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Response to Top 2,000 Exp Users 2013-10-15 15:27:38 Reply

I've decided to make the next update on 3rd November just so it's not being put aside by other events that I have for the following two weeks of that. So update #69 will be a 3-weeker while the last one will be a 5-weeker and I think for a final update the slightly bigger gap looks better for a send off.

At 10/13/13 03:34 PM, Nijsse wrote: I wouldn't mind taking over this list if you haven't picked someone else yet. This has been my favorite stat list throughout my stay on Newgrounds, so I would really like to see it going on. Sure, I'm slowly getting ancient as well, but with my mod duties and my obsession with the top 50 on this list, I don't see myself going anywhere. Just let me know how you feel about it!

You and Painbringer are some of the users who I'd like to see take over the list but only one can possibly be the list holder. Seeing as you expressed interest first, I will be approaching you first to go through with what you need to do for the whole update procedure. It's possible that you might find your own ways but I did a step-by-step instruction for Metal-Therapy/Dev started the hexalist update and that helped him so I don't mind doing the same to help you out with these updates.

At 10/13/13 03:56 PM, Painbringer wrote:
At 10/13/13 02:59 PM, Murray wrote: NEXT UPDATE: 10th October 2013
Don't you mean 10th November?

I did go through some background work to make sure the update was looking all good so other things were bound to be overlooked. I forgot to include the Halloween icons with the writer aura so that meant additional work for the update and I kept messing things up.

Anyway, I hope I'll be level 60 by the time the last update comes.

You'll easily make it on the final update of mine. I wish I stopped at either when I reached the top 100 or getting to level 60 but one was too soon while the other will take far longer than how long I want to keep this up.

And I could potentially take over the list, but it would be on my userpage instead of a dedicated website.

Not sure how you could do it all on your userpage blogs when you've got a character limit set.

At 10/13/13 04:19 PM, Dev wrote: Also, I would suggest getting in touch with Cyberdevil about hosting for the EXP list, if you do end up taking over.

I had the thought in mind but didn't want to say anything until my announcement. I could consider passing all the update files over to him once I've finished my work here.

At 10/14/13 01:48 AM, Haggard wrote: There once was a time where I simply couldn't understand why some users "forgot" to deposit, but now I am one of those users myself, heh.

The way I look at it, if I lost all motivation to deposit my alts, there's a chance I may lose my interest in depositing my main somewhere down the line. I'll see when the day I slip up with depositing arrives but that's only if it was entirely unintentional. Even to this day I have only missed nine deposits which is something when I've been doing this for nine years now.

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Response to Top 2,000 Exp Users 2013-10-21 09:39:16 Reply

At 10/13/13 02:59 PM, Murray wrote: EXP update #68 is now available!

Thanks for the update, Murray.

Glad to see that I've now moved up to #77, finally Cooping gfoxclock!

A few more appear to be looming into view, with me having waited so long at #78, 76 doesn't seem very far away at all now :)


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Response to Top 2,000 Exp Users 2013-11-03 07:41:02 Reply

Sorry guys, I know I said today was meant to be the day for the update but in my recent circumstances I'm really not up for doing this. I'll see what I can do with next Sunday but it's more likely to be done on the Monday if I am going to work on the update.

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Response to Top 2,000 Exp Users 2013-11-03 09:57:10 Reply

At 11/3/13 07:41 AM, Murray wrote: Sorry guys, I know I said today was meant to be the day for the update but in my recent circumstances I'm really not up for doing this. I'll see what I can do with next Sunday but it's more likely to be done on the Monday if I am going to work on the update.

It's alright, I can wait. I should be level 42 before next Sunday.


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Response to Top 2,000 Exp Users 2013-11-03 13:30:55 Reply

At 11/3/13 07:41 AM, Murray wrote: Sorry guys, I know I said today was meant to be the day for the update but in my recent circumstances I'm really not up for doing this. I'll see what I can do with next Sunday but it's more likely to be done on the Monday if I am going to work on the update.

No problemo. I don't know what these circumstances are, but if you're no longer in a position to do these updates, feel free to PM me the update procedure (a step-by-step instruction seems best) and be done with it. Knowing you a bit I expect you want to go out with an awesome (yearly?) update, but just so you know, I'm ready whenever you are. =)

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Response to Top 2,000 Exp Users 2013-11-03 14:22:29 Reply

At 11/3/13 07:41 AM, Murray wrote: Sorry guys, I know I said today was meant to be the day for the update but in my recent circumstances I'm really not up for doing this. I'll see what I can do with next Sunday but it's more likely to be done on the Monday if I am going to work on the update.

No problems here -whenever you get the chance is fine, of course.

At 11/3/13 01:30 PM, Nijsse wrote:
I'm ready whenever you are. =)

Really great to see this list will be continuing without a hitch! Awesome!


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Response to Top 2,000 Exp Users 2013-11-08 12:53:07 Reply

EXP update #69 is now available!

Hello all and welcome to the belated 69th EXP update. Several things to note:

• Halloween icons are still hanging around on the site so they still remain here as well.

• This is my second to last update and there is someone in mind that I would like to pass the EXP updates over to so hopefully he can do everything that I did before and perhaps he might be able to put his own twist to additional statistics just like what Dev/Metal-Therapy has done to the B/P and 10k lists that I did. That said, I'll still need to provide a step-by-step guide on how to make these updates for my successor so hopefully I can motivate myself to do that just before I retire.

• Pimp broke the 50k barrier for EXP so here's hoping he can gain another 50k at some point but I have my doubts that I'll even see that happening since who knows where we'll all be by then.

• Another purge had to be done on my EXP updates so only the 4 year special update and onwards are available. However, if Cyberdevil does go ahead with archiving all my updates on his site then you'll get to see everything on his site when that happens. I'm hoping to pass over all the update files to him once I've passed this on to my successor.

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Response to Top 2,000 Exp Users 2013-11-08 14:57:34 Reply

At 11/8/13 12:53 PM, Murray wrote: EXP update #69 is now available!

Thanks for the update! Moