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At 2/14/06 07:23 AM, altanese_mistress wrote:

There! Ireffutable proof that the Earth is flat!

And, yet, anybody can go to a local skyscraper, go to the observation deck, and take a picture like this one that refutes your irrefutable proof.

If the earth is flat, then why is the horizon curved?

This one reminds me of a debate that went on, long and hard, that a friend (A) and a cousin of a different friend (B) had about the nature of reality. The debate went on for ages, and I can't remmeber what it was about, but A was relying on scientific proof and B was relying on the fact that scientific proof was only worth your own faith in it. A went on to prove his argument by stating something about static on TV being caused by background radiation from space, and B stated that he couldn't prove that because he couldn't isolate something in a vacuum to show us what the TV would show without the radiation.

Oooh. I get to talk pop philisophy again from my " The Pig That Wants To Be Eaten" Book...

"Conspiracy Theories are made possible because of two limitations of knowledge formation. The first is what could be called the holistic nature of understanding; any single thing we believe is connected, web-like, to any number of other beliefs... The second is what is rather grandly called the underdetermination of theory by evidence. In plain English, that means that the facts never provide enough evidence to conclusively prove one theory and one theory only. There is always a gap"

"Put these two theories together, and space opens up for even the wildest of conspiracy theories. There is overwhelming evidence that the moon is a lump of rock, but we are not compelled by the evidence to reach this conclusion. The evidential gaps mean that the evidence can be made consistant even with the hypothesis that the moon is made of cheese. All we need to do is rearrange all the other interconnected beliefs we have in our web of understanding so that they all fit"

Because none of us actually KNOW otherwise, or can prove beyond ALL doubt that these quite wild ideas albanese has come up with are fakes, we can't actually disprove them. We can rely on what we've all been taught to be right, but this won't mean we're any more right - it only means we have more evidence, and therefore more chance of being right.

This is why there are arguments between Creationists and people who believe in the Theory Of Evolution. Neither can disprove the other totally to the point where their ideas fall apart.

Better not try that round world trip any time soon then. There's a good chance I'm wrong about it being round. Of course, this could all be an elaborate lie perpetrated by some clever demon to make me think this world exists and turn this into a Descartes rant.

Cogito?...

At 2/14/06 09:00 AM, -poxpower- wrote:

At 2/14/06 07:32 AM, thebigo1081 wrote: Look at the maps in Final Fantasy if my explanation is too vague. and beyond the realm of mortal comprehension.

You're right!

And what are the chances, that out of all the billions of possible 3d shapes, the earth would be round? Haha completely nill!
Its much more likely flat!

Gravity defines that it would be a sphere. With the center of gravity being in of all places the CENTER of the earth, all points around that spot would be equally attracted to that spot, thus causing the world to be round.

At 2/14/06 09:33 PM, PCpr0gramer wrote: Gravity defines that it would be a sphere. With the center of gravity being in of all places the CENTER of the earth, all points around that spot would be equally attracted to that spot, thus causing the world to be round.

Nice one.

why do the really stupid topicks last the longest?

At 2/14/06 09:33 PM, PCpr0gramer wrote: Gravity defines that it would be a sphere. With the center of gravity being in of all places the CENTER of the earth, all points around that spot would be equally attracted to that spot, thus causing the world to be round.

This is only assuming what you know to be true about the world is real. Could just be that gravity forces mass downwards, just like magnetism forces all things to point north. Now while that sounds stupid, I can prove that one with the items in my room (connection to the Internet not withstanding) better than I can the accepted scientific belief.

Put it this way. If you lost your memory and had someone argue thier cases to you without them providing any proof of thier findings, who would you be more willing to believe? The person who claims gravity works because the world must be a sphere, or the person who tells you that magnets point north, and gravity points down?

At 2/14/06 09:45 PM, Orcinator wrote: why do the really stupid topicks last the longest?

Because a couple people find such great ammusement in watching them

A:Nothing can be perfectly flat.
B:You are just like a holocaust denyer(SP?). That was debated long ago and shown to be false.

Thus, I must ask you to QUIT WASTING MY FUCKING TIME!

At 2/14/06 10:12 PM, TheTrueMrJack wrote: A:Nothing can be perfectly flat.

No one said the world to be perfectly flat. I assume their veiw takes into account mountains, etc, and only means that it is arranged as a flat surface rather than a pentahedron.

At 2/14/06 10:12 PM, TheTrueMrJack wrote: B:You are just like a holocaust denyer(SP?). That was debated long ago and shown to be false.

EDIT: False in the sense that "It did happen" Not that the holocaust never happened.

Sorry for anyone I have confused

At 2/14/06 08:25 AM, thebigo1081 wrote:

At 2/14/06 08:22 AM, Wyrlum wrote: How a flat Earth casts a round shadow on the Moon is a bit hard to explain.

Wow, in my world, most shadows are two-dimensional. GO back to school, n00b.

I hope your not serious, round doesnt imply the 3rd dimension >=(

At 2/15/06 12:22 AM, Hamslice wrote:

At 2/14/06 08:25 AM, thebigo1081 wrote:

At 2/14/06 08:22 AM, Wyrlum wrote: How a flat Earth casts a round shadow on the Moon is a bit hard to explain.

Wow, in my world, most shadows are two-dimensional. GO back to school, n00b.

I hope your not serious, round doesnt imply the 3rd dimension >=(

No, but I fail to see how a round shadow proves the Earth to be spherical. It only proves it's round. It could be circular based off that evidence.

