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HA HA, thats funny what a shit storm a topic like this can stir up. I don't care about fags, I don't give a fuck if they get married, I don't give a fuck if they get a kid (although I do feel bad for that kid) "daddy why do I have another daddy?" or the same with two dykes. Personally I think the world is coming to an end anyway, it's all so fucked up so who cares. Let the Fags And the Lesbo's marry, im tired of hearing about it, let them all give eachother aids and then the gay rights problem will be over. ha ha ha ha fuck you all, suck my dick

That's the sort of post that makes you be ashamed of being the same species.

Hey, I was just wondering what the people here consider "natural" anyway.

What's "natural" for humans isn't the same as what's "natural" for animals. After all, if we all only participated in "natural" behavior, then I doubt NG would exist. Do you consider writing about gays on an internet forum to be "natural behavior?" Heh heh.

Obviously, humans have gone behond the mindless instincts of animals to some extent. If not, then you wouldn't be sitting here typing. So if we are all allowed to break the bounds of animal or "natural" behavior, why are gays suddenly not allowed the same ability? We humans can think behond animal insticts. One example of this, is being able to conciously choose who we love regardless of "instinct" (to some extent). And gays are the most obvious of examples of this.
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One thing that makes me mad about people sometimes (especially guys, no offense), is that there are so many people I know of who get off of seeing two members of the opposite sex "get it on" with one another (I'm talking about lesbo porn, mostly >_<'). I mean jeez! Check out some of the porn ads on NG! @_o'

So, they get off of this for their own sexual benefit. But when it comes to people being really gay, then "that's not allowed!" or "that's not natural!" or then "it's a sin" (while them getting off of it isn't. lol. OK).

I also notice that there are many guys who like seeing gay women together, but then they get "offended" when they see gay men. OK, so having gay girls is OK, because you can get off on it, but seeing gay men isn't allowed, because "that's just wrong.".....I'm sure many of you can name at least someone you know who is this way. Heh heh.

Oh, well. After all, we all know that gay people shouldn't be gay......unless they're hot and we can watch them. Otherwise, "it's not natural" or "wrong" or "against God's will."

But people getting off on gay porno, is "perfectly natural" itself. Yeah, tell that to God. Heh heh.

Hypocritical. @_o'

And in response to what I was saying before....

There seems to be many individuals from DAG here, who think that being gay is "wrong."

......But apparently, they thought it would make a cool banner, anyway.

After all, it's not "wrong" when it's makes us "hot," right? Just when it's real. Heh heh. ^_-

At 1/6/03 07:17 PM, jazz_mazter wrote: Simply by being gay you violate the very mandate of life, which is to live, populate, expand, and repopulate. That is nature, thus adversly, gay is not natural.

To Quote the great philosopher Socrates
"Fuck You and your republican bullshit nonesense."
Why? Why waste your time decrying the lifestyles of others? I'm sure that you yourself strive for happiness. Everyone does. So why Spend valuble time trying to deny that privelege from others?

At 5/15/03 08:05 PM, Facethatisyours wrote: Why? Why waste your time decrying the lifestyles of others? I'm sure that you yourself strive for happiness. Everyone does. So why Spend valuble time trying to deny that privelege from others?

Nice, Facethatisyours.

"Live and Let Live."

That's how it should be. ^_^

Wow...way to steal my banner...you still haven't come to post on the DAG message board...we are still waiting to hear from you...our grill is now ready, and the coals burn hot...yes being gay is wrong...damn right! Put gays off on some island away from the normals...

I noticed all of the people who posted basically "GAY SUX" posts avoided cross-examining my long-winded opinion on the subject. Could it be that it was one of the few researched ones in this thread that happened to be Pro-Gay?

At 5/15/03 08:58 PM, cannibal7878 wrote: Wow...way to steal my banner...you still haven't come to post on the DAG message board...we are still waiting to hear from you...our grill is now ready, and the coals burn hot...yes being gay is wrong...damn right! Put gays off on some island away from the normals...

