Islam sucks

[boomheadshot1]

Yep, that got your attention.

1. In the Koran, it says to "attack the non-believers"
2. There are NO protests (crowd-wise or just on the street and says "Osama Bin Laden is an asshole/sucks) made by muslims against terrorism/terrorists/assholes
3. You talk about how Christians run through villages, burning, plundering, and forcing conversion, but you never hear about MUSLIMS RUNNING THROUGH VILLAGES, BURNING, PLUNDERING, AND FORCING CONVERSION!!!!!!! Both sides partook in that pasttime that, thankfully, doesnt happen anymore. Or at least the christians broke that habit.
4. If American culture is so corrupting, why dont they:
A. tune it out of their personal lives
B. Also protest European culture, which is equally corrupting
C. Not sink to "our level" by not suicide bombing everything
D. Realize that refusing to give other people their religious freedom is wrong???

I even heard that, if all of the middle east was liberated, at least 60% of the total population would convert!!!! Whether this is true or not is up for debate.

Please dont call me intolerant, because to call ME intolerant would be intolerant of my views. It's a matter of perspective. Oh, and a poll for all you out there:

How many threads that are supposedly "Anti-Christian" do you see compared to threads that supposedly "Anti-WHAT HAVE YOU"???

seems a bit biased and hypocritical to overlook the evils of one religion and not see the evils of others. Or did the left-wing media tell you what to say??? Please dont call me an Atheist, because im not.

[m0u5y]

what is with this wave of "i have nothing else to do but post a hate topic" threads?

i thought they were suppose to be cleaning this up.
unless you can manage to make your point without using excessive caps and hatful language I believe there is no point in posting here.

but that's just my... well many people's well founded opinion.

[boomheadshot1]

At 1/8/06 06:56 AM, m0u5y wrote: what is with this wave of "i have nothing else to do but post a hate topic" threads?

i thought they were suppose to be cleaning this up.
unless you can manage to make your point without using excessive caps and hatful language I believe there is no point in posting here.

but that's just my... well many people's well founded opinion.

This isnt a hate thread. I present the facts I have heard from credible sources. I even took a look in the Koran and i found a sentence that said "Kill the non-believers." Once again, we have someone who posts before thinking or researching.

There is no hateful language in this thread. You must be a "Tolerate everything except what we tell you not to" person.

A well founded opinion is what you have failed to even hint at, so you=FAIL.

[m0u5y]

oh damn, im so sad. some guy on the internet failed me.
boo hoo, same grade system used for bush i might add.

ok, well do something about it then. if it sucks so much go out there and get arrested for it like a good activist.

[boomheadshot1]

At 1/8/06 07:19 AM, m0u5y wrote: oh damn, im so sad. some guy on the internet failed me.
boo hoo, same grade system used for bush i might add.

ok, well do something about it then. if it sucks so much go out there and get arrested for it like a good activist.

I wont get arrested, ILL GET KILLED. Thats how they roll. Mostly.

And you dont have to get arrested to be a "good activist".

Keep all Bush-related comments in the "OFFICIAL BUSH THREAD".

[RUFUSthePENUS]

At 1/8/06 06:50 AM, boomheadshot1 wrote: Yep, that got your attention.

1. In the Koran, it says to "attack the non-believers"

Since this apparently isa christianity vs islam thread i would like to point out that christians also have a history of attacking nonbelievers

2. There are NO protests (crowd-wise or just on the street and says "Osama Bin Laden is an asshole/sucks) made by muslims against terrorism/terrorists/assholes

Of course there is. But the media dosen't consider it to be "hot". Try watching something other than fox please.

3. You talk about how Christians run through villages, burning, plundering, and forcing conversion, but you never hear about MUSLIMS RUNNING THROUGH VILLAGES, BURNING, PLUNDERING, AND FORCING CONVERSION!!!!!!! Both sides partook in that pasttime that, thankfully, doesnt happen anymore. Or at least the christians broke that habit.

Who talks about that?

