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is that the only thing that worries you? There are many people who rape children, who do all that shit who are not gay. So, whats your problem?

At 2/14/06 01:10 PM, MatthewTheLion wrote: In 1990, the age of consent for homosexual sex in Holland was lowered to 12!

But the age for hetro consent is also only 12. Holland has a different take on sex and sexuality to the rest of the world.

* Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the US, which, assuming homosexuals make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20

Homosexuals make up nearer 12% of the population.

Fact: Homosexuality and crimes

* Homosexuals are 100 times more likely to be murdered (usually by another homosexual) than the average person, 25 times more likely to commit suicide (3).
* 21% of lesbians die of murder, suicide or traffic accident, which is at a rate of 534 times higher than the number of white heterosexual females aged 25-44 who die of these things

So, since homosexuals are the victims of more crimes, it is wrong? The elderly are targeted more often than the young, lets illegalise being elderly!

* About 50% of the women on death row are lesbians (7).

Correlation does not imply causality - maybe criminals are more likely to become homosexual if they are deprived of hetrosexual contact?

* Judge John Martaugh, chief magistrate of the New York City Criminal Court has said, "Homosexuals account for half the murders in large cities"

Just because someone said it, does not make it true. Watch - "I respect MatthewTheLion".

At 2/14/06 01:30 PM, Kero_the_boy_killer wrote: is that the only thing that worries you? There are many people who rape children

And most of them are homosexuals.

At 2/14/06 01:10 PM, MatthewTheLion wrote: Myth: Blah
Fact: Blah, blah.
etc

I checked out your source for all this crap and found that it brings up a lot of irrelevent information such as gay pedophilia, gay domestic violence, and a lot of sundry Bullshit.

Yes, some gays are pedophiles. But what does that mean about the rest? Nothing. I'm amazed at how often Converse Accident comes into play here: The same problem also goes with the issues of gay violence and drug use.
Furthermore, these same problems come up equally often with heterosexuals, so if gays are wrong for doing them, heterosexuals also are, and you're pretty much a horrible person if you ever show any sexual tendancies one way or the other.

Also, I spent a half hour following sources, trying to find a single actual scintilla of reaserch to back the statistics found therein. I found quite a bit: One source is a KKK pamphlet, several are church intrest groups, and most of the rest are internet publications. I did not find a single actual bit of research, not anything that cited actual research. I can only assume that the statistics were, like most on the internet, BULLSHIT.

At 2/14/06 02:40 PM, bakem0n0 wrote: Checking sources

Can I just say that you have too much time on your hands

But congratulations - you've once again proved MatthewTheLion has no greater value to humanity than re-nitrifying the soil upon his death

At 2/14/06 02:50 PM, x_Toadenalin_x wrote:

At 2/14/06 02:40 PM, bakem0n0 wrote: Checking sources

Can I just say that you have too much time on your hands

Yea, stuck in class and didn't really need to listen to the lecture, and I was actually hoping to tear into the BS science that backs these sort of things, but when it became appearent that even that much wasn't there, I just gave up.

Myth: 10% are gays
Fact: The Kinsey study of 1948, which homosexuals often cite, say that 10% of the population is homosexual. This study involved a disproportionate number of people who had been in jail for sex crimes (hardly a random sample of the population). Current research clearly shows that the true percentage of homosexuals is in the 1-3% range (9,12,14,16).

* Homosexual activist groups have finally admitted that their claim of 10% is false. This admission took place in a Friend of the Court brief filed with the U.S. Supreme Court on March 26, 2003 in the Lawrence v. Texas, known as the Texas sodomy case.

