looks like it's starting over again

[Joodah]

as you guys probably already know, several european newspapers have printed cartoons making fun of muhammed. syria and one other arab nation have destroyed the offending european embassies. however, since these nations are members of nato, the us has the authority to go to war with syria and the other country because of the joint defense clause in the nato agreement. this should be interesting, as one of the us secretaries said that the us will hold any nation who commits an act of war responsible for its actions.

so sometime soon we get to crush syria. happy day.

[JoS]

That would only apply if it was agents of the state who committed those actions acting on behalf of the state. If rioters or mobs of citizens destroy an embassy the host state cannot be held responsible for that.

[Imperator]

so sometime soon we get to crush syria. happy day.

Riots and mobs protesting a cartoon are slightly different than organized precision acts of war........

[AnkhX100]

At 2/5/06 11:51 PM, Joodah wrote: as you guys probably already know, several european newspapers have printed cartoons making fun of muhammed. syria and one other arab nation have destroyed the offending european embassies. however, since these nations are members of nato, the us has the authority to go to war with syria and the other country because of the joint defense clause in the nato agreement. this should be interesting, as one of the us secretaries said that the us will hold any nation who commits an act of war responsible for its actions.

so sometime soon we get to crush syria. happy day.

Actually, it's not an act of war, since the attack wasn't made by the Syrian and Lebanonese govt., but by rioters. So no war. Period.

[Joodah]

both true, but these actions must have taken place with the governments approval, or at least the gov't turning a blind eye towards the embassies going boom.

[Joodah]

At 2/5/06 11:55 PM, AnkhX100 wrote:

At 2/5/06 11:51 PM, Joodah wrote:

Actually, it's not an act of war, since the attack wasn't made by the Syrian and Lebanonese govt., but by rioters. So no war. Period.

didja find the quote? he said that the gov't had to have known about the people commiting the action.

[Imperator]

At 2/5/06 11:56 PM, Joodah wrote: both true, but these actions must have taken place with the governments approval, or at least the gov't turning a blind eye towards the embassies going boom.

You really don't know what the hell you're talking about, do you......

I'm sure the Detriot riots were government sponsored too.........

[Joodah]

At 2/5/06 11:58 PM, Imperator wrote:

At 2/5/06 11:56 PM, Joodah wrote: both true, but these actions must have taken place with the governments approval, or at least the gov't turning a blind eye towards the embassies going boom.

You really don't know what the hell you're talking about, do you......

I'm sure the Detriot riots were government sponsored too.........

not the same thing at all. the countries are different sizes(obviuosly) so it is harder for the government to project nonlethal as easily, and the muslim governments keep a much tighter reign on their subjects than us americans.

[AnkhX100]

Okay, so why did the Syrians and Lebanese govt. deployed police, fire crews to disperse the crowds, and why did the Interior Minister of Lebanon resign over this issue? Had they have known, would they of bothered to do all they have done? Yeah, many of these countries have cut dilomatic relations with Denmark, but they are not as stupid to try to burn down the Danish Embassy.

At 2/5/06 11:57 PM, Joodah wrote: didja find the quote? he said that the gov't had to have known about the people commiting the action.

[Imperator]

Alright, name some things the government would gain by being associated with buring down embasies.......

[Joodah]

At 2/6/06 12:02 AM, Imperator wrote: Alright, name some things the government would gain by being associated with buring down embasies.......

a reputation for -strength and not taking crap from anyone- in the muslim areas of the world.

Sometimes the truth hurts.

[The-Last-Cynic]

Matt, just curious...
What are your thoughts on Salman Rushdie?

[darklad]

At 2/5/06 11:51 PM, Joodah wrote:

so sometime soon we get to crush syria. happy day.

wow, i forget how heartless westerners are, "crush" syria you say? and what? cause grief to an addition 20 million civilians? crush their economy and test your weopens on? put them through the hell of war and install a fake democracy to ensure western controll on the country and turn it into another western consumer and destroy it's self suffiecientcy? your just keep skipping and fucking countries over dontcha?

At 2/6/06 03:44 PM, The_Last_Cynic wrote: Matt, just curious...
What are your thoughts on Salman Rushdie?

Never heard of him.

[DrunkenNinjer]

At 2/5/06 11:51 PM, Joodah wrote: (blah)

so sometime soon we get to crush syria. happy day.

I hope we can get in Syria, burn their flag infront of them.

[darklad]

At 2/6/06 04:40 PM, DrunkenNinjer wrote:

I hope we can get in Syria, burn their flag infront of them.

whatre ya? 11 or something, and don't mind to answer, cuz if your not, it ain't a shred better

[mjairlax]

At 2/6/06 03:37 PM, MatthewTheLion wrote: Sometimes the truth hurts.

don't bring that up. i could rattle off parts of the old testament for you that are identical to those in the Koran

[HighlyIllogical]

Syria is a threat to the region and a threat to Israel (quite possibly). So are Lebanon and Iran, but Iran is the BIGGEST threat of all.

