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It is more vicious to be selfish and untruthful (using society against others, passively) than it is to slaughter some so that the rest can live well. We're overpopulated. Even worse, the majority of our population are so devoid of inherited intelligence, nobility, beauty and strength that they are always viciously and passively attacking those that they perceive to be above them (blonde jokes, anyone?). Given that our population will inevitably expand to take over more territory than permits nature to renew itself, we should stop this now before things go awry.

http://www.anus.com/zine/articles/vicious/

[ Only in an insane society would we spend all of our time demonizing terrorists and nazis when the real threat comes from our loss of holistic values. ]


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Yeah, I'm not that fond of the current humanity either but I tend to prefer social reform to genocide

I have nothing against people who can use pot and lead a productive life. It's these sanctimonius hippies that make me wish I was a riot cop in the 60's

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At 2/12/06 06:20 PM, Mighty_Genghis wrote: It is more vicious to be selfish and untruthful (using society against others, passively) than it is to slaughter some so that the rest can live well. We're overpopulated. Even worse, the majority of our population are so devoid of inherited intelligence, nobility, beauty and strength that they are always viciously and passively attacking those that they perceive to be above them (blonde jokes, anyone?). Given that our population will inevitably expand to take over more territory than permits nature to renew itself, we should stop this now before things go awry.

http://www.anus.com/zine/articles/vicious/



[ Only in an insane society would we spend all of our time demonizing terrorists and nazis when the real threat comes from our loss of holistic values. ]

Interesting article. I agreed with some of it, but found other bits disturbing. Particularly this part;

“if we want to preserve our natural environment, we must convince most of our population not to breed or, more likely, since they're not going to accept that, force them to.”

Who gets to breed then, the people who are ‘inherited’ with intelligence, nobility, beauty and strength (have to point out of course, none of these traits are inherited, unless we’re talking about nobility being granted not by ones actions, but by ones blood)?

This all sounds like the ravings of a slight madman, seems to make sense on the surface but you soon realise it’s a load of bullshit. It’s approaching the world with a very black-and-white view. Of course overpopulation is a worry. But there’s other ways to solve it. More investment into the space programs, off-world colonisation would surely take the pressure of the Earth. or the international community could take a leaf out of Chinas book and enforce a one child per couple rule, if this could be held to then every generation would half in size.

"Men have had the vanity to pretend that the whole creation was made for them, while in reality the whole creation does not suspect their existence." - Camille


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At 2/12/06 06:44 PM, stafffighter wrote: Yeah, I'm not that fond of the current humanity either but I tend to prefer social reform to genocide

You too?

The one thing force produces is resistance.

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At 2/12/06 06:56 PM, redskvnk wrote:
At 2/12/06 06:44 PM, stafffighter wrote: Yeah, I'm not that fond of the current humanity either but I tend to prefer social reform to genocide
You too?

Dude. You're not gunna believe this...

ME TOO!

Creepy.

So I'm basically awesome.


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No way!!!! ME TOO!

Wow, I just killed it.


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At 2/12/06 08:20 PM, mackid wrote: No way!!!! ME TOO!

Wow, I just killed it.

Wha?


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Sounds like Mein Kampf. It suggests ethnic purity.
I'm begining not to like you Genghis.


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At 2/12/06 10:50 PM, Richthofen wrote: Sounds like Mein Kampf. It suggests ethnic purity.
I'm begining not to like you Genghis.

Have you been reading his posts?! If you don't like Nazism...

Genghis, what you are suggesting is more vicious than today's society.


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At 2/12/06 06:51 PM, o_r_i_g_i_n_a_l wrote:
Who gets to breed then, the people who are ‘inherited’ with intelligence, nobility, beauty and strength (have to point out of course, none of these traits are inherited)

Actually traits are inherited: It's called DNA, and you share it with your relatives.


More investment into the space programs, off-world colonisation would surely take the pressure of the Earth.

I don't think science fiction is going to help us any time soon, so in the meantime I'd rather we all focus on pragmatic means of preserving our planet and its biological diversity.


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At 2/13/06 12:10 AM, MoralLibertarian wrote: Genghis, what you are suggesting is more vicious than today's society.

No its not, and it explains why in the article if you would be so kind as to take the time to read it.


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At 2/12/06 10:50 PM, Richthofen wrote: It suggests ethnic purity.

Actually it doesn't. You see Undermen come from all races (some more than others though), and it is important that they are all slaughtered or sterilized so that they don't interfere with things.


