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there is actually a video that shows a japanese sword slicing a bullet in two (the bullet was fired on the sword). it was a pistol btw, didnt say what calibre.


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I've been browsing about, and I think that it requires a reasonable degree of skill to use either weapon. Swords are somewhat difficult to wield, and not slice your own arm off, or do real damage, while guns, you have to deal with distance, whether or not he's taking cover, ammo, and recoil, all while they're shooting at you.

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At 1/31/06 10:18 PM, gotunks4 wrote:
Oh shut the fuck up you stupid cock munching woman. Only cause you saw some stupid cartoon with swords doesn't mean that swords are cool, fun, or "slice". Most swords were used for stabbing people back when they used swords because trying to slice a guy with metal armor isn't ver effective, also the only real way to ultimatly kill someone with is a sword is to slice their neck off, and you have to be a fucking body builder to slice through the bones and muscles of the neck. A gun is a real weapon, and no pussies don't use guns, people with brains do. Out of curiosity, have you shot a gun?

well , actually, any pussy can infact pull a trigger and hit some one. and dumbass, have you ever heard of a fucking katana? you use it to SLICE not stab. I myself acutally have been trained to use one. So quit you bitching, and to ultimantly kill someone, you could just slash off his fucking arm while he bleeds to death. And im not sure if you noticed, but not many people carry metal armor nowadays. If you see any, they probobably mentaly retarded/insane. and yes ive shot a gun a few times. And how the fuck do you "ultimately" kill some one? you either do, or you dont, now go bitch about your guns, and shoot your fucking throat so you wont whine about how guns are better than swords. sure a gun is more powerful, but it takes a true man to use a sword. tell me, why are you insulting someone for just saying that a sword is more ethnical? get a life, and "ultimately" quit bitching.


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At 2/1/06 12:27 AM, nidhoggspride wrote:
At 1/31/06 10:18 PM, gotunks4 wrote: im actually an anime nerd

actually(sry for double posting) im not sure if anyone noticed, but this hypocrit is infact an anime nerd! is name is gotunks for fucks sake!


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At 1/31/06 11:33 PM, _Fiend_ wrote:
The fact that you just said "a true warrior faces his enemy using face to face" just screams how your an anime nerd.

You can say whatever the hell you want. Engaging face to face is the only way to prove you have balls. Cowards hide behind guns at a distance.

Why does everyone forget that guns require setting up and being able to handle recoil.

Oh boy, recoil big frikin woop!
You need to be strong and well trained in all aspects of the body to handle a sword.

I can stab someone easier then i can shoot off a 44. magnum. Do you guys even realize the mechanisms of a gun?

Yes I do, guns do the work for you, lazy bastard.


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At 1/31/06 10:17 PM, Flash_Cat wrote: What about a gun that shoots SWORDS???

Or a sword that shoots guns??? Then what?

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Guns require more marksmanship but using a sword requires muscle mass, I think using a Knife will do just as well as a sword, it may have a shorter blade, but at least a knife is more modern and lighter. But Melee Weapons are only good for 2 things; Close Range combat when you are out of ammo or are caught without a firearm, or for assassinations I.E.: Stabbing someone in the back


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At 2/1/06 10:40 PM, Ryan914 wrote: Guns require more marksmanship but using a sword requires muscle mass.

Using a sword requires NO muscle mass, simply moderate strength and concentraition. I think the same can be said for a gun.

I think using a Knife will do just as well as a sword, it may have a shorter blade, but at least a knife is more modern and lighter.

Take it from somebody that has been trained to use both swords and knifes. A sword will ALMOST always win against a knife simply because of the overwhelming difference in reach. Well this assuming you know how to use a sword to its fullest potential anyways.

But Melee Weapons are only good for 2 things; Close Range combat when you are out of ammo or are caught without a firearm, or for assassinations I.E.: Stabbing someone in the back

Technically that was three things, but anyways. Melee weapons are multipurpose also. I gun is only good for killing things. A sword (for example) can be used to kill also, but it can also be used for more practicall things. Like after you kill an animal, you can use the sword to skin it. Then you can use it to skewer the animal and cook it over an open fire without having to worry about a stick of wood or something catching on fire. Of coarse, you would want to use something else to help grab it with because it would be extreemly hot after being hovered over a fire long enough for something to cook. In a sense a sword or blade in general is the ultimate survival tool.

I could go on for a long time with more examples as to why a sword is better than a gun from a practicall standpoint, but from a killing standpoint the gun is by far supperior.

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At 2/1/06 10:54 PM, -TheFaces wrote:
At 2/1/06 10:40 PM, Ryan914 wrote: Guns require more marksmanship but using a sword requires muscle mass.
Using a sword requires NO muscle mass, simply moderate strength and concentraition. I think the same can be said for a gun.

Well actually, believe it or not, a gun doesnt require stength.

I think using a Knife will do just as well as a sword, it may have a shorter blade, but at least a knife is more modern and lighter.

depends. a knife actually isnt more modern. they were invented somewhere in the B.C era.

Take it from somebody that has been trained to use both swords and knifes. A sword will ALMOST always win against a knife simply because of the overwhelming difference in reach. Well this assuming you know how to use a sword to its fullest potential anyways.

yeah, tats pretty much true.