4. If American culture is so corrupting, why dont they:
A. tune it out of their personal lives

Either because they are asshats that likes to complain OR because USA is the most influencial power in the world and it is impossible to take a walk without seeing a coca cola.

B. Also protest European culture, which is equally corrupting

Because USA is seen ( rightfully) as the arch fiend.

C. Not sink to "our level" by not suicide bombing everything

"our level"?

D. Realize that refusing to give other people their religious freedom is wrong???

THat is wrong but do you think that it is seen as ok if a texan converts to islam?

I even heard that, if all of the middle east was liberated, at least 60% of the total population would convert!!!! Whether this is true or not is up for debate.

Not true. again, stop watching fox.

Please dont call me intolerant, because to call ME intolerant would be intolerant of my views. It's a matter of perspective. Oh, and a poll for all you out there:

I don't think you are intolerant, just uninformed and stupid.

How many threads that are supposedly "Anti-Christian" do you see compared to threads that supposedly "Anti-WHAT HAVE YOU"???

True. All the little rebel on NG would like nothing more than to bash their parents religion.

seems a bit biased and hypocritical to overlook the evils of one religion and not see the evils of others. Or did the left-wing media tell you what to say??? Please dont call me an Atheist, because im not.

I am.

[m0u5y]

final note. need to tie up one last knot.

a mention of bush doesnt qualify for an entire post to be placed in the bush dept. unless of course you will be cordial enough to go read it, in fact, here i will come back and post a link of a post i will make about bush related to this...
but then again why bother
it was just a gag.
gags dont need any special attention.

[m0u5y]

pps

btw, sucks is certainly a word that connotates an emotion.. that of hate or dislike.

[Jesse-Ray]

At 1/8/06 06:50 AM, boomheadshot1 wrote: 1. In the Koran, it says to "attack the non-believers"

This sounds somewhat out of context, give us the paragraph that this is in, I wanna read it.

[lapis]

At 1/8/06 06:50 AM, boomheadshot1 wrote: 1. In the Koran, it says to "attack the non-believers"

From the Sura:

[2:62] Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the Christians, and the converts; anyone who (1) believes in GOD, and (2) believes in the Last Day, and (3) leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense from their Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.

[2:190] You may fight in the cause of GOD against those who attack you, but do not aggress. GOD does not love the aggressors.

I even heard that, if all of the middle east was liberated, at least 60% of the total population would convert!!!!

To what? Christianity? Taoism? Scientology?

[RUFUSthePENUS]

At 1/8/06 07:43 AM, lapis wrote:

At 1/8/06 06:50 AM, boomheadshot1 wrote:

I even heard that, if all of the middle east was liberated, at least 60% of the total population would convert!!!!

To what? Christianity? Taoism? Scientology?

Wicca...

[lapis]

At 1/8/06 07:52 AM, Guiding_Light wrote: Wicca...

Gardnerian Wicca or Solitary Wicca?

[Jinzoa]

why do we go on about the christian religions?.....simple because it happened in our countries, islam did not happen hear it was christianity that affected us. Without what they did you would not be here today.

[Konic-the-hedgehog]

boomheadshot1 this so old and Ive seen so much so I can't stand anti-islam threds. On the note of what sucks u should know I hate Zionism and Evangelcals. But I don't
rant about it man and all! Maybe I should! But I should start my own thread for that!

By the way I am a christian to man and I dont hate islam

[TheBlueBullet]

At 1/8/06 06:50 AM, boomheadshot1 wrote:
How many threads that are supposedly "Anti-Christian" do you see compared to threads that supposedly "Anti-WHAT HAVE YOU"???

Theres alot. Because the Christian view is primarily against the Liberal views such as abortion, gay marriage, man boy love, ...ect... People try to tear down that religion so that they won't have to deal with the views later on in the long run. I bet if Christianity was ok with the Liberal views, they would be more loved in this forum.

