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At 2/10/06 11:18 AM, MoralLibertarian wrote: She's probably book-smart, like me. Because you can't see past tests, memorize them, and then bank on it to be exactly the same as the new test. You still have to know how to recognize the type of question and solve using new numbers or whatever.

That's what I thought at first, then I tried to tutor her.
Now it may be suprising to everyone who has read my posts... but I'm pretty good at grammar.

I tried to tutor her, and when I asked her what are nouns, verbs, adjectives and adverbs-- I swear to god, I thought her eyes were just like donuts, because I never seen any that were as glazed as hers...

She passed that grammar class last semester by looking a bunch of tests right before the big one. Passed with B minus.

You know why CA is showing a lot of substandard teachers? Because of this...

fli, that must be frustrating, but the argument could easily be made that just like a sample of the university, a sample of a sorority or fraternity would indicate that there are smart people and dumb people. The dumb don't necessarily congregate in the Greek system. They are all over campus and in many different clubs and activities. On the flip side, there are lots of geniuses like myself in the greek system.

At 2/10/06 03:51 PM, MoralLibertarian wrote: You don't have any standards other than double standards. You'll call out my study because it received money from a right-of-center think-tank. But JoS has yet to prove his study even exists and you don't question him? Yes, skunk, you're SO principled to ignore a non-partisan study that received some funding from a right-of-center group. Or you're just a simple-minded moron. I would call you partisan, but you're not: you're just full of shit.

I haven't even addressed Rugby because he hasn't provided a source to his study yet. You can sit there and attack me you want, but the fact remains that you're the one looking stupid in this thread. And speaking of which, isn't this thread about fraternities? You've had your say about how they are bastions of conservatism and that's why you feel warm and fuzzy. Anything else you wanted to say, or is this thread done?

At 2/10/06 03:57 PM, MoralLibertarian wrote: On the flip side, there are lots of geniuses like myself in the greek system.

You're hilarious. No, really. I'm laughing on the inside.

At 2/10/06 04:38 PM, redskvnk wrote: I haven't even addressed Rugby because he hasn't provided a source to his study yet. You can sit there and attack me you want, but the fact remains that you're the one looking stupid in this thread.

I didn't say you looked stupid, you just look ignorant. "Right-wing money make study meaningless. Durr." That's the sort of reasoning I expect out of some noob who can't discredit a study on its own merit. You're such a drone.

And speaking of which, isn't this thread about fraternities? You've had your say about how they are bastions of conservatism and that's why you feel warm and fuzzy. Anything else you wanted to say, or is this thread done?

It was for a while. JoS said that colleges aren't liberal and the subject changed. And no, most fraternities don't have a lot of "conservatives" in them, most of them are conveniently pro-abortion, pro-violent video games and pornography, etc. Most of the brothers in my fraternity are like the makers of South Park: they hate Bush but they are decidedly anti-liberal. The topic will be done when people have nothing left to say. Sometimes, when people have nothing left to say they'll continue to talk, as you have proven in this thread.

At 2/10/06 01:34 PM, MoralLibertarian wrote: What does that have to do with anything? All the were doing was asking professors to describe themselves as conservative or liberal.

Hmmm, EVERYTHING? If they're funding a study, they're most likely to only publish final results that conforms to their views: they could be selective in the people/schools they ask, squew results, etc.

You should never only look at ONE study. You always need more than one before making a conclusion - people sway results all the time, so by combining them all, it usually evens out.

I thought this was common knowledge....but obviously not.

I don't know if I've ever met a frat guy, they never come to class.

You gotta actually leave the classroom at some point Will.

At 2/10/06 05:31 PM, Geordi_Laforge wrote: You gotta actually leave the classroom at some point Will.

If they're the drunken assholes who come through the drive through with five seperate orders despite the fact there are only three people in the car I may have encountered a few...

Frats suck. They keep all the parties and women to themselves and wont let anyone else in.

Fuck man. I shoulda rushed.

At 2/10/06 12:27 PM, JoS wrote: If left wing is liberal then why is neo-liberalism a right wing philosphy? And dont say thats why its called neo. Are neo-NAzi's really any different than Nzais?

Cause after Vietnam, the liberal branch of American politics becamse dovish and lost the interventionism advocated by Wilson, FDR, Truman and the like.

Liberals are for the most part conservative in foreign policy and conservatives liberal in foregn policy. That is why some of the first neo-cons came from the Democratic party after the end of the Vietnam era.

Look at Paul Wolfowitz. Classic neo con. Very liberal in a foreign policy mindset.

At 2/10/06 06:19 PM, FAB0L0US wrote: Frats suck. They keep all the parties and women to themselves and wont let anyone else in.

That's not true. We are very generous with our women and parties, mostly because we want new members badly.

Fuck man. I shoulda rushed.

It's not too late.

the one thing I hate the most about the fraternity system is puking.