In footnote 42 on page 16 of this legal brief, 31 pro-homosexual groups admitted
the following: "The most widely accepted study of sexual practices in the United States is the National Health and Social Life Survey (NHSLS). The NHSLS found that 2.8% of the male, and 1.4% of the female, population identify themselves as gay, lesbian, or bisexual. See Laumann, et al, The Social Organization of Sex: Sexual Practices in the United States (1994)…"

Myth: Homosexuals is a disadvantaged group

In massive PR campaign, homosexual groups have devised a brilliant strategy to desensitize the public towards homosexual lifestyle, to picture them as victims in need of protection and special rights (18)
Fact: The average yearly income of a homosexual is $55,430.00 . The average of the general population is $32,144.00. 59.6% of homosexuals are college graduates. 18.0% of the general population is college graduates. 49.0% of homosexuals hold professional/managerial positions. 15.9% of the general population holds such positions (13). Where's the job discrimination?

Myth: HOMOSEXUALS ARE BORN THAT WAY

Fact: The evidence solidly supports the fact that people choose to be homosexuals. Dr. Hammer who touted that gay brain is somehow different was a gay researcher with a flawed study. Many years ago, we invited Dr. Richard Yen (Ph. D. in Genetics) to address this issue. His arguments are powerful against the gay gene theory.

No researcher has found provable biological or genetic differences between heterosexuals and homosexuals that were not caused by their behavior. In research after research, from the 1930s until the early 1970s (when a “politically correct” answer emerged), only about 10% of homosexuals claimed they were “born that way.”

Most gays become that way, because an older person initiates them into it. Most admit that their first partner was an older gay (I. Bieber, et. al.,homosexuality: A Psychoanalytic Study, 1962). Those raised in non-religious homes are more likely to become gay. Many gays and lesbians change their sexual preference, back and forth. Thousands of ex-gays have left their gay lifestyle but you will never hear of their stories in the press. Have you ever heard of ex-whites or ex-Chinese, so how can you equate the two as true minorities?

Myth: HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGES ARE HEALTHY AND HAPPY

Fact: A gay newspaper survey of nearly 8,000 found that gay couples lasted 3.5 years at the most, and lesbian couples lasted 2.2 years (P. Blum<caron>stein & P. Schwartz, American Couples, 1983). A recent study done in The Netherlands, which already has same-sex "marriage," showed an average of a year and a half.

The various studies reveal that children of gays are more than 3 times as likely to become homosexual than children in traditional homes (P. & K. Cameron, J. Psychology, 1997, 131:1-20). Dozens of court cases show that children of homosexuals are more apt to be sexually molested by a parent (Ibid.).

Little-known statistics about the Homosexual lifestyle’s negative impact on health and society: (Keep in mind they constitute only 1-2% of population)

* One study reports that the average homosexual has between 20 and 106 partners per year (2). The average heterosexual has 8 partners in a lifetime. One study reports that 43% of homosexuals asked admit to 500 or more partners in a lifetime, 28% admit to 1000 or more in a lifetime, and of these people, 79% say that half of those partners are total strangers! Is not this highly risky behavior and San Francisco wants to sanction this?

Homosexuals account for 60% of all syphilis cases (1). Homosexuals have historically accounted for the bulk of gonorrhea, Hepatitis B, TB, etc.(15).

73% of psychiatrists say homosexuals are less happy than the average person, and of those psychiatrists, 70% say that the unhappiness is NOT due to social stigmatization (8).

* 25-33% of homosexuals and lesbians are alcoholics (6).

* 50% of suicides can be attributed to homosexuals (5).

* Homosexuals account for well over 50% of the AIDS cases in the US. It takes approximately $300,000 to take care of each AIDS victim. This is one reason our insurance rates has gone through the roof! (5). How can they claim that what they engage in do not affect the rest of us?

* Homosexuals account for a disproportionate number of hepatitis cases: 70-80% in San Francisco, 66% in New York City. (3).
* 37% of homosexuals engage in sadomasochism. The 1980 CBS-TV Documantary, Gay Power, Gay Politics, reported that about 10% of the accidental deaths among young men in San Francisco resulted from such bizarre sex. 64% of the sexual encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs (3).

So? Are you disparaging homosexuals for being smart or working hard?

Are you offended by them making more than you ever will? Are you not tired of being an asshole and a homophobe? Maybe you're just scared, or maybe you're gay and trying to cover it up.