[abluepillorafreemind]

At 1/8/06 07:06 AM, boomheadshot1 wrote:

At 1/8/06 06:56 AM, m0u5y wrote: what is with this wave of "i have nothing else to do but post a hate topic" threads?

i thought they were suppose to be cleaning this up.
unless you can manage to make your point without using excessive caps and hatful language I believe there is no point in posting here.

but that's just my... well many people's well founded opinion.

This isnt a hate thread. I present the facts I have heard from credible sources. I even took a look in the Koran and i found a sentence that said "Kill the non-believers." Once again, we have someone who posts before thinking or researching.

There is no hateful language in this thread. You must be a "Tolerate everything except what we tell you not to" person.

A well founded opinion is what you have failed to even hint at, so you=FAIL.

Credible Sources you say? Lets see them? Yes the Koran does say to destroy non believers. but i am sure somewhere if you cjecked you would also find that it say something along the lines of "harm not those godfearing christians and jews for they do no wrong" it has something ot do with t he fact many jewish and chrtistian profits and beliefs also have a part in islam.

[Lidov]

At 1/8/06 07:43 AM, lapis wrote: From the Sura:

[2:62] Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the Christians, and the converts; anyone who (1) believes in GOD, and (2) believes in the Last Day, and (3) leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense from their Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.

I see your point, but it has nothing to do with what you just wrote. the Muslims do not see Jews and Christians as none-believers, that is because they believe in god. However, the Koran specifically says to kill the none-believers, the poele who don't believe in god, those who believe in many gods and such. It is a fact that they killed them or converted them.

[2:190] You may fight in the cause of GOD against those who attack you, but do not aggress. GOD does not love the aggressors.

You know how it is, there are always a lot of verses whcih conflict with each other. Besides, the Muslims chose, probably, to ignore this verse, because, as I said bfore, they killed a lot of people who wouldn't convert.

[MoralLibertarian]

At 1/8/06 06:50 AM, boomheadshot1 wrote: 1. In the Koran, it says to "attack the non-believers"

Don't make me whip my translation of the Qur'an out, which basically says that righteous Christians, Sabians, Jews, and Muslims are all pretty much on the same salvation boat. And God forgives warfare but does not forgive agression.

2. There are NO protests (crowd-wise or just on the street and says "Osama Bin Laden is an asshole/sucks) made by muslims against terrorism/terrorists/assholes

Wrong. After the bombings in Jordan, they protested Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, but then again, most arab countries don't enjoy the right to free assembly like we do.

3. You talk about how Christians run through villages, burning, plundering, and forcing conversion, but you never hear about MUSLIMS RUNNING THROUGH VILLAGES, BURNING, PLUNDERING, AND FORCING CONVERSION!!!!!!! Both sides partook in that pasttime that, thankfully, doesnt happen anymore. Or at least the christians broke that habit.

What does that have to do with Islam? There has always been quite the distance between religion and its practice.

4. If American culture is so corrupting, why dont they:
A. tune it out of their personal lives

I'm sure they walk around thinking about America all day.

B. Also protest European culture, which is equally corrupting

They don't protest Western culture, they just view us as a bunch of sinners, which is true. But they don't like Europe anymore than they like America. Well, maybe a little more, but that's because we support Israel.

C. Not sink to "our level" by not suicide bombing everything

Baseless.

D. Realize that refusing to give other people their religious freedom is wrong???

You're speaking about Arab culture, not the religion of Islam. I don't know why they think that, why don't we invade all of their countries and make them into Western style democracies?

I even heard that, if all of the middle east was liberated, at least 60% of the total population would convert!!!! Whether this is true or not is up for debate.

I heard that everytime you masturbate to orgyporn, a house burns down in the slums of New York.

Please dont call me intolerant, because to call ME intolerant would be intolerant of my views. It's a matter of perspective. Oh, and a poll for all you out there:

You're just ignorant is all.

How many threads that are supposedly "Anti-Christian" do you see compared to threads that supposedly "Anti-WHAT HAVE YOU"???

A lot, but they are no more right than this is.

