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Posted at: 1/4/06 07:17 PM

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At 1/4/06 07:03 PM, Shao_Khan wrote:

Not that you're a clock and can talk for the CC, but...

If you are talking about posting on Newgrounds then you don't know anything about the clock crew. They don't post on NGBBS because it sucks and it's a haven for idiocy.

I'm not talking about the BBS. I'm talking about the Portal. I've seen possibly a dozen Portal entries from clocks in the past two years.

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Posted at: 1/4/06 07:19 PM

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Umm.. Why did you join Newgrounds then if you hate the creator of it?

teh creator is tom nots wade

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Posted at: 1/4/06 07:21 PM

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At 1/4/06 12:01 PM, TheFlashCat wrote: Agreed.

seconded...wait!

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Posted at: 1/4/06 07:25 PM

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Although it is not likely that Mr. Wade Fulp will even notice my comment, I guess I'll put in my 2 cents.

First off, since when is it a crime to vote and review the way you want personally? Mr. Wade Fulp, you are not me, nor have you ever at any time been me. You do not know how I think, how I feel, or what I like. So don't tell me how I should or should not think, feel, and/or like. Contrary to popular belief, not all clocks or locks are 13 year olds, in fact, many locks and clocks such as myself are over 18, I myself being one of the oldest at 21 years old. We are not as ignorant as some would like to believe.

Sure I've voted 5 and reviewed 10 on movies or votes 0 and 0, but these were movies that I either, personally enjoyed or strongly disliked. I have always been a softy and I feel for up and coming artists so I am always lenient. But when I dislike something, I am strictly opposed and let it be known. So what if they may be a friend, a good fiend supports their buddy in their time of need and support them as he or she make his or her own way through life. In addition, I am left to also say, so what if they are made by fellow Locks or Clocks, I like what I like, just like any other person. We all have a variety of interests, that is what makes life interesting. As they say, "Variety is the spice of life", but when you try stamping out that "Variety" you loose that spice and you loose the flavor that was best to begin with.

I have been a habitual visitor of this site since 2001. (wow, 5 years sure does go by fast) I've bought stickers in the past even. I've seen this site go through highs and lows and even a couple of changes in layout on the site. However now, I am more and more uneasy towards this site. Most of the time, I end up placing my art elsewhere because of the lack of respect towards the author and the lack of knowledge of the product.

quote from Mr. Wade Fulp
If these groups were ethical they wouldn't even vote on or review entries submitted by members of their groups.

Asfor this quote, I wish to ask one question. What about fanboys/girls that vote 5/10 on their favorite authors? What do you intend to do about this? Are you going to start setting it up where a member is unable to vote/review as they wish because they may have a certain author in their favorites? I can easily think of examples from other artists such as Illwillpress and Legendary Frog in which they told all the forum members on their site and even posted on their front page to go vote 5 on their movie. (I've seen this with my own eyes so I know this to be true.) Until this issue is addressed you have little or no right to complain about possible abuses within the CC/LL/GG/ or SS.

Also, have you ever thought that some of us have no interest in getting an award. I for one simply think of any award I may win as just good luck as I don't really care about awards. I've never been a person that cared highly about always being #1 or what-not, I make flash because I enjoy making them, not because I want an award. It is just something to do to kill the time and if people like it or if by some spark of luck I win some award, then it is all for the better.

If you want my opinion, I say the simpliest thing to do would be totake away the ability to review from any member on the site that has not got a flash submission on the site. Only those who actually have made flash have a right in my opinion to judge another author's work. Non-flash-creating members would still be able to vote as they please and this would leave reveiews to those who actually have knowledge of the time and effort it takes to make a flash animation.

But hey, with the tragedy in West Virgina in the news and bad stuff happening worldwide, but here we are, arguing about some rule that Mr. Wade Fulp wants enacted because flash that he doesn't like happened to get awards. I'll give him credit that he is like any other person, he has likes and dislikes. According to his actions in the past year, I would say it is dislikes for the CC/LL/SS/GG etc. The site should be about creative freedom, not about putting out cookie cutter flashes that are all in the manner in which he wants. Each member should be valued for their visit. Each member that contributes to the site via flash should be valued even more. There are a very small minority of members that can actually make good fbf, and even fewer that can tween.

In short, you should rethink this idea and stop trying to make decisions for people. If you are going to do this, at least have the courtesy to take away the voting system and review system because not everyone shares the same taste as you. Remember as I said earlier, Variety is the spice of life, so go ahead and try to take in the different flavors because a single person is not likely to get a taste of them all and the more spices (variety) on Newgrounds, the better the food (portal and the site in general) will be.