Pretty ironic you feel that way since you seem to like looking at gays so much. And I didn't "steal it." I was using it as an example to support my points. Why the hell would I want that thing? @_o' It's nasty (which I'm sure you're proud of).

Grills? What the hell little fantasy world are you living in boy? Heh heh. By God! Jeez kid, how old are you anyway? You have no bleepin idea how hard I laughed at that. :D

And what was with that little giant cross thing on your last posts? lol. Jeez, get over yourself! That devil looks like a painted "dancing baby" from those old stupid commercials. Heh heh. I sincerely hope that some little internet forum group isn't what you've compacted your whole world into. Not at such a young age, anyway.

Oh, and why do you want me to go to the DAG forum? I glanced at it once a while back, and all I could see was some members talking about how "great they are," glorifying this "DAG" thing, and complaining to their little friends when someone in another forum contradicted their points and made them cry (or whatever).

So, let me get this straight. In one of my posts I listed examples of indivuduals in my city or in the media who have been inhibiting the freedom of speech of others. Funk replied, "oh yeah, well the government had nothing to do with that." Then I said, "Uh, I wasn't talking about the government. I was giving examples of individuals."

And because of that one line, I'm "giving Funk a hard time?" Boy, he must be pretty weak to complain about something like that....especially since it's true (I didn't mention the government at all in the post he was responding to).

Appologize for "what you've done?" I don't know, what have I done? Oh no, I corrected some 15 year old kid who thought I was talking about the government. Oh my, what have I done? @_o' Jeez, I thought you members of "DAG" (or whatever) were supposed to be "tough" or something and not care about the opinions of others.

You go around trying to contradict everyone. And then one of you happens to make a few mistakes in understanding the points someone else is trying to make, and then when they're corrected by that person you get "offended?" Pretty ironic. God forbid man, get over it. @_o'

Oh, and I did respond to what you said in that same topic. But there's no way I'm going to "apologize" for telling Funk "I wasn't talking about the government" and saying that he contradicts himself a lot (which he does). Go read some of his posts or some of mine and try to understand where I'm coming from before you decide to "come to the rescue" of your little buddy. Trust me, it'll help. ^_-

Peace out.

At 5/15/03 08:58 PM, cannibal7878 wrote: Wow...way to steal my banner...you still haven't come to post on the DAG message board...we are still waiting to hear from you...our grill is now ready, and the coals burn hot...yes being gay is wrong...damn right! Put gays off on some island away from the normals...

I dont consider you normal at all.

LOL, ninja, and you jimmy boy make me laugh...as far as my age...guess it, I am older than you, and obviously more experienced than you. They way you defend gay people, makes me think that you are gay...I feel bad for you in a way, well maybe I don't. If I was gay, I would kill myself. And Jimmy, no I ain't normal...but I sure as hell ain't gay! The DAG are tough, we are your hate, anger, pain, sadness, we are everything...we are in everything...you cannot upset us, for we fuel all the fires that burn so radiently.

At 5/15/03 11:33 PM, cannibal7878 wrote: And Jimmy, no I ain't normal...but I sure as hell ain't gay!

Could've fooled me...

But in all seriousness, I really don't think you should discriminate against homosexuals by not letting them marry. Marriage isn't just about being "between a man and a woman" but it also means a bonding of two souls of people who are in love. If two homosexual people are in love with each other, there is absolutely nothing wrong with marriage. Why should sexual preference have anything to do with whether or not you're allowed to get married? Besides, homosexuals are just like everyone else. They're just regular, normal people and some people, like this cannibal7878, are too homophobic to see past their biased opinion against them. I almost feel sorry for him. Almost.

At 5/15/03 11:33 PM, cannibal7878 wrote: LOL, ninja, and you jimmy boy make me laugh...as far as my age...guess it, I am older than you, and obviously more experienced than you. They way you defend gay people, makes me think that you are gay...I feel bad for you in a way, well maybe I don't. If I was gay, I would kill myself. And Jimmy, no I ain't normal...but I sure as hell ain't gay! The DAG are tough, we are your hate, anger, pain, sadness, we are everything...we are in everything...you cannot upset us, for we fuel all the fires that burn so radiently.