Homosexuals ARE discriminated against, but they ARE normal people who deserve the rights/priveligest given to everyone else, namely things like insurance benefits for spouses, the right to marry, the option to adopt children, visitation rights for spouses/partners who are ill etc. anyone who doesn't agree with this on religious or so-called factual grounds is clearly a homophobe.

At 2/14/06 03:25 PM, MatthewTheLion wrote: More crap from the same BS source.

Okay, so I already saw the first load of crap you pulled from that site. I mentioned that it is pure bullshit. You then respond by copying more crap from the same source.
You are clearly either too illiterate to read my post, too stupid to simply provide a link, or too inconsiderate to realize that posting all of that crap rather than a simple link is annoying and considered spam. I sincerely hope you get banned for wasting space.

If you can't debate intelligently, don't debate at all.

At 2/14/06 03:25 PM, MatthewTheLion wrote: * Homosexual activist groups have finally admitted that their claim of 10% is false. This admission took place in a Friend of the Court brief filed with the U.S. Supreme Court on March 26, 2003 in the Lawrence v. Texas, known as the Texas sodomy case.

In footnote 42 on page 16 of this legal brief, 31 pro-homosexual groups admitted
the following: "The most widely accepted study of sexual practices in the United States is the National Health and Social Life Survey (NHSLS). The NHSLS found that 2.8% of the male, and 1.4% of the female, population identify themselves as gay, lesbian, or bisexual. See Laumann, et al, The Social Organization of Sex: Sexual Practices in the United States (1994)…"

So because there are fewer homosexuals (which I DOUBT) means that they don't deserve basic rights? You are a true loser.

Myth: Homosexuals is a disadvantaged group

In massive PR campaign, homosexual groups have devised a brilliant strategy to desensitize the public towards homosexual lifestyle, to picture them as victims in need of protection and special rights (18)

They are discriminated against, and you're a prime example.

Fact: The average yearly income of a homosexual is $55,430.00 . The average of the general population is $32,144.00. 59.6% of homosexuals are college graduates. 18.0% of the general population is college graduates. 49.0% of homosexuals hold professional/managerial positions. 15.9% of the general population holds such positions (13). Where's the job discrimination?

Because they're smarter than average americans, maybe they are better off. You're just POed because you'll never be as successful, perhaps.

Most gays become that way, because an older person initiates them into it. Most admit that their first partner was an older gay (I. Bieber, et. al.,homosexuality: A Psychoanalytic Study, 1962). Those raised in non-religious homes are more likely to become gay. Many gays and lesbians change their sexual preference, back and forth. Thousands of ex-gays have left their gay lifestyle but you will never hear of their stories in the press. Have you ever heard of ex-whites or ex-Chinese, so how can you equate the two as true minorities?

What the hell are you saying here?

Myth: HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGES ARE HEALTHY AND HAPPY

Fact: A gay newspaper survey of nearly 8,000 found that gay couples lasted 3.5 years at the most, and lesbian couples lasted 2.2 years (P. Blum<caron>stein & P. Schwartz, American Couples, 1983). A recent study done in The Netherlands, which already has same-sex "marriage," showed an average of a year and a half.

Straight divorces are going through the roof too. I DOUBT YOUR SOURCE, again.

The various studies reveal that children of gays are more than 3 times as likely to become homosexual than children in traditional homes (P. & K. Cameron, J. Psychology, 1997, 131:1-20).

Yeah, so?

Dozens of court cases show that children of homosexuals are more apt to be sexually molested by a parent (Ibid.).

I doubt that!

Homosexuals account for 60% of all syphilis cases (1). Homosexuals have historically accounted for the bulk of gonorrhea, Hepatitis B, TB, etc.(15).

Doubt it. Show me a REAL source.

* 25-33% of homosexuals and lesbians are alcoholics (6).

If this is true, IF, then compare it to the straight population.

* 50% of suicides can be attributed to homosexuals (5).

Riiiiiiight....and little bunnies fly out of my ass when I take a shit.

* Homosexuals account for well over 50% of the AIDS cases in the US.