But Melee Weapons are only good for 2 things; Close Range combat when you are out of ammo or are caught without a firearm, or for assassinations I.E.: Stabbing someone in the back

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m not sure stabbing someone in the back is best for assasination. a sniper is better and can be shot a long way away, and its much harder for forensics to find it cause some of your hair or skin cells ,
ect, can fall on the blade and transfered into the wound.

Technically that was three things, but anyways. Melee weapons are multipurpose also. I gun is only good for killing things. A sword (for example) can be used to kill also, but it can also be used for more practicall things. Like after you kill an animal, you can use the sword to skin it. Then you can use it to skewer the animal and cook it over an open fire without having to worry about a stick of wood or something catching on fire. Of coarse, you would want to use something else to help grab it with because it would be extreemly hot after being hovered over a fire long enough for something to cook. In a sense a sword or blade in general is the ultimate survival tool.

Im not quite sure if someone would skin an animal with a sword, but i guess you could get more meat because of less gunpowder in the meat.

I could go on for a long time with more examples as to why a sword is better than a gun from a practicall standpoint, but from a killing standpoint the gun is by far supperior.

Well, to cut a long story short, guns are superior at times, and a sword is superior at times. depending on the situation. Aparrently that anime nerd jackass gotunks or some shit like that is too stupid to know that. He also never heard of honor. One of those people who predtend to be an ass to people cause he thinks hes cool. honestly, what the fuck is wrong with canada? (read his pro.)


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At 2/2/06 12:17 AM, nidhoggspride wrote:
At 2/1/06 10:54 PM, -TheFaces wrote: Using a sword requires NO muscle mass, simply moderate strength and concentraition. I think the same can be said for a gun.
Well actually, believe it or not, a gun doesnt require stength.

Try holding a rifle in a shooting position for about ten minutes and then tell me that.

i'm not sure stabbing someone in the back is best for assasination. a sniper is better and can be shot a long way away, and its much harder for forensics to find it cause some of your hair or skin cells ,
ect, can fall on the blade and transfered into the wound.

Well, he just watches to much anime and play to many video games it would appear to know such things.

Im not quite sure if someone would skin an animal with a sword, but i guess you could get more meat because of less gunpowder in the meat.

It can be done, I am sure of this because I have done it. It would have deffinatlly been easier with a hunting knife or even a hatchet because a sword is very long and awkward compaired to such other weapons. But none the less, it can be done.

Well, to cut a long story short, guns are superior at times, and a sword is superior at times. depending on the situation. Aparrently that anime nerd jackass gotunks or some shit like that is too stupid to know that. He also never heard of honor. One of those people who predtend to be an ass to people cause he thinks hes cool. honestly, what the fuck is wrong with canada? (read his pro.)

Nothing is wrong with Canada. Canada is a great country, and I will probablly move there eventually.
Anyways, It is all a matter of standpoint. Like you said a gun is better at times, and a blade is better at times. It just depends on what you are doing is all.

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I'm just curious, why does it seem like everyone thinks that anyone who likes swords is a nerd? I doubt you'd be calling a samurai or crusader that, if they were still around... But seriously, I believe swords are better than guns for the fact that you need skill to take someone out with a sword. I mean any moron could pick up a gun and pull the trigger.

Also, I am not asian and i have plenty of friends so hahaha. Nerds and asians aren't the only ones who like swords.


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Just for the record.

Anyone can use a sword.

Anyone can use a gun.

Neither will be very effective without training.

The difference between stabbing someone and shooting someone is both petty and irrelevant. People who point out that difference without actually having done both (let alone either) are the same. Petty and irrelevant...obviously not knowing of what they speak.

Gun, sword....you still make the choice to take a life and live with that every day from there on out.

And for the record, in an equal situation, with two equal people, one with a sword and one with a gun.... The person with the gun would win at least 9 out of 10 times. That's why armies have guns instead of swords these days.

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At 2/2/06 12:40 AM, Janus wrote: Just for the record.

Anyone can use a sword.

Anyone can use a gun.

Neither will be very effective without training.

The difference between stabbing someone and shooting someone is both petty and irrelevant. People who point out that difference without actually having done both (let alone either) are the same. Petty and irrelevant...obviously not knowing of what they speak.

Gun, sword....you still make the choice to take a life and live with that every day from there on out.

And for the record, in an equal situation, with two equal people, one with a sword and one with a gun.... The person with the gun would win at least 9 out of 10 times. That's why armies have guns instead of swords these days.

Actually, it could be because more people die in wars with only melee meapons and bows. much more "compact" as a modern war is more spread out. Ever play call of duty?

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At 2/2/06 12:57 AM, nidhoggspride wrote: blah

You lost my attention when you compared real combat to a video game. Go away.

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At 2/2/06 12:59 AM, Janus wrote:
At 2/2/06 12:57 AM, nidhoggspride wrote: blah
You lost my attention when you compared real combat to a video game. Go away.

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Im not going to insult you, because i learned to keep my cool when someone points out an error or stupd comment. Yeah, im sorry about that. Havent really been in a gunfight before, as i hope you havent either.


