Birth Control

[x-Toadenalin-x]

I understand the Roman Catholic Church is strongly against all forms of non-natural birth control (condoms, IUD coils e.t.c.). Does anyone know why this is?

I would also like to know if any non-Catholic shares this view, and why?

It is my belief that this teaching causes more trouble than it prevents, since it leads to pregnancies and STIs in couples who cannot handle them.

[N-Antichrist]

Catholics like to protest against EVERYTHING, it's fucking annoying

is that useful and helpful? i protest! and since it's my religion, you can't just call us idiots and leave it there! NO! lets waste time on nothing instead!

[Me-Patch]

At 2/14/06 02:41 PM, Luff-Antichrist wrote: Catholics like to protest against EVERYTHING, it's fucking annoying

is that useful and helpful? i protest! and since it's my religion, you can't just call us idiots and leave it there! NO! lets waste time on nothing instead!

Yeah but it's cool when muslims burn down embesseys, and protestants burn down cathedrals. Why is there so much Anti-Catholicism on newgrounds. Wake up and smell the coffee America, Catholicism is the largest religion in the world.

PROTESTantism.

[Me-Patch]

At 2/14/06 01:52 PM, x_Toadenalin_x wrote: I understand the Roman Catholic Church is strongly against all forms of non-natural birth control (condoms, IUD coils e.t.c.). Does anyone know why this is?

Sex is the means through which humans procreate, according to Catholic Dogma every act of sex must remain open to the possibility conception otherwise it is nothing more than cooperative masterbation. How hard is that to understand.

It is my belief that this teaching causes more trouble than it prevents, since it leads to pregnancies and STIs in couples who cannot handle them.

It doesn't lead to any of those things if you also practice abstinance until marriage silly buns.

[mayeram]

Christianity is fear of god. The pope uses this fear to control what people do because he is a power hungry bastard that thinks he knows what’s best for you better then you do. The Vatican thinks that if you have protection from pregnancy or STDs when having sex, that you will be more likely to have it and therefore say that protection is bad.

In other words being a slut and sleeping with tons of men and then living on the welfare that the government pays you is ok. But if you are 18 and want to have sex with your girlfriend, and don’t want to have to have your life ruined by having a child yet, and use a condom. You are being unfaithful to god.

The worst part is that the Vatican is unwilling to change their minds even though it has become painfully obvious that their policy it harming the world more then helping it.

[Me-Patch]

At 2/14/06 02:53 PM, mayeram wrote: Christianity is fear of god. The pope uses this fear to control what people do because he is a power hungry bastard that thinks he knows what’s best for you better then you do. The Vatican thinks that if you have protection from pregnancy or STDs when having sex, that you will be more likely to have it and therefore say that protection is bad.

Yeah and the Pope also goes door to door at night stealing babies and eating them alive, why do you think wer'e against abortion.

In other words being a slut and sleeping with tons of men and then living on the welfare that the government pays you is ok. But if you are 18 and want to have sex with your girlfriend, and don’t want to have to have your life ruined by having a child yet, and use a condom. You are being unfaithful to god.

Yeah and if your catholic every sunday you need to drink blood out of a skull and have sex with as many animals as possible.

The worst part is that the Vatican is unwilling to change their minds even though it has become painfully obvious that their policy it harming the world more then helping it.

Your'e right, we should just bomb the vatican then huh, you simple minded, prejudice, retarded, biggoted, KKK member

[bakem0n0]

At 2/14/06 02:49 PM, The_Tank wrote:

At 2/14/06 02:41 PM, Luff-Antichrist wrote: Catholics like to protest against EVERYTHING, it's fucking annoying

is that useful and helpful? i protest! and since it's my religion, you can't just call us idiots and leave it there! NO! lets waste time on nothing instead!

Yeah but it's cool when muslims burn down embesseys, and protestants burn down cathedrals.

Of course not, that was neither stated nor implied.

Why is there so much Anti-Catholicism on newgrounds.

Because people like you make posts like that one.

Wake up and smell the coffee America, Catholicism is the largest religion in the world.

No. Hinduism is. Catholicism is the largest religion in the Europe and America--The world has more than 2 continents.

[Me-Patch]

At 2/14/06 02:59 PM, bakem0n0 wrote:

Why is there so much Anti-Catholicism on newgrounds.

Because people like you make posts like that one.

Me inquiring why there is hatefull sentiment for Catholics on Newgrounds causes there to be more hatred for catholics?

Wake up and smell the coffee America, Catholicism is the largest religion in the world.

No. Hinduism is. Catholicism is the largest religion in the Europe and America--The world has more than 2 continents.