Hopefully cooler heads will prevail and my calm and well thought out response is worth your time to give a calm and well thought out response to Mr. Fulp.

Thanks for your time.
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Posted at: 1/4/06 07:26 PM

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freakin thank you wade. i'm sick of all these SS submissions with a score of 2.3 but with a review average of 9.7

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Posted at: 1/4/06 07:29 PM

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I thought you guys cleared this up already. :*(

Portal Abuse. :(

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I have an opinion. I MUST TYPE SAID OPINION IN CAPITALS SO THAT EVERYONE ELSE NOTICES IT!

Then I should quote a person so that they may respond to what I've said.

At 1/4/06 07:17 PM, jonthomson wrote: Not that you're a clock and can talk for the CC, but...

ur wrong! Your wrong cause I have declared what you said as incorrectr because it contradicts with what I say. In conclusion, I am right. I win.

I'm not talking about the BBS. I'm talking about the Portal. I've seen possibly a dozen Portal entries from clocks in the past two years.

Now I must point out an obvious fact that's widely known and contributes nothing to this discussion such as THE BBS AND THE PORTAL ARE NOT THE SAME THING! Notice that I typed in caps to show my anger and so that I could be noticed.

Then I'm going to comment on Wade, just because Wade is widely known, and even though he'll never answer me.

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At 1/4/06 07:17 PM, Ryan_Kajito wrote:
At 1/4/06 06:55 PM, vozz- wrote: You should fucking die wade. Just because a you're in a group you aren't alowed to review 10 on a flash even if it's really good?

Fuck off.
Umm.. Why did you join Newgrounds then if you hate the creator of it?

Are you stupid? Wade didn't create it. Tom did. Wade is just Tom's brother who likes to attack people on the BBS to make him self feel big. Fuck off n00b.


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At 1/4/06 07:31 PM, vozz- wrote:
At 1/4/06 07:17 PM, Ryan_Kajito wrote:
At 1/4/06 06:55 PM, vozz- wrote: You should fucking die wade. Just because a you're in a group you aren't alowed to review 10 on a flash even if it's really good?

Fuck off.
Umm.. Why did you join Newgrounds then if you hate the creator of it?
Are you stupid? Wade didn't create it. Tom did. Wade is just Tom's brother who likes to attack people on the BBS to make him self feel big. Fuck off n00b.

Waid still has been given permission by Tom to admin the site. So, the only person who can stop Waid is Tom, not you guys. So stfu and quit thinking that NG is democratic, or, even better, quit caring so much. This is really Waid and Tom's decision, not yours. You don't have a "right" to do all the stuff you do on NG, you have the PRIVILEDGE of doing that.

You guys are acting like a bunch of spoiled brats getting a time out.

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At 1/4/06 07:31 PM, vozz- wrote:
At 1/4/06 07:17 PM, Ryan_Kajito wrote:
At 1/4/06 06:55 PM, vozz- wrote: You should fucking die wade. Just because a you're in a group you aren't alowed to review 10 on a flash even if it's really good?

Fuck off.
Umm.. Why did you join Newgrounds then if you hate the creator of it?
Are you stupid? Wade didn't create it. Tom did. Wade is just Tom's brother who likes to attack people on the BBS to make him self feel big. Fuck off n00b.

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Ross coded a new message board from the ground up, integrating it with our existing user system. All of the new back-end systems required an increasing amount of maintenance, so I hired my brother Wade to help keep the site running. Wade had always been an active, dedicated user of the site, so he was the perfect choice to help keep an eye on everything that went on. http://www.newgrounds.com/lit/history.html


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Posted at: 1/4/06 07:38 PM

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Reviews done for this purpose (mass voting) usually break review rules about being pointless/irrelevent, so mark them as abusive is possible.

Users who take this as serious as I do probably already do this, but keep it in mind.


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At 1/4/06 07:35 PM, The_Ghoul wrote: So stfu and quit thinking that NG is democratic

You wouln't happen to be making a comparison towards Wade and Hitler would you?

Portal Abuse. :(

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Posted at: 1/4/06 07:43 PM

wAdE U r SoOoOoO dReaMY!!!!!


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ElGhoulio

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At 1/4/06 07:40 PM, -wwwyzzerdd- wrote:
At 1/4/06 07:35 PM, The_Ghoul wrote: So stfu and quit thinking that NG is democratic
You wouln't happen to be making a comparison towards Wade and Hitler would you?