1) You are sooo not 23! No 23 year old man would go on an internet forum and pretend to be part of a group that makes fake little "Magic the Gathering" rip off quotes about how they're evil and cool they are. "Avenge my posts with the spirits of the magic flames of hell and dark sourcerers and magic ponies.....Oh, yeah, you're 23, huh? Pikachu, I choose you. OK my friend...YOU are gay.

Please. Here's what I see. I see a group of 14-17 year old boys who are too much of losers to be able to communicate well with anyone else in the real world (and apparently, especially women). So they go on the internet and tell everyone that they're big buff 23 year old men, and try to talk people down to make up for their lack of real life communication skills and feel better about themselves. Classic. And although they pretend to be in their 20's, they give away their true maturities by joining a little internet group that tries to sound tough and bases it's lingo on "Magic the Gathering," and even includes a similar fictional higharchy which makes them feel important about themselves, since no one else here (or in their pathetic lives) probably does. And they have the common misconception that other people on the forum find a group of teenage boys who complain about issues they know nothing about and who talk about mystical lands and dungeons as important, cool, and valid as they themselves feel they are. They even include a cute little picture of a chubby cartoon devil to convey the message that they are "outlaws" (ooo), which makes them feel even more manly---something they apparently desperately need---and makes them feel like they belong somewhere, because they don't "belong" in real life or are outcasted by the rest of society and have to be satisfied with living their lives through the internet and with "virtual friends" where they can successfully pretend they are someone else and where no one can know what pathetic loser lives they may live. They pretend to be fighting on the stances of individuals, yet they are the only people who argue on this forum in a group. They act tough, yet are often the first ones to faulter and go crying on one another shoulders asking for backup (*cough* *cough* Sound familiar?), because they cannot take standing their ground on their own....like real men. Then when they are proven wrong, they run and ask one another for help in critisizing the person since they are too pathetic to be able to do it themselves (again, sound familiar?). And they continue to make stupid threats, which sound suspiciously similar to "Lord of the Rings" lingo, to people so that they can feel better about themselves and make up for their lack in debating skills in the previous arguments. They like to try to spark arguments in people, but when they are cornered themseves, they have to run to one another for help. You are probably angry at gay people, because even they get more dates than a sci-fi nerd like you ever will.

"The DAG are tough, we are your hate, anger, pain, sadness, we are everything...we are in everything...you cannot upset us, for we fuel all the fires that burn so radiently."

We are tough and cool! We "fuel the fires that burn so radiently!" Heh heh. Did you think that all by yourself, boy, or borrow it from a Star Trek comic? You're "everything?" No, I'll tell you what you are. You are some kid on an internet forum who desperatly wants attention from people who don't listen to him. Who nobody knows and who nobody cares about. This little internet group may be "everything" to you, but I assure you that does not apply to the rest of us in the real world. And it sure seems like I upsetted you if you bothered to take a pitcture of me and alter it in photoshop just to "get me back." Ooooo, lol.

Funkbrs: "At 5/14/03 10:19 PM, cannibal7878 wrote:

Bow down before the almighty DAG, we will make all those against us, suffer for not taking the almighty mark of St. Dag...

Hey cannibal, wanna do me a favor? Ninja_Scientist has been all up my ass lately because she cant convince me to be a lefty. She keeps ragging on me about how I'm stupid and contradict myself. Why dont you show her how to fear the DAG?"

Go, my minion, and wreak havok among the infidel whose name is Ninja_Scientist!"

Go my minion? Fear the DAG? Now do you see why we all doubt you're in your 20s, kids? Also, I contradicted you once and you have to go running to your little sci-fi friends for help? My god man! You'd think that some "23 year old man" would be able to handle an 18 year old chick by himself. But no, he needs to go run to his nerdy friends. Stand up to me yourself, puss! Frankly, I don't care if you are "right or left." You kept getting confused by my arguments and contradicting yourself while resonding to my posts. Just because I kept having to break down what I was talking about to you a few times, I hurt your feelings? Sorry if I made you sound like an idiot, but that's not my fault. You need to actually read my posts before responding to them.

cannibal: "Where do I find this moron of a person who goes by the name Ninja_scientist...? Take me to them so that I may inflict them with the almighty power of St. Dag...they shall beg for death...but I won't let them die...suffering and pain but no death, death will flee from them...yes, fear the almighty dag...
666"

"When the thousand years have ended, Satan will be released from his prison and will come out to deceive the nations at the four corners of the earth, Gog, and Magog, in order to gather them for battle; they are as numerous as the sands of the sea. I am the prophet of the Dag...I have come to inform and gather for the almighty war that is armageddon...give heed to my call..."