[MoralLibertarian]

At 1/8/06 11:03 AM, Lidov wrote:

At 1/8/06 07:43 AM, lapis wrote: From the Sura:

[2:62] Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the Christians, and the converts; anyone who (1) believes in GOD, and (2) believes in the Last Day, and (3) leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense from their Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.

I see your point, but it has nothing to do with what you just wrote. the Muslims do not see Jews and Christians as none-believers, that is because they believe in god. However, the Koran specifically says to kill the none-believers, the poele who don't believe in god, those who believe in many gods and such. It is a fact that they killed them or converted them.

So did Christians when they conquered North/Central/South American Indians, and it also came from the scripture. Why do you act like Christian/Jewish scripture is devoid of such commands from God? Maybe it's true, too. Maybe we should kill unbelievers. Then again, I'm still not sure the Qur'an has "kill all the unbelievers" in it.

[2:190] You may fight in the cause of GOD against those who attack you, but do not aggress. GOD does not love the aggressors.

You know how it is, there are always a lot of verses whcih conflict with each other. Besides, the Muslims chose, probably, to ignore this verse, because, as I said bfore, they killed a lot of people who wouldn't convert.

Please find me the verse in the Qur'an that says to kill all unbelievers without being attacked first. I haven't read the whole book yet, I'll admit.

[Montgomery-Scott]

At 1/8/06 06:50 AM, boomheadshot1 wrote: Yep, that got your attention.

1. In the Koran, it says to "attack the non-believers"

no it doesn't. The idea of jihad, or holy war, is a metaphor. The holy 'war' is meant to be a war within yourself against the evil within you, not an exeternal war against non-believers. Unike in Christainity.

2. There are NO protests (crowd-wise or just on the street and says "Osama Bin Laden is an asshole/sucks) made by muslims against terrorism/terrorists/assholes

Yes there are. are you an idiot or something? Do you live in a cave with no TV? Have you not seen the enormous student protests in Syria, and Iran denounching radical Islam? Not saying that the radical theocrats will take the hint and stop being assholes, but there is sentiment.

3. You talk about how Christians run through villages, burning, plundering, and forcing conversion, but you never hear about MUSLIMS RUNNING THROUGH VILLAGES, BURNING, PLUNDERING, AND FORCING CONVERSION!!!!!!! Both sides partook in that pasttime that, thankfully, doesnt happen anymore. Or at least the christians broke that habit.

For every villaige burned, plundered, etc. by muslims in the dark ages, there were at least 10 burned and plundered by christains. Christains during the dark ages loved nothing more than to go to spain or palestine and kill them some darkies. Muslims however, had a large empire, stretching over a majority of the middle east as well as northern africa and spain. This empire was extremely advanced, having running water, sewage, advanced medicine and astronomy, as well as improving on mathematics pioneered by egyptians and lost by the romans, such as trigonometry. It was also extrodinarily tolerant, allowing christains and jews to live in harmony with muslims. All this while christains were living in huts with their animals pooping in the corner and praying and doing pegan rituals to get better when the fell ill.

4. If American culture is so corrupting, why dont they:
A. tune it out of their personal lives

They try. American products don't do well among the radical islamic segment of the middle east.

B. Also protest European culture, which is equally corrupting

They do! Have you read any of the articles about the fucking riots in france?! Those were all by disgruntled muslims and north africans, who were protesting how european culture was discriminatory towards them.

C. Not sink to "our level" by not suicide bombing everything

When they have no other means to fight us, that is their only option. not condoning it, but it is understandable.

D. Realize that refusing to give other people their religious freedom is wrong???

Why don't we realize that too, and ceace diplomatic relations with Saudi

I even heard that, if all of the middle east was liberated, at least 60% of the total population would convert!!!! Whether this is true or not is up for debate.

Did you pull that out of your ass or something? THat is the most horribly wrong stat i have ever seen.