No, I'm comparing him to the administrator of a private website, which, (surprise) he is.

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At 1/4/06 12:00 PM, WadeFulp wrote: Meaning if a Clock or a Lock, or a SS member submits an entry, no other Clock, Lock, or SS member should review it or vote on it until after the weekly awards are over.

Let me get this straight.

Those people practically the only fair voters we have. The rest are idiot teens that think newgrounds top 50 material is everywhere and will vote 3 on Jimmy Robinson saying it's too sick.


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Im glad about this!

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Heres something Wade doesnt know about the STAR SYNDICATE!!!

As a group, Asians reported the smallest penis sizes among the ethnicities. Penis size and masturbation at an early age are probably unrelated. However, readers with larger penises currently masturbate slightly more frequently than those with smaller penises. Why? Who knows?


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havn't you guys whinged enough, I think we should all put our lollipops down and go nappy nappy jeez, so wade has made a rule that he thinks necessary. Must it go on for 10 pages of course not...

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At 1/4/06 07:43 PM, The_Ghoul wrote: No, I'm comparing him to the administrator of a private website, which, (surprise) he is.

Being an adminstrator means little. Tom, Wade, James, Tim, at a time, Ross, are all admins, but they all do different things. Tom founded the site, James wrote much of the code for it, Tim helps maintain the servers, and Wade...... well Wade babysits, so where does Wade step in when it comes to "decision making?" That's like saying Jeb Bush can do the job for George Bush.

I'm sure that Tom was the one who wanted to clear this problem up after revieving several complaints from users, so he had James improve the code the help combat this issue, and all Wade was needed for was to announce this, and plug some more sticker orders.

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Posted at: 1/4/06 07:57 PM

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Hey Wade did you like the I Am The Walrus collab, I spent a long time on my pieces for it

oh ya and I dont wanna read the thread but I was under the impression that the guy made reviews with his alts on our flash, yet somehow these alts must have gotten review banned.. otherwise I dont know why the people who "attacked" him would have gotten the impression that he did that...

aight ill read the whole thread now I'm a bit out of the loop... I just hope the deserving I Am The Walrus collab doesnt lose its award for this :(


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As you're lying there with wet semen on your stomach, the next step is to wipe it up. Just grab a Kleenex or a piece of toilet paper. (Depending on how much you ejaculated, you might need between several feet of toilet paper.) It's a lot easier to flush a Kleenex rather than to use a towel or T-shirt, which will need to get washed and may be noticed by someone in the mean time (which can be embarrassing, obviously). If you're so inclined, you can also eat your semen. This might sound disgusting, but if you want to do it, go ahead; it's actually perfectly safe (although you may or may not like the taste).


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I like to thank you wade and taking action of those bad reviewers on my movie. And i want to thank everyone who supported me about this matter. I'm not ever gonna review another clock movie again!


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OH btw Wade this is F00D and I *requested* my current ban on my main account and now I'm thinkin that was a pretty dumb thing to do considering I know actually want to have my voice heard..... but whatever I hope its alright that I'm posting with an alt, I'm not trying to cause trouble.

Anyways, the main thing I wanted to ask you why I have been review banned on my F00D account. It was awhile back for a different flash entirely. I believe it was a Star Syndicate flash, the Critic 90 Collab. I may have given the flash a high score but I was perfectly honest and constructive in the review. I would really appreciate it if you looked into the matter at least briefly. I've heard three seperate mods say that my review ban, as well as the review bans of Starberry and iscrulz, were undeserved. They all reviewed that flash highly but I believe they too did nothing that would really merit a review ban, and since the review score on that flash wasn't great, we certainly weren't trying to "pad" the score. In fact, I rarely ever participate in any score padding.


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At 1/4/06 07:35 PM, The_Ghoul wrote: So stfu and quit thinking that NG is democratic

but theres a voting system!!!!!!!!!!


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At 1/4/06 07:58 PM, luigi_dude12 wrote: I like to thank you wade and taking action of those bad reviewers on my movie. And i want to thank everyone who supported me about this matter. I'm not ever gonna review another clock movie again!

lol fag


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OGM THATS TERRIBLE

SLAY THEM!!!!!!

You wanna no whats worse wade, child abuse, but u don't make topics about that... DO YOU


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Posted at: 1/4/06 08:08 PM

high five wade!!! good job buddy you sure know how to take the trash out!!


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At 1/4/06 08:08 PM, ApeWithAMallet wrote: high five wade!!! good job buddy you sure know how to take the trash out!!

lmfao


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