USA Threat

[Hatchet-Rider]

The Danger OF The United States
The united states of america is pushing for a war in an unstable reigion of the world. The government does controll the most massive millitary in the history of the world. They do controll the most massive nuclear aresenol of any single country, more than 3,000. An invasion of other countries is easily the most threatening thing another country can be met with from the united states. The simple fact is that the entire force of the US cannot match that of the Arab league and china, for if the US invade Iraq, Taiwan is toast. I would Like some opinions on this statement.

[mulder-xuk]

At 1/9/03 01:42 AM, JuggaloKilla wrote:

:The government does controll the most massive millitary in the history of the world.

how big is it?

i know the army in china have 4million troops

does the usa have more?

[swayside]

At 1/9/03 06:58 AM, mulder_xuk wrote:

At 1/9/03 01:42 AM, JuggaloKilla wrote: The government does controll the most massive millitary in the history of the world.

how big is it?

i know the army in china have 4million troops

does the usa have more?

it really doesn't matter how massive a military force is as long as it is effective. do you know about the '67 bourder? that was the national bourderline of isreal after they thouroughly whipped every country surrounding them (five arab nations were involved in this war). isreal used this land as payment for the arab acknowlegement of israel's right to exist. they were horribly outnumbered, but they kicked some major butt. how much better do you think america will fair again the terroist nations and their allies?

[Slizor]

isreal used this land as payment for the arab acknowlegement of israel's right to exist.

Hmm, that's one way of putting it...a stupid way since Israel attaked first...but a way.

they were horribly outnumbered, but they kicked some major butt.

But the other countries were not co-ordinated together, plus Israel managed to wipe out a lot in the first attacks.

how much better do you think america will fair again the terroist nations and their allies?

Terrorist nations? What about China?

[IamjustSci]

Unfortunately, there's not much we can do. The first wave of troops are already stationed at the borders of Saudi Arabia and Iraq. You don't station hundreds of thousands of troops at a country's border if you don't plan on doing anything. Bush is waiting for Congress' ok, and even if he doesn't get it, that trigger happy little prick is gonna move into unofficial war. I think it's fucking BULLSHIT they don't just send in a few dozen assasins and do this the clean way. I mean if they feel they HAVE to eliminate Sadaam, why not keep innocent lives out of the way of this? Yes, America has some pact that they won't assasinate anyone (I think it was Carter that signed it, I forgot...) at least not officially. But you know what, that's what Israel is for. They're US allies, they could use the money, they have debatably the second best army in the world, and they've got an intelligence agency that rivals the KGB and the CIA. How about those pricks give a little payback for being their only friends in the middle east and help the US by poking a nice little bullet shaped hole into Sadaam's head so that we don't have all out war. Yes, someone would take Sadaam's place, but if HE was "taken care of" also, I do NOT think anyone would rush in to be #3.

[TheloniousMONK]

Scailtail, and what if someone leaked the information that America payed Israel to assassinate Saddam. You would say what a horrible thing it was, that Bush was a loser, and anything else you could think of. Basically, you hate Bush and that causes you to be close minded about the issue. I'm not trying to insult or provoke you, I'm just saying that being realistic is more important than being right.

[MarijuanaClock]

China has the largest military in the world. With over 2.2 million men under arms(as of 2000). the People's Liberation Amry is a force to be reckoned with.

The fact is if world opinion was mobilized against America it would fall.

Russia, The United Kingdom, France, China, Israel, India, Pakistan, and former Soviet Republics all have nuclear weapons. Canada, South Africa, and many others can produce nuclear weapons right now, however choose not to. Many "Rouge states" are on the verge of developing nuclear weapons. The world spends three-quarters of a trillion dollars a year on military spending, America spends 276.7 billion dollars. Now although 276.7 billion dollars is an extreme amount, 276.7 billion dollars simply can not combat three-quarters of a trillion.

[IamjustSci]

I'm not trying to insult or provoke you, I'm just saying that being realistic is more important than being right.

So you're telling me that an all out assult is a good thing? Because of this little situation the United States is twisting and turning around all of the laws and rules that have fundamentally made it what it is. It's allowed them to get away with passing laws and acts that are COMPLETELY against the Bill of Rights, a part of the constitution that according to many Americans is the symbol of freedom in the United States.

[WolfSoldier]

Why the heck would china even get involved anyway and if China does get involved were allied to like half the world because we basically defend the world cuz were the only semi non corrupt government

[Slizor]

The world spends three-quarters of a trillion dollars a year on military spending, America spends 276.7 billion dollars. Now although 276.7 billion dollars is an extreme amount, 276.7 billion dollars simply can not combat three-quarters of a trillion.

MC not that I would go against you on most of your views, it's just these statistis. $276.7 billion is a a third of the 3/4 of a trillion, plus the 1/2 a trillion is dispursed between all the other countries, plus only a little difference is exhaggerated by time.

[FuckingRetard]

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING, VIETNAM... again.

Like Vietnam, the "war on terror" is an unnecessary movement in which neither side is truly good or just; Saddam and Bush are both tyrants, so it's essentially two tyrants battling one another for wealth and power, rather than taking a progressive step forward in the name of peace (unless you count shooting everyone with opposing views to your own as being peaceful, that is).

What strikes me as being morbidly funny, is the notion that Bush has strong financial ties with both oil and armament corporations, so no matter what the outcome may be, no matter how many lives on both sides are lost, he stands to make millions. Really, what's a few thousand shattered lives here and there, so long as Retard gets to keep his ranch? ...I hear it's a nice ranch. Besides, those dead innocents were Arab, and if CNN propaganda has only taught me one thing, it's that any non-white person, especially Arab in origin, is guiltily until proven otherwise.

Back on topic, it's widely known, but just as much so denied, that the US is strongly big business oriented, and through the policy of sweat shop labour, hordes of third world countries are exploited (killed, tortured, taken hostage - general acts of terrorism), ironically making America the terrorists in those peoples eyes, as the Arab nations are in our eyes. Knowing this, and knowing the United States commitment to eliminating terror, one would think the US would launch a "war on terrorism" upon their self... But that wouldn't be profitable.
On the issue of American terrorism, the last time I checked, supporting assassinations of rival leaders and politicians, sponsoring Al Quaeda, and Al Quaeda like forces, bombing civilians and forcing 'democracy' on counties, weren't the most friendly things to do, either, so why is it America feels it's above it's own laws?

It's because they have the nukes.

Despite their nuclear powers, I see this war, hence forth known as WW3, to be the war which humbles America. MAYBE after this colossal failure the US government will decide to focus their attention towards the betterment of their own people, rather than the pockets of Bush, and Bush's merry band of greedy hogs.
But until then, I'm excited to see just what kind of mutants will be found in the post apocalyptic times.

[IamjustSci]

FuckingRetard...well said, very well said. The only thing that worries me is in the meantime I'm here in America, and that's not so cool the whole post-apocolyptic mutant thing. Especially since I live in Florida... Dubya's lil' brother's state, home of a fast growing population of incessant morons (but nonethless easy targets), several military and air and space bases... So frankly, this doesn't bode well for me or anyone I know. If air strikes ever actually do reach here in America, I'm pretty sure Florida would be one of the first states hit...and want to hear some more news? Want to know the main power source in the Wang of America that is Florida? NUCLEAR! That's right, so they don't even have to be nukes that hit us, just well aimed long range missles.

So if anyone out there lives here too, I suggest you do what I am doing.

Take yoga, so you can learn to bend over and kiss your ass goodbye.

That and protest a lot.