Doubt it.

It takes approximately $300,000 to take care of each AIDS victim.

If not more.

This is one reason our insurance rates has gone through the roof! (5). How can they claim that what they engage in do not affect the rest of us?

Because this is crap. And this isn't a legitimate source. Increased costs are due to physicians having to pay exorbitant sums for malpractice insurance that most will never need, and because of waste and lack of paying for preventive treatments!

* Homosexuals account for a disproportionate number of hepatitis cases: 70-80% in San Francisco, 66% in New York City. (3).

Show me real proof.

* 37% of homosexuals engage in sadomasochism. The 1980 CBS-TV Documantary, Gay Power, Gay Politics, reported that about 10% of the accidental deaths among young men in San Francisco resulted from such bizarre sex. 64% of the sexual encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs (3).

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ONE BIT.

At 2/14/06 03:29 PM, mackid wrote: So? Are you disparaging homosexuals for being smart or working hard?

No.

Are you offended by them making more than you ever will?

Not really.

I don't care about how much money a person makes. After all, life is more than just the accumulation of wealth.

Are you not tired of being an asshole and a homophobe?

Are you not tired of being intransigent and unscrupulous?

Maybe you're just scared,

I fear nobody but God.

or maybe you're gay and trying to cover it up.

Well the jury is still out on that one. <LOL>

Homosexuals ARE discriminated against,

<sarcasm> What a surprise. <sarcasm>

but they ARE normal people

That they may be, but their lifestyle isn't.

At 2/13/06 08:58 PM, altanese_mistress wrote:

At 2/13/06 06:19 PM, 1WingedDragon wrote: Damn bitch, get off the rag. No one likes a pmser on newgrounds.

This is the response you had to me earlier when I got mad at someone. So I must ask; why do you assume that if a female gets angry she is on her period?

Actually, I was bored. You are usually a person with a calm demeanor. I just said it too you after you e-exploded on Draginus (even though he deserved it) I just like using it as ammo when I'm bored. Don't read too much into it. ;)

At 2/13/06 09:50 PM, Kero_the_boy_killer wrote:

At 2/13/06 06:19 PM, 1WingedDragon wrote:

At 2/13/06 06:04 PM, Kero_the_boy_killer wrote: Stupid, idiot, go drown yourself or something

Damn bitch, get off the rag. No one likes a pmser on newgrounds.

Calm down, honey. Puberty is a feirce thing, and it's hitting full blast on you. So don't let it take over.

Hmm, weren't you the one who was actually getting mad at what the Bible-Thumper said? I rest my case.

hahaha

people suck

At 2/15/06 01:19 AM, sheffgb wrote: hahaha

people suck

hahaha

People who can't use capitalization and punctuation suck.
And people who post useless crap to up their post counts suck even worse.

... and of course Mathew doesn't want to talk about the flaws in his argument pointed out. But then again I saw that comming.

At 2/15/06 04:47 AM, ReiperX wrote: ... and of course Mathew doesn't want to talk about the flaws in his argument pointed out. But then again I saw that comming.

Flaws? What flaws?

At 2/15/06 09:51 AM, MatthewTheLion wrote:

At 2/15/06 04:47 AM, ReiperX wrote: ... and of course Mathew doesn't want to talk about the flaws in his argument pointed out. But then again I saw that comming.

Flaws? What flaws?

Judge not less ye be judged matthew. or howabout do unto as you would have them do unto you.

At 2/15/06 11:16 AM, RedGlare wrote: Judge not less ye be judged matthew. or howabout do unto as you would have them do unto you.

The Bible tells Christians to test all things, ourselves included (2 Cor. 13:5 and 1 Jn. 4:1). And Jesus Himself commanded us "to judge with righteous judgment" (John 7:24).

Besides, I don't need to judge anybody. They have already judged themselves by their words and deeds.

At 2/15/06 11:30 AM, MatthewTheLion wrote:

At 2/15/06 11:16 AM, RedGlare wrote: Judge not less ye be judged matthew. or howabout do unto as you would have them do unto you.