Please dont call me intolerant, because to call ME intolerant would be intolerant of my views. It's a matter of perspective. Oh, and a poll for all you out there:

How many threads that are supposedly "Anti-Christian" do you see compared to threads that supposedly "Anti-WHAT HAVE YOU"???

I don't need to tolerat your intolerance. and yes, you are an intolerant bigot, so shut up.

seems a bit biased and hypocritical to overlook the evils of one religion and not see the evils of others. Or did the left-wing media tell you what to say??? Please dont call me an Atheist, because im not.

You aren't an atheist, thats right. You are a hard line christain nut who thinks we should burn all the muslim cities and convert them to christainity. You make all the other followers of Christ look bad. You are to western civilization what Osama Bin Laden is to the middle east. now shut the hell up.

[MindControlFun]

At 1/8/06 06:50 AM, boomheadshot1 wrote: Yep, that got your attention.

1. In the Koran, it says to "attack the non-believers"
2. There are NO protests (crowd-wise or just on the street and says "Osama Bin Laden is an asshole/sucks) made by muslims against terrorism/terrorists/assholes
3. You talk about how Christians run through villages, burning, plundering, and forcing conversion, but you never hear about MUSLIMS RUNNING THROUGH VILLAGES, BURNING, PLUNDERING, AND FORCING CONVERSION!!!!!!! Both sides partook in that pasttime that, thankfully, doesnt happen anymore. Or at least the christians broke that habit.

You are completely ignorant. Learn up on the subject before you post. The Koran does not tell people to attack non-believers, that is a common misquote that is used for propaganda. True Islam (not extremism) is probably far better a religion than your savior shit. And Muslims don't have lagrge protests because they are terrified (terrorists do that) of the terrorists because they "dont wanna get blown the fuck up"

Lurk around on the BBS a bit more before you start posting this shit.

[Lidov]

At 1/8/06 07:43 AM, lapis wrote: [2:190] You may fight in the cause of GOD against those who attack you, but do not aggress. GOD does not love the aggressors.

Just wanted to state the next statement in the Qoran.

[2:191] And kill them wherever you come upon them, and expel them from where they expelled you, for turmoil is more grievous than killing; but do not fight them by the Sacred Mosque until they fight you there; and if they fight you, kill them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

So it is not so unaggressively, doesn't it?

[seventy-one]

At 1/8/06 06:50 AM, boomheadshot1 wrote: Yep, that got your attention.

1. In the Koran, it says to "attack the non-believers"

If you are attacked by them. I defy you to provide a Qur'anic quote supporting an attack for no reason.

2. There are NO protests (crowd-wise or just on the street and says "Osama Bin Laden is an asshole/sucks) made by muslims against terrorism/terrorists/assholes

There was some in DC, but if you want written protests:
http://www.religious..nce.org/islfatwa.htm

http://www.cair-net...age=notislampetition

http://www.cair-net...age=notislampetition

3. You talk about how Christians run through villages, burning, plundering, and forcing conversion, but you never hear about MUSLIMS RUNNING THROUGH VILLAGES, BURNING, PLUNDERING, AND FORCING CONVERSION!!!!!!! Both sides partook in that pasttime that, thankfully, doesnt happen anymore. Or at least the christians broke that habit.

The prophet Muhammed (pbuh) set down rules of war, not to burn crops or houses, not to attack women and children, and once you have made them stop attacking you the war is over.

4. If American culture is so corrupting, why dont they:
A. tune it out of their personal lives
B. Also protest European culture, which is equally corrupting
C. Not sink to "our level" by not suicide bombing everything
D. Realize that refusing to give other people their religious freedom is wrong???

You're just talking about arabic culture not Islamic culture, you know there are a lot of muslims in the western world.

I even heard that, if all of the middle east was liberated, at least 60% of the total population would convert!!!! Whether this is true or not is up for debate.

I highly dowbt that.

Please dont call me intolerant, because to call ME intolerant would be intolerant of my views. It's a matter of perspective. Oh, and a poll for all you out there:

Yeah I'd be intolerant of your views, but your intolerence is based on ignorance not facts.