No Hinduism is the Third largest religion in the world. Islam is second and Christianity is first, but even without all of the protestant Christians Catholicism would still have 25 mil more than Islam.

http://www.geohive.c..bal/religion_top.php

[bakem0n0]

At 2/14/06 03:07 PM, The_Tank wrote:

At 2/14/06 02:59 PM, bakem0n0 wrote:

Why is there so much Anti-Catholicism on newgrounds.

Because people like you make posts like that one.

Me inquiring why there is hatefull sentiment for Catholics on Newgrounds causes there to be more hatred for catholics?

You making insulting gross overgeneralizations does, yes.

[Me-Patch]

At 2/14/06 03:19 PM, bakem0n0 wrote: You making insulting gross overgeneralizations does, yes.

Gross overgenaralizations as to what exactly? That there is an anti catholic sentiment on Newgrounds? Have you read a single post in this thread besides mine and yours?

[bakem0n0]

At 2/14/06 03:21 PM, The_Tank wrote:

At 2/14/06 03:19 PM, bakem0n0 wrote: You making insulting gross overgeneralizations does, yes.

Gross overgenaralizations as to what exactly? That there is an anti catholic sentiment on Newgrounds? Have you read a single post in this thread besides mine and yours?

Do you remember this post?

At 2/14/06 02:57 PM, The_Tank wrote: At 2/14/06 02:53 PM, mayeram wrote:

Christianity is fear of god. The pope uses this fear to control what people do because he is a power hungry bastard that thinks he knows what’s best for you better then you do. The Vatican thinks that if you have protection from pregnancy or STDs when having sex, that you will be more likely to have it and therefore say that protection is bad.

Yeah and the Pope also goes door to door at night stealing babies and eating them alive, why do you think wer'e against abortion.

In other words being a slut and sleeping with tons of men and then living on the welfare that the government pays you is ok. But if you are 18 and want to have sex with your girlfriend, and don’t want to have to have your life ruined by having a child yet, and use a condom. You are being unfaithful to god.

Yeah and if your catholic every sunday you need to drink blood out of a skull and have sex with as many animals as possible.

The worst part is that the Vatican is unwilling to change their minds even though it has become painfully obvious that their policy it harming the world more then helping it.

Your'e right, we should just bomb the vatican then huh, you simple minded, prejudice, retarded, biggoted, KKK member

Sounds pretty overgeneralized and fairly insuting to me.

[Me-Patch]

At 2/14/06 03:24 PM, bakem0n0 wrote: Do you remember this post?

Sounds pretty overgeneralized and fairly insuting to me.

Your'e right it was overgeneralizing and insulting, I'm still waiting for mayeram to apologize to me.

[bakem0n0]

At 2/14/06 03:27 PM, The_Tank wrote:

At 2/14/06 03:24 PM, bakem0n0 wrote: Do you remember this post?

Sounds pretty overgeneralized and fairly insuting to me.

Your'e right it was overgeneralizing and insulting, I'm still waiting for mayeram to apologize to me.

You can't respond to abuse with abuse and expect the other guy to bring flowers next time.

[Imperator]

*Sigh

More Catholicism bashing from idiots who just don't have the intellectual capacity to understand........

Let's make this real clear:

You aren't saying anything intersting or even reomotely new. The RCC is practically the expert organization for dealing with morons and anit-Church people, y'all need to find yourselves a book on this and read..........

I suggest Porphyry, he was much smarter and much better at bashing the Church than any of you schmucks could hope. Read him and learn how to REALLY hit the Roman Catholic faith in the nuts!

[bakem0n0]

He asked a simple question and you respond by claiming it to be bashing . . . the only one I see bashing is you.

[Me-Patch]

At 2/14/06 03:32 PM, bakem0n0 wrote: You can't respond to abuse with abuse and expect the other guy to bring flowers next time.

He said that the Pope uses fear to control the minds of catholics and is a power hungry bastard.

"In other words being a slut and sleeping with tons of men and then living on the welfare that the government pays you is ok. "
- mayeram
He also has no idea what he's talking about.

You didn't see bashing in any of that?

[HighlyIllogical]

The Church opposes homosexual marriage/unions, abortion (which is a legitimate medical practice), contraceptive use and expects people to be abstinate (all the time. Who'd think that telling people to be abstinate actually stops them from having sex?). The Church is messed up...

[Me-Patch]

At 2/14/06 03:39 PM, mackid wrote: The Church opposes homosexual marriage/unions, abortion (which is a legitimate medical practice), contraceptive use and expects people to be abstinate (all the time. Who'd think that telling people to be abstinate actually stops them from having sex?). The Church is messed up...

Not to burst your bubble, but all christians not just Catholics believe in most of the above.