At 2/14/06 07:23 AM, altanese_mistress wrote: There! Ireffutable proof that the Earth is flat!

For your first joke thread, this is actually pretty lame. Nobody fell for it.

At 2/14/06 11:57 AM, Proteas wrote: Uh huh, cute. Even if that were the case, you would still eventually get to the edge sooner or later. And I don't see anyone claiming to have found that edge yet, have you?

Except for him. But Proteas's from Tenneesee, so he doesn't count.

At 2/15/06 12:34 AM, Empanado wrote:

At 2/14/06 11:57 AM, Proteas wrote: Uh huh, cute. Even if that were the case, you would still eventually get to the edge sooner or later. And I don't see anyone claiming to have found that edge yet, have you?

Except for him. But Proteas's from Tenneesee, so he doesn't count.

Wait, I thought it was that people from Tenneesee couldn't count, not that they didn't?

-.-
Here's your answer.
"Gravity".

At 2/15/06 07:53 AM, Loc_Tran wrote: Here's your answer.
"Gravity".

But gravity affects a flat plane in exactly the same way that it would affect a sphere. It says in the Bible that the Earth has four corners, and that's good enough for me.

At 2/14/06 08:25 AM, thebigo1081 wrote:

At 2/14/06 08:22 AM, Wyrlum wrote: How a flat Earth casts a round shadow on the Moon is a bit hard to explain.

Wow, in my world, most shadows are two-dimensional. GO back to school, n00b.

Damn right the world is flat! Just one more dirty secret they don't want you to know; like the fact that 2+2=5, snow is balck, and that all living things eventually die (we actually live forever, but become invisible to everyone else over time)!

The truth is out now!!!

lol u all take it waaaaaaayyyy too serious, and the earth is flat, the church says it so it has to be right! and the muslims say the world is round so it has to be wrong! Also the greeks said it was rounds, but they just hump other males in their gymnasia(as i learn at school)

I like it. I bet theres been a lot of people with their heads in their arses replying. ah well.

To be honest I have never seen the world for my own eyes, but the powers that be wouldnt lie to us.

Would they?

i say: look at the first post, they just dont want to admit they didnt send folks to space

"The World" is merely a illusion. We live in the Matrix. Nobody has ever seen the real world, so we can't know it's true shape.

that is what i believe, cause when u sleep how come you dream?? it has to be fake,.. and the dreams are just errors

At 2/15/06 03:36 PM, TwO_FaCeD_PaRaNoID wrote: that is what i believe, cause when u sleep how come you dream?? it has to be fake,.. and the dreams are just errors

I hate Mcafee so much. I am going to write to them, blaming them for my bad dreams. I mean why do I never get what I want.

I think that, when you sleep, your consiousness is temporarely thrown out of the matrix, in a sleep in the real world. This is because the plugs need to cool down once in a while.

At 2/15/06 03:37 PM, LegendaryLukus wrote:

At 2/15/06 03:36 PM, TwO_FaCeD_PaRaNoID wrote: that is what i believe, cause when u sleep how come you dream?? it has to be fake,.. and the dreams are just errors

I hate Mcafee so much. I am going to write to them, blaming them for my bad dreams. I mean why do I never get what I want.

because life sucks,

yeah life and mcafee

At 2/14/06 07:23 AM, altanese_mistress wrote: 1) That horizon is the edge of the Earth. It may seem like the horizone is always moving away, but you're actually getting closer to it. It only seems to be moving because its so far away.

There's a horizon, not horizone, because that's where the world curves enough so you can't see what's over the edge. The world only seems flat because the curve is very gradual to someone 1/1000000th of it's size (not actual fact).

2) Mathmatically, if the Earth were round, then the slipperage caused by tripping would be very much in the 'bad' area, as proven by 89% of the leading scientists in the world!

What the fuck?

3) Look at a map; maps are FLAT!!!

Photos are flat also, does that mean all people are 2-D?

4) The pictures of Earth from space? They've gotta be fakes, because everyone knows that humans never REALLY went to space.

Oh, really? They're fake for the solitary reason that "everyone knows" it?

5) The Titanic sunk because they found out the truth by selling too close, and it was sunk by U-boats.

So the Germans are in on this, too? It's a worldwide fuckin' conspiracy?

6) America didn't go across the pacific to attack the Japanese and vice versa, they actually went around Antartica south of South America and Africa. All the Pacific nations are paid of by the US government in the billions supposedly spent on a space program so they'll keep their mouths shut.

Our government may be corrupt, but that's a little extreme.

There! Ireffutable proof that the Earth is flat!

I seemed to have missed it.

Yeh it's round, but the Sun is a cube.

At 2/14/06 07:23 AM, altanese_mistress wrote:

4) The pictures of Earth from space? They've gotta be fakes, because everyone knows that humans never REALLY went to space.

No one said that we've never went to space. I suggest reading every post and try letting it sink in for a while before jumping to any conlcusions. Ah, who am I kidding, it faster to just tell you. The people in the thread are arguing that NASA hasn't been to the MOON (the moon is not space) in 1969. You see there is a difference between going into and orbit around the Earth, and going to the moon. I don't suppose they teach you about the Van Allen Belt in kintergarden?

I don't reckon they got into deep space though, them rockets just don't seem to have the force for it. Of course with today's technology it's probably been done, but I don't believe Russia was capable of space fight in the 60's.