Almight power os St. DAG? "Suffering and pain but no death, death will flee from them?" Um...You do realize that this is some miniscule forum on the internet, right? You know, the sad thing is that I've now learned to take you seriously when you start talking like this. Gog and Magog? Where'd you get that from? Lord of the Rings?

.....all in all. We may, "make you laugh," but you must realize that you make the rest of this forum laugh. You mostly ingore the real topics and focus on talking about "mighty dungeons" while insulting people, then go "hey, why does no one take DAG seriously?" or "hey, why does no one believe I'm 23 years old?"

Just keep on playing your Magic the Gathering games, and reading your Lord of the Rings books and Captin America comics. No one in this political forum wants to hear it (even if some of you are hopefully hopefully joking).
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2) No, I' m not gay. I'm just not an ass to people ^_^. And I'm especially not a paranoid little ass who wants to desperatly act manly by spraying what he thinks is manly gargon, like "gay people suck my dick *grrrr* *grrrr*." or "If I was gay, I'd kill myself. *grrr* *grrr*" No, I guess I'm not as "skilled a debator" as you are. lol. Frankly, I think you "protest too much." Heh heh. ^_-
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Yeeeee-haaaa! Well, there ya go. I hope I wasn't too cruel. Just getting out what I honestly think. Will you quit bugging me for a "response" and get back to the actual topics now? Heh heh. Oh, and I appologize if there is a single member of DAG who is actually an intelligent person. But, as some advice to you, it's not our fault if we don't take your "mystical group" seriously. If you really do want the rest of this forum to take your group seriously, then I suggest you watch who you allow in first. *wink wink*

You really make me laugh ninja...you think you know it all...typical for a female...but oh well, all is fair in love and war. I will continue to post where I want, when I want...proudly displaying the symbol of the DAG, so if that bothers you good, if it doesn't good, I really don't give a fuck either way. What about good old straight pride???fuck gay pride.

At 5/16/03 02:36 AM, cannibal7878 wrote: You really make me laugh ninja...you think you know it all...typical for a female...but oh well, all is fair in love and war. I will continue to post where I want, when I want...proudly displaying the symbol of the DAG, so if that bothers you good, if it doesn't good, I really don't give a fuck either way. What about good old straight pride???fuck gay pride.

Ooooo. Getting a little defensive are we? Oh, and now you're suddenly going to leave me alone, huh? I take it I hit a few nails on the head then, which is more than you ever have since you've joined this forum. Heh heh. Come on, don't leave now. Give me what you got, big "23 year old man" (who "just happens" to act like a 15 year old boy). What happened to "striking fear into the hearts of mortals?" Come on, this is getting interesting. Don't run away now, wussy.

That sounds pretty ironic...and hypocritical. You can "have pride" and talk about whatever you want, but none of us (or gays) are aloud, huh? Awwww, I take it I hurt your big-boy feelings, huh? You have a pretty good sense of humor.

Typical for a female, huh? Heh heh heh, I can see why you can't get a date. You're probably just angry at gays cause they get more come-ons than you ever will, pussy.

Well, you go run along and have fun kid. Oh, I mean "big cool DAG boy."

Please. ^_________^

*Walks over to smoldering crater where DAG dignity once stood*

Damn.

*Whistles in disbelief, then roasts a marshmallow on smoldering debris*

Ninja....

Will you marry me?
Seriously. After that... I'm in love...

*swoons*

Those multiple topics you made really got to me. I hate that shit. Even though they were well thought out, I hate seeing 5 topics on one subject by one author. Since then you have consistently proven to be a role model poster.