The Bible tells Christians to test all things, ourselves included (2 Cor. 13:5 and 1 Jn. 4:1). And Jesus Himself commanded us "to judge with righteous judgment" (John 7:24).

You are aware that by blindly following rules you aren't actually saving your soul you have to do it your own way.

Besides, I don't need to judge anybody. They have already judged themselves by their words and deeds.

Could of fooled me.

At 2/15/06 11:34 AM, RedGlare wrote: You are aware that by blindly following rules you aren't actually saving your soul you have to do it your own way.

What in the Cypress Hill are you talking about?

At 2/15/06 11:36 AM, MatthewTheLion wrote:

At 2/15/06 11:34 AM, RedGlare wrote: You are aware that by blindly following rules you aren't actually saving your soul you have to do it your own way.

What in the Cypress Hill are you talking about?

I'm talking about how your arguements involve the bible. This gives the impression that you have no opinions of your own which is why i and most others find your arguements flimsy.

I know someone who is a Jahovah's Witness and they are openly against homosexuals, etc. He believes that homosexuals are "defective" and that they make the choice to actually be gay.

I can not believe a religion can give information like this to their followers but I guess you can't stop them from disliking homosexuals.

At 2/15/06 11:43 AM, RedGlare wrote: I'm talking about how your arguements involve the bible. This gives the impression that you have no opinions of your own which is why i and most others find your arguements flimsy.

Whatever you say, Hillary.

At 2/15/06 11:55 AM, MatthewTheLion wrote:

At 2/15/06 11:43 AM, RedGlare wrote:

Whatever you say, Hillary.

Well if you were trying to prove my point mission acomplished. You are aware that Jesus told us to leave those alone who did not wan't to listen

At 2/15/06 11:58 AM, RedGlare wrote:

At 2/15/06 11:55 AM, MatthewTheLion wrote:

At 2/15/06 11:43 AM, RedGlare wrote:

Whatever you say, Hillary.

Well if you were trying to prove my point mission acomplished. You are aware that Jesus told us to leave those alone who did not wan't to listen

"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations." (Matthew 28:19)

"And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature." (Mark 16:15)

At 2/15/06 12:22 PM, MatthewTheLion wrote: "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations." (Matthew 28:19)

"And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature." (Mark 16:15)

Have you got any arguements of your own or are you just going to ignore us and keep posting things over and over and over again?

At 2/15/06 01:10 PM, RedGlare wrote: Have you got any arguements of your own or are you just going to ignore us and keep posting things over and over and over again?

You want my opinion? Very well then.

Homosexuality is sick and wrong. Anybody who disagrees should contract every known and unknown sexually transmitted disease and die a most painful death.

Happy?

At 2/15/06 09:51 AM, MatthewTheLion wrote:

At 2/15/06 04:47 AM, ReiperX wrote: ... and of course Mathew doesn't want to talk about the flaws in his argument pointed out. But then again I saw that comming.

Flaws? What flaws?

bakem0n0 tracked down your sources and pointed out a few real nice details to how, well well funded of research it was <coughkkkpamplets>.

At 2/15/06 01:10 PM, RedGlare wrote: Have you got any arguements of your own or are you just going to ignore us and keep posting things over and over and over again?

You want my opinion? Very well then.

Homosexuality is sick and wrong. Anybody who disagrees should contract every known and unknown sexually transmitted disease and die a most painful death.

Happy?

Now wouldn't that opinion just go against what Jesus taught? Now instead of just posting random verses from the Bible, why don't you sit down, actually read the Bible and try to understand the overall message of the Bible instead of just reading and posting random verses to make you seem smart and make you look like you are doing what God would have wanted you to do. I've probally read the Bible more than you have.

At 2/15/06 01:29 PM, ReiperX wrote: KKK pamphlets.

If Hitler said that 2+2=4 and Gandhi said that 2+2=5, who would be right?

Now wouldn't that opinion just go against what Jesus taught?

I was only kidding. I just wanted to see what kind of reaction I would stir up. That's all.