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At 2/12/06 06:20 PM, Mighty_Genghis wrote: It is more vicious to be selfish and untruthful (using society against others, passively) than it is to slaughter some so that the rest can live well. We're overpopulated. Even worse, the majority of our population are so devoid of inherited intelligence, nobility, beauty and strength that they are always viciously and passively attacking those that they perceive to be above them (blonde jokes, anyone?). Given that our population will inevitably expand to take over more territory than permits nature to renew itself, we should stop this now before things go awry.

http://www.anus.com/zine/articles/vicious/



[ Only in an insane society would we spend all of our time demonizing terrorists and nazis when the real threat comes from our loss of holistic values. ]

Omfg ! I am dreaming right?! ... wait... no...it's real... I am awake... it can't be happening! IT'S ANOTHER FUCKING NAZI TOPIC BY GENGHIS_KHAN!!!!!
GOD HAVE MERCY ON US ALL!


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At 2/13/06 01:40 AM, Mighty_Genghis wrote: Actually it doesn't. You see Undermen come from all races (some more than others though), and it is important that they are all slaughtered or sterilized so that they don't interfere with things.

it is important that they are all slaughtered or sterilized so that they don't interfere with things.
If that doesn't resemble Genocide, I don't know what it is.


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This just makes me shake my head. Did you know, that a study came out, saying you could fit every single human being in the state OF TEXAS? And they would even have a little walking room. About humans being stupid, i agree. Humans are just allowing themselves to dwell and get fed off of by the greedy.


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sid vicious is more vicious


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At 2/12/06 06:20 PM, Mighty_Genghis wrote: It is more vicious to be selfish and untruthful (using society against others, passively) than it is to slaughter some so that the rest can live well.

So being untruthful is worse than killing people in the name of 'population control'?

Yea. That's definitely a holistic way to look at things.

Even worse, the majority of our population are so devoid of inherited intelligence, nobility, beauty and strength that they are always viciously and passively attacking those that they perceive to be above them (blonde jokes, anyone?).

I don't know where to start, on you.

Our society and culture is devoid of intelligence? Is that why our culture is on the cutting edge of technology in many fields? What do you mean by 'so devoid of inherited intelligence'? Not only is there intelligence in every field in this country, there's beauty and strength as well.

What's your definition of strength? Is it joining the military when you know there's a chance of dying? Is it raising several children as a single parent? Is it working three jobs to put yourself through college? Is it sticking to whatever your moral core is, despite pressure from every imaginable side to feel some alternative way?

Because we have all that, in our society. We have all that, and a lot more.

Are you such a cynical fool that you cannot recognize gorgeousity and strength in everyday life, and everyday people? Does it have to be Rembrant, or Van Gogh to beautiful? Does it have to be Ghandi, or Martin Luther King, to be strong?

Wake the fuck up. You're an eternal-pessimist who thinks everything is, and always will be, shit. And you're rightfully entitled to feel that way. Proposing silly little plans to 'fix' your malcontented opinions about things, however, is fucking ridiculous.

[ Only in an insane society would we spend all of our time demonizing terrorists and nazis when the real threat comes from our loss of holistic values. ]

As technology increases, and economies strengthen...holistic values die. You know this. Anyone who took an intro-to-business in highschool knows this.

It's just how a culture evolves.

At 2/13/06 01:29 AM, Mighty_Genghis wrote:
At 2/12/06 06:51 PM, o_r_i_g_i_n_a_l wrote: Who gets to breed then, the people who are ‘inherited’ with intelligence, nobility, beauty and strength (have to point out of course, none of these traits are inherited)
Actually traits are inherited: It's called DNA, and you share it with your relatives.

Nobility, strenght, and beauty are all perspective. There is no 'true definiton' of nobility, or beauty.

It's an opinion. Like everything else you say.

I don't think science fiction is going to help us any time soon, so in the meantime I'd rather we all focus on pragmatic means of preserving our planet and its biological diversity.

Oh, space travel is 'science fiction'...while 'purifying our ethnicity' is complete scientific fact.

Way to go.


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At 2/13/06 01:40 AM, Mighty_Genghis wrote: Actually it doesn't. You see Undermen come from all races (some more than others though), and it is important that they are all slaughtered or sterilized so that they don't interfere with things.

Yeah, killing the poor and or stupid is a great way to return society to its original brilliance. How could anyone NOT see that?


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