How many threads that are supposedly "Anti-Christian" do you see compared to threads that supposedly "Anti-WHAT HAVE YOU"???

A lot.

seems a bit biased and hypocritical to overlook the evils of one religion and not see the evils of others. Or did the left-wing media tell you what to say??? Please dont call me an Atheist, because im not.

You should spend more time here. Scientology was here awhile ago, lots of others.

[seventy-one]

At 1/8/06 01:53 PM, Lidov wrote:

At 1/8/06 07:43 AM, lapis wrote: [2:190] You may fight in the cause of GOD against those who attack you, but do not aggress. GOD does not love the aggressors.

Just wanted to state the next statement in the Qoran.

[2:191] And kill them wherever you come upon them, and expel them from where they expelled you, for turmoil is more grievous than killing; but do not fight them by the Sacred Mosque until they fight you there; and if they fight you, kill them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

So it is not so unaggressively, doesn't it?

Hudeybayai, sixth year of the Hijra, the Meccan pagans forced the musilms out of their homes, persecuted them and did not allow them for pilgramage, during a time of truce. The muslims tryed to avoid bloodshed until the last second, but it just got way too far. Hence that passage is a rallying cry.

Let me recite the next passage::
[2:192] But if they cease hostility, the Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

[lapis]

At 1/8/06 12:34 PM, Quanze13 wrote:

B. Also protest European culture, which is equally corrupting

They do! Have you read any of the articles about the fucking riots in france?! Those were all by disgruntled muslims and north africans, who were protesting how european culture was discriminatory towards them.

Emm, no these riots were not religion-based, but rather based on ethnicity and economic situation. The majority of the rioters was Muslim, but that's simply because the French slums are mostly inhabited by North-Africans. Other black non-Muslim immigrant youths also partook in the riots.
A large portion of the rioters did feel discriminated against, but not as Muslims by Christians, but as Africans/Berbers by Caucasians. They felt like their positions in the job and housing markets were weak solely due to their descendance and that's why they started a riot, not because they felt like their religious rights were being encroached.

I'm not exactly sure how Muslims feel about Europe, but we're not that active in the Middle East and we condemn Israel whenever they cross the line so we don't draw that much negative attention. The only European nations on al-Qaeda's blacklist are the ones who still have soldiers in Iraq (Italy, UK, etc). A lot of European nations have large Muslim minorities living in their cities, and France in particular has good relations with the Muslim world. Even the Hamas protested when the French journalists Christian Chesnot and Georges Malbrunot got kidnapped in Iraq.

Bin Laden also offered Europe a truce, although this was obviously rejected. They may find both our cultures despicable but the anti-American hostility is mostly the result of your foreign policies in the past and in the present.

At 1/8/06 01:53 PM, Lidov wrote: So it is not so unaggressively, doesn't it?

Yes, it is unaggressive because you're only allowed to use violence when attacked. Aggressive means eager to start conflict, and only when you're attacked does the Qur'an not restrain any violence against pagans and idol worshippers. "You're allowed to kill unbelievers when attacked" is pretty different from "attack the non-believers".

[ReiperX]

Someone who does no research themself and only what they "hear" yeah.

At 1/8/06 06:50 AM, boomheadshot1 wrote: Yep, that got your attention.

1. In the Koran, it says to "attack the non-believers"

I've seen where it says to kill them, to crucify them. And then if you actually read the other passages around it so that you are not taking it out of context, it is talking about the invading idolworshippers. I can very easily do the same with the Bible take things out of context. Its what most extremists do KKK included, who concider themselves Christian as well and use the Bible to help with their views.

2. There are NO protests (crowd-wise or just on the street and says "Osama Bin Laden is an asshole/sucks) made by muslims against terrorism/terrorists/assholes

I work with a lot of Muslims, all of them that I've talked to think Bin Laden is an asshole and had no right to do what he did. They also view him no more Islamic than most Christians view the KKK Christian.