One pretty great thing about being in Greek life is no matter where you have a brother or sister there. Ever since i joined a sorority my weekends have been completly booked, I hang out with mostly sisters, i live with sisters, and if i ever need someone to hold my hair for me or walk me home i always have a sisters. Frats seem to be the same way. They always have a DD for after parties and seem to do what they can to make sure people don't do anything too too stupid. Problems like people dyeing from hazing and drinking and such are pretty rare actually. Frats and sororities so far have proven to keep me safer, not put me in extra danger or anything. Oh, and sorority girls aren't as dumb and slutty and many people tend to assume.

At 2/11/06 04:26 PM, themagicalpig wrote: One pretty great thing about being in Greek life is no matter where you have a brother or sister there....

I agree. Facebook me.

At 2/11/06 04:26 PM, themagicalpig wrote: Oh, and sorority girls aren't as dumb and slutty and many people tend to assume.

Thats only if you are hanging out with the wrong ones.

Thats right. I went there.

At 2/12/06 04:00 AM, FAB0L0US wrote:

At 2/11/06 04:26 PM, themagicalpig wrote: Oh, and sorority girls aren't as dumb and slutty and many people tend to assume.

Thats only if you are hanging out with the wrong ones.

Thats right. I went there.

Teehee, you made me giggle. ok, you win. There are dumb and smart, slutty and prude sorority girls. the dumb slutty ones just tend to be more social thus represent us all. :)

At 2/12/06 01:58 PM, themagicalpig wrote:

Thats right. I went there.

Teehee, you made me giggle. ok, you win. There are dumb and smart, slutty and prude sorority girls. the dumb slutty ones just tend to be more social thus represent us all. :)

They are the more popular ones, since men love dumb and easy girls.

At 2/10/06 11:20 AM, MoralLibertarian wrote:

At 2/10/06 08:16 AM, The_Jucie wrote: not all frats are training grounds for alcoholics, i am apart of a Christian Fraternity called Beta Epsilon Chi, more commonly know as Brothers Under Christ. we can drink but not at BYX events, or while wearing BYX apperal, or if you are an officer

If you don't mind me asking, how's the sex life? Do you all stay true to the principles of abstinence/celibacy? Only when you're wearing your letters, right? :) But I'm serious.

all the men in my fraternity Practice abstinence before marriage. we just dont say we are christian, we live the christian lifestyle
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I remember my one and only run in with a few frat guys, they were drunk, and one of them decided that he could take me on. 1 stun gun shot later his buddies jumped in. but man they could barely keep their balance. I kicked one of em in the kneecap and put him to the ground, then spat in the other one's eyes then pushed em to the ground.

I'm no fan of frats, I'm sure some of them have their uses, and benefit their school greatly, but many of em are worthless.

Frats are fun because of what you get when you join.

Beer, pussy, and a free pass to do whatever the fuck you want.
Uptight fuck at your party? Toss him the fuck out, hit him with beer bottles, and mack on his girl.
Frat boys can do whatever the fuck they want and get away with it. What's some res hall pansy going to do if he's mad a bunch of alcoholic alpha males? Nothing, he's going to sit and stew about how badly his life sucks. And he deserves it too.

You may think that I have no morals. Well good for you. Opinions are like assholes, and i really don't care about yours. At the end of the day, I may be immoral, but I still have more fun than you'll ever have. Fuck ethics, life is a zero sum game, and when i have an institution behind me that backs alcohol and sex, I win.

Now go on with your pseudo-intellectual debates, I'll be getting smashed and fuckin a fat chick.

I think Frats suck. They tend to make people much more arrogant and aggressive, at least from what I've seen. Drunk fools for the most part. Minor exceptions apply though, and there are a few good frats and a few good people who are into the Greek system.

At 2/9/06 08:54 PM, RedSkunk wrote: Frats are being kicked off campus left and right. My father's alma mater did just that, after a student died during a hazing.

Pfff.....My dad's got shut down after they found a body in the living room.....seems like a common occurance.....

From what I've heard, it seems like it was the actual Animal House.....oddly enough, the same people are now highly successful lawyers, engineers, a federal judge, policemen, and Michigan Senate members.......my dad's friends are an interesting bunch to say the least......

At 4/16/07 01:28 AM, Imperator wrote: I think Frats suck. They tend to make people much more arrogant and aggressive, at least from what I've seen. Drunk fools for the most part. Minor exceptions apply though, and there are a few good frats and a few good people who are into the Greek system.

Nope, we all fucking blow.

From what I've heard, it seems like it was the actual Animal House.....oddly enough, the same people are now highly successful lawyers, engineers, a federal judge, policemen, and Michigan Senate members.......my dad's friends are an interesting bunch to say the least......

All frat houses are like that. You want get into a high paying job? Join a frat get to know the alumni. Shit, 1/4 of our campus is named after alumni.

More or less, frat are just one of those institutes that makes a person better than everyone else. It just takes the pledges a little while to learn that.

i didnt go to a 4yr college... i didnt get to experience that...