, he's still the worshiped Lord of Christians.

So if you want to truly denounce Christianity, for God's sake come up with something better than the fact that Jesus grew up in a Jewish household. I'm not saying I agree or disagree, but for shit's sake at this point it sounds as if you're just hoping to rile up a few Christians.