3. You talk about how Christians run through villages, burning, plundering, and forcing conversion, but you never hear about MUSLIMS RUNNING THROUGH VILLAGES, BURNING, PLUNDERING, AND FORCING CONVERSION!!!!!!! Both sides partook in that pasttime that, thankfully, doesnt happen anymore. Or at least the christians broke that habit.

And non of the major religions of the world take up this practice as a whole. Arguably the Jewish have in Israel but that was more military than religious.

4. If American culture is so corrupting, why dont they:
A. tune it out of their personal lives
B. Also protest European culture, which is equally corrupting
C. Not sink to "our level" by not suicide bombing everything
D. Realize that refusing to give other people their religious freedom is wrong???

They do, see you are just looking at the extremists that have done to the Korn what many people do to the Bible. Bend the words to say what they want them to say.

I even heard that, if all of the middle east was liberated, at least 60% of the total population would convert!!!! Whether this is true or not is up for debate.

I heard if you bend over grab your ankles and shake your ass in a counterclockwise circle of 3 hours the Flying Monkeys of Apocolypse will fly right out of it, but thats up for debate.

Please dont call me intolerant, because to call ME intolerant would be intolerant of my views. It's a matter of perspective. Oh, and a poll for all you out there:

You do realize that argument doesn't really apply right? You are intolerant and in my eyes a biggot, but I'm not going to go around trying to prove that or make others believev it, well, because you do a great job of doing it yourself.

How many threads that are supposedly "Anti-Christian" do you see compared to threads that supposedly "Anti-WHAT HAVE YOU"???

And what happens to most of the Anti-Christian threads? They don't last neither will this one. Main reason is the posters of the anti threads are very often ill informed. Like you.

seems a bit biased and hypocritical to overlook the evils of one religion and not see the evils of others. Or did the left-wing media tell you what to say??? Please dont call me an Atheist, because im not.

Why would I call you Athiest? I've never denied wrong doing by any group, there isn't an innocent reigion out there, closest to it would probally be Buddhism <sp>. We hae the 700 Club to tell us the evils of Islam, even though Pat Roberston is possibly even more misguided than you are my friend.

[102387412]

You think Islam is bad, try reading the Talmund (Jewish book). It makes Mein Kampf look like the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

[Montgomery-Scott]

At 1/8/06 04:42 PM, Mighty_Genghis wrote: You think Islam is bad, try reading the Talmund (Jewish book). It makes Mein Kampf look like the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

have you ever read the Talmud, you Nazi schmuck? I'm fucking jewish and you should shut the fuck up since you have no fucking idea what you are talking about.

[punisher19848]

You are absolutely right boomheadshot1, Islam does suck. That said, all religions suck! I don't care what name they brandish or what doctrine they preach, they all seek to gain as many followers as possible to serve the heads of the religion in question.

It's all a big scam!

[102387412]

From the Talmud:

Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.

Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.

Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."

Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b).

Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."

Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.

Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.

Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.

Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave.

Gittin 57b. (Claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar.)

Gittin 58a. (Claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans.)

Some Teachings of the Jewish Talmud:

The Jews refer to the remainder of Earth's inhabitants, the non-Jewish peoples, as "Gentiles", "Goyim". Let's see what the Jewish Talmud teaches the Jews concerning the non-Jewish majority, i.e. those who are not part of Jahve's "Chosen People":

Some Teachings of the Jewish Talmud

· "The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts." Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b

· "The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honor the dog more than the non-Jew." Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30.

· "Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therefore he will be served by animals in human form". Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855

· "A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal". Coschen hamischpat 405.

· "The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs". Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b.

· "Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human". Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b.

· "If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog". Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b.

· "If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell the Jew: "God will replace 'your loss', just as if one of his oxen or asses had died". Jore dea 377, 1.

· "Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between animals". Talmud Sanhedrin 74b.

· "It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile". Sepher ikkarim III c 25.

· "It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah". Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5.

· "A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands". Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b.

· "Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God". Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772.

(Work collected by Rabbi Ted Feldman)