[HighlyIllogical]

I've heard lots of Catholics who don't, and many protestants (of all stripes) as well.

[notld224]

well i'm jewish so you can use any kind of freekin birth control you wish so long it's not
forcibly castrating or sterilizing either partner. And to tell you he truth my heart says the same thing, i don't see why the catholic church is so jittery about sex topics..
The pope meddles in homosexual rights and the straight people praise him. But when he meddles in heterosexual rights they brush the old coot off.

[Me-Patch]

Hell just because someones Catholic doesn't mean their going to take their religion more seriously than the rest of the Christians. We all choose to disagree with certain aspects of our religion, if you just go around blindly following your faith to the letter your a fool and you have no mind of your own, regardless of which label you wear. I'm just trying to give you people some insight into why Catholics believe what they believe.

I apologize if I come across as harsh, but when I defend my own religion I start getting offended easily which leads to anger. It just happens and I'll bet it would for every one of you too.

[notld224]

yeah your right, following your faith blindly is idiocy. My mom pretty much does that and it's not good. I mean my relegion is against homosexuality but i just say I think people have a right to their preferences so long as it dont harm anything. you need
an open mind otherwise you're going to make mistakes.... thats why my inner self controls what about my relegion i believe.

[HighlyIllogical]

At 2/14/06 03:55 PM, The_Tank wrote: Hell just because someones Catholic doesn't mean their going to take their religion more seriously than the rest of the Christians. We all choose to disagree with certain aspects of our religion, if you just go around blindly following your faith to the letter your a fool and you have no mind of your own, regardless of which label you wear. I'm just trying to give you people some insight into why Catholics believe what they believe.

it's interesting, I'll give you that. And quite informative. I just think that it's silly to ignore fact about birth control being over 90 percent effective and abstinence not actually being practiced.

I apologize if I come across as harsh, but when I defend my own religion I start getting offended easily which leads to anger. It just happens and I'll bet it would for every one of you too.

It does, I know it does for me.

[Me-Patch]

How do you answer the charge that the Catholic Church or opposition to same-sex marriage is "homophobic"?

The Catechism of the Catholic Church states: "Men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies . . . must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided."3

We have to remember that all people are created in the image of God and deserve to be treated as such, no matter what their behavior. We make a distinction between person and behavior, sometimes expressed as "hate the sin, love the sinner." The Catechism describes homosexual acts as "intrinsically disordered": "They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life.

Catholic teaching states that Sex without the possibility of conception is nothing more than mindless stimulation. This includes Homosexuality. Does that mean that I as a Catholic don't like to partake in mindless stimulation? Hell no.

[HighlyIllogical]

I'm talking ABOUT things like canon law and misinterperetations of the Bible that say that it's wrong for gay people to engage in sexual activity. Not catholics as people.

[Elfer]

Because it's unnatural, unlike things such as complex religious rituals and transubstantiation.

[bakem0n0]

At 2/14/06 08:19 PM, Zenobia wrote: I had a friend who was pregnant and using a doctor at a catholic hospital. She lost the baby, and went to the hospital's e.r.. They refused to give her a DNC because they consider it abortion. They made her go through labor, even though the baby was already dead. How messed up is that? Just give the poor girl the freaking surgery, she was already upset over the fact her baby died...

And you post this with a happy smily!?!

That just shows how mule-like people can be.

[Me-Patch]

At 2/14/06 08:19 PM, Zenobia wrote: I had a friend who was pregnant and using a doctor at a catholic hospital. She lost the baby, and went to the hospital's e.r.. They refused to give her a DNC because they consider it abortion.

I'm pretty sure that would be illegal.

[plstkazn]

Ah birth control. Mostly, this pertains to birht control pills, abortions ec etc...

I say pro choice! If you let that baby grow and let that teenage kid become a mother, who suffers? The child suffers, the mom suffers and why? Because two kids were in the moment and weren't allowed to take rhe pill? And weren't allowed to use a condom? And why did this boy screw this girl? Becasue he wasn't allowed to jack off???

I say, save these children from themselves. They are not ready for children for they still are children.

However, there must be a set time limit for birht cntrol pills like the day after pills. I say, you can kill the embryo before it reaches 5 weeks because at that time, what more is it than just a bunch of cells? It would be the same as washing your hands Y kill more bacteria by brushing your teeth!!!

[HighlyIllogical]

It's not much more than a bunch of cells at the end of the second trimester. Once it can function outside the womb without intense intervention (read: full code type intervention), not just an incubator or something, it's not very nice to abort. But I'd give the woman the right to abort if she wants. It's no man's decision on what a woman should do with something inside her body.