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At 2/2/06 12:29 AM, MortalWound wrote: I'm just curious, why does it seem like everyone thinks that anyone who likes swords is a nerd? I doubt you'd be calling a samurai or crusader that, if they were still around...

Because they aren't around anymore, thats why there nerds. People are trying to recreate the past because they can't fit in todays world. I really don't care for guns or swords, but if a person was trying to fight a 50-cal mounted gun with a sword I don't think they would win.


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At 2/2/06 01:33 AM, Napalm4breakfast wrote:
At 2/2/06 12:29 AM, MortalWound wrote: I'm just curious, why does it seem like everyone thinks that anyone who likes swords is a nerd? I doubt you'd be calling a samurai or crusader that, if they were still around...
Because they aren't around anymore, thats why there nerds. People are trying to recreate the past because they can't fit in todays world. I really don't care for guns or swords, but if a person was trying to fight a 50-cal mounted gun with a sword I don't think they would win.

Yeah, actually , at least i think, in japan they use them, wel maybe. heh i personaly would love to see a guy try to somehow attack a 50 cal mounted gun. I hit someone in the knee cap with a wooden sword one time. he threated to beat me up, ironically. Which the little bitch most likely couldnt do.


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Guns are better and easier to fight with, but I think swords are hella more fun!

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At 1/31/06 10:07 PM, gotunks4 wrote: Only stupid internet faggots think swords are better then guns. I swear to god, anyone says ptherwise is either: a stupid fucking asian douche or a stupid fucking nerd douche with no life/friends.

Thank you, token redneck poster.

Fuck guns. Any pussy can shoot a gun.

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using a gun is still using a weapon which is cowardly.

it takes a REAL real man to kill with is bare hands. win.


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At 2/2/06 02:13 AM, Wtfpwn wrote: using a gun is still using a weapon which is cowardly.

it takes a REAL real man to kill with is bare hands. win.

Well , theres a difference between being a coward, and being smart.


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you don't have to reload swords.


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At 1/31/06 10:14 PM, capn_g wrote: As weapons, guns are superior to swords, obviously or we would still be using them in combat. Ethically however swords are better than guns. Any pussy can hide half a block away and take a shot at someone, it takes balls (not to mention a decent amout of training) to slice someone up close and personal.

Very true, anyone can wait behind a door and shoot someone but it takes balls to go up to someone and challenge them to a sword fight.

In fact, i have this reeeaaallly nice sword right here=) but I like guns too

Guns&gt;&gt;&gt; Swords.


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Dont u guys remember
Indiana Jones and that crazy arab
The Arab was swinging his sword like a pro
and Jones just shot him instantly

but i like swords more than guns
guns are still cool
but swords is what i like


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guns can kill a swordsmen......but swords are just so cool.......especially katanas cuz they are all light and stuff........and you swing them around and HEADSLICE!!!!.........bloodiness..........
.not getting sniped and dieing a non-painful death from 1000 meters away......

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At 1/31/06 10:07 PM, gotunks4 wrote: Only stupid internet faggots think swords are better then guns. I swear to god, anyone says ptherwise is either: a stupid fucking asian douche or a stupid fucking nerd douche with no life/friends.

Wah wah wah.

Guns are indeed the best weapons available today, but swordplay is usually a much more personal and honorable form of fighting. There's also more artistry in the creation and use of a blade. Although the way the cowboys of the old west fought, it's fairly similar.

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At 2/2/06 08:27 PM, sotar wrote: Dont u guys remember
Indiana Jones and that crazy arab
The Arab was swinging his sword like a pro
and Jones just shot him instantly

but i like swords more than guns
guns are still cool
but swords is what i like

That might be because the Arab was a goddamn moron who hasn't heard of the element of suprise. It was pretty funny though.

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At 1/31/06 10:58 PM, Masterful-Swordplay wrote:
At 1/31/06 10:57 PM, calgore14 wrote:
At 1/31/06 10:54 PM, Masterful-Swordplay wrote: You have to admit, swords do require more talent, gunplay requires expeirience more. Fact.
Swordfights only work in the movies. In real life they last about 20 seconds tops. Just swing at the dood, if he parries, he swings back and you dead.
And you've seen a real sword-fight...?

Really, most real swordfights only lasted for like a few seconds. The huge epic swordfights they have in movies are cool too watch, but it very rarely happened.

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any retard that has never fired a single gun in thier life cant say a single thing about how "recoil is the most uninportant thing 'bout firing guns and how pussy guns are" as many anime addicted nerds are saying!

firstly shooting a gun needs skill, if you dont hold it right, you cant shoot right, if you dont shoot right, you will probably hurt yourself which you probably wont like

secondly swords may be really cool and all (which i do think that) you need about three quarters of the skill involved in using swords than to fire guns! WHICH IS GOOD

so there! thats what i think

oh and by the way, if you want to know what guns i've fired, i have fired a winchester .22, a spaz 12 shotgun, a m16 ( single shot only), and remington .22 with scope! SO THERE


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Lol, anything that was invented 1000 years laters than something else has to be better.


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