Please consider joining the Politics Crew. You've seen us. You know who we are. There's no forced worship, and we actually frown upon having everyone within the group agree. It makes for boring conversation.

We're just the regulars.

Our motto: "Support good debate"
You might be asked to have a political quote in your sig, as well as the PC yin-yang, but that's about it as far as comitment. We have real lives, too. We just come here for the fun of discussing.. politics.

We just want more intelligent people like you...

(NGPC- A Commitment to excellence since 2003)

PS... You could do nothing else to anger the DAG more.

All right here's where it seems I need to defend the DAG without degenerating into flames.
Yes we're a bunch of goofs.
Yes we tend to gibber a lot.
Yes we have a bizarre psuedo-religious gimmick going

No Cannibal or FUNK don't speak for the DAG as group, no one does
No I can't vouch for all of us but I give my real age in the profile
No I don't hate gays, neither does GnarlyCar

Look we're just some guys who didn't feel like joining the PCs. We don't really hate them, we don't really want to see them broken up as a group. We clown on them because it's fun and you're the biggest group out there, making the PC the easiest target.
In summary calm down on the DAG you want to hit the individuals in it or good naturedly mock us that's one thing, just please don't knock the group as a whole for no reason. (Yeah, sometimes you got a reason, we can be a bunch of putzes I know.)

Yes, yes, we know all that.
And that's the reason some of us get annoyed occasionally, because you do such a good job of what you do.
But you or GnarlyCar don't hate gays, what about Cannibal?

At 5/16/03 07:15 AM, Ted_Easton wrote: Yes, yes, we know all that.
And that's the reason some of us get annoyed occasionally, because you do such a good job of what you do.
But you or GnarlyCar don't hate gays, what about Cannibal?

Yeah, cannibal hates gays. But hey, the DAG is all about having the right to your own opinion. I dont hate gays either. But if Cannibal wants to hate gays, I cant really stop him, can I? But considering the extremely Pro gay sentiments of GnarlyCar, the extremely Anti-Gay views of Cannibal, and my moderate gay views, I think weve covered all the stances you can take. Which is what we do, being the DAG. To silence one view..... that would make us PCs, now wouldnt it?

Oh please. Sell that shit to the tourists, man.

At 5/16/03 09:58 AM, TheShrike wrote: Oh please. Sell that shit to the tourists, man.

*pulls out a two wheel mall cart with colorful umbrella*

*puts out ad display*

"DAG. You tell it, we sell it."

The PC accepts people regardless of their views.

At 5/16/03 03:16 PM, Ted_Easton wrote: The PC accepts people regardless of their views.

Even neo Nazi satanist gang banging gay bashers like Cannibal (well maybe not gang banging, but I wouldnt be suprised)

Like I said, if there are a few members of DAG who are intelligent, then what I said need not apply to them.

My main issue was that a couple of times I countered a DAG member's argument, or something. Then that person tattled on me to other DAG members. One of them even asked for their DAG friends to go and "get me back." That made me angry. If someone has an issue with me personally, then that's fine. But when they try to sich the rest of their group on me like a pack of wolves, then that's insulting. If I had insulted the guy personally, like "you suck" or "you're an ass," then that's different. But all I did originally was just try to counter their arguments. A few of them got mad or something, and then tried to get the other group members to pile on me. I'll admit that only a few really came to their aid, but Cannibal just happened to be the worst. The other few who came to their group members' aid, just did so by trying to contradict my arguments (which I respect ^_^), but Cannibal came in and just started to insult me. That's why I dished him out there.

But once again, if there are a few members of DAG that don't try to "follow the rest of their group," or try to back other members up just because they are also a part of DAG, then I respect them.

Yes, the PC accepts people regardless of their views. If you can come up with a good argument on why neo-nazi-gay-bashing-etc is good, then welcome aboard.

like i said let them marry and all die of aids.

LOL...neo nazi? No, neo Satanist...demon possesed, gay hater...that is my opinion...am I wrong? Are you? Fuck it, if it feels good, do it...It feels good sticking the knife in...