[Joodah]

At 2/6/06 03:49 PM, Seven_Of_Nine wrote:

At 2/5/06 11:57 PM, Joodah wrote:

At 2/5/06 11:55 PM, AnkhX100 wrote:

At 2/5/06 11:51 PM, Joodah wrote:

The way you talk, I really disbelieve you are a real Jew and I don't think you've ever been to Israel.

not all jews are the same, i consider myself to have a unique point of view.
and have you ever been to israel?

[Joodah]

At 2/6/06 03:57 PM, darklad wrote:

At 2/5/06 11:51 PM, Joodah wrote:

so sometime soon we get to crush syria. happy day.

wow, i forget how heartless westerners are, "crush" syria you say? and what? cause grief to an addition 20 million civilians? crush their economy and test your weopens on? put them through the hell of war and install a fake democracy to ensure western controll on the country and turn it into another western consumer and destroy it's self suffiecientcy? your just keep skipping and fucking countries over dontcha?

mmmhmmm. and you're from jordan? you call the WESTERNERS cruel and grief causing?
i'll just leave it at that.

[HighlyIllogical]

At 2/6/06 07:27 PM, Joodah wrote:

At 2/6/06 03:49 PM, Seven_Of_Nine wrote:

At 2/5/06 11:57 PM, Joodah wrote:

At 2/5/06 11:55 PM, AnkhX100 wrote:

At 2/5/06 11:51 PM, Joodah wrote:

The way you talk, I really disbelieve you are a real Jew and I don't think you've ever been to Israel.

not all jews are the same, i consider myself to have a unique point of view.
and have you ever been to israel?

Joodah, you're talking about invading Syria as a good thing. To a point, it is.

[SolInvictus]

At 2/6/06 07:29 PM, Joodah wrote:

mmmhmmm. and you're from jordan? you call the WESTERNERS cruel and grief causing?
i'll just leave it at that.

actually i'm from Canada and i call westerners cruel and grief causing (westerner means i'm not singling out the US so don't start on that)

[Lhotun]

At 2/6/06 03:37 PM, MatthewTheLion wrote: Sometimes the truth hurts.

I'm not sure what that has to do with truth. The first paragraph is horribly wrong and it just gets worse from there.

If you think Muhammad is the only prophet in Islam, quit talking, you know nothing about it.

[Joodah]

At 2/6/06 09:17 PM, shi_huangdi wrote:

At 2/6/06 07:29 PM, Joodah wrote:

mmmhmmm. and you're from jordan? you call the WESTERNERS cruel and grief causing?
i'll just leave it at that.

actually i'm from Canada and i call westerners cruel and grief causing (westerner means i'm not singling out the US so don't start on that)

heh. you may be right. i was just saying its the pot calling the kettle black.

[Memorize]

At 2/6/06 09:17 PM, shi_huangdi wrote:

actually i'm from Canada and i call westerners cruel and grief causing (westerner means i'm not singling out the US so don't start on that)

Good! I perfer not to be like you wimpy, pathetic hippies.

[darklad]

At 2/6/06 10:33 PM, Joodah wrote:

At 2/6/06 09:17 PM, shi_huangdi wrote:

At 2/6/06 07:29 PM, Joodah wrote:

mmmhmmm. and you're from jordan? you call the WESTERNERS cruel and grief causing?
i'll just leave it at that.

actually i'm from Canada and i call westerners cruel and grief causing (westerner means i'm not singling out the US so don't start on that)

heh. you may be right. i was just saying its the pot calling the kettle black.

i would be a bullshitter if i claimed i was in an area with nothing but pure intentions, but still we didn't reach the west's level, though i know most of the people in the west are nice people, but the goverments i'm afraid are not

[SolInvictus]

At 2/6/06 10:35 PM, AccessCode wrote:

At 2/6/06 09:17 PM, shi_huangdi wrote:

actually i'm from Canada and i call westerners cruel and grief causing (westerner means i'm not singling out the US so don't start on that)

Good! I perfer not to be like you wimpy, pathetic hippies.

nicely done proving that you're an idiot without anything to add to this

[The-Dran]

At 2/6/06 09:26 PM, Lhotun wrote:

At 2/6/06 03:37 PM, MatthewTheLion wrote: Sometimes the truth hurts.

I'm not sure what that has to do with truth. The first paragraph is horribly wrong and it just gets worse from there.

If you think Muhammad is the only prophet in Islam, quit talking, you know nothing about it.

He's quite right... in Islam, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus are also considered prophets, but they aren't considered the "true" prophet of god. Basically what Muhammad did was make a religion out of Judaism, Christianity, and Local Arabian customs and basically perfected it to such a large degree. So greatly that most muslims, "true muslims", are actually more peaceful and tranquil than almost all the Jews and Christians and Athiests put together.

It may not make much sense to you, but if you bother to study Islam completely like I have, you would understand and appreciate it's beauty and harmony. Islam is a religion of peace.

And by the way 30% of all news coverage is fabricated, I wouldn't be surprised if those riots were actually less intense than they were told about in the news. After all Europe really isn't that much different from the United States.

[DaRKNeZz1]

At 2/6/06 04:40 PM, DrunkenNinjer wrote:

At 2/5/06 11:51 PM, Joodah wrote: (blah)

so sometime soon we get to crush syria. happy day.

I hope we can get in Syria, burn their flag infront of them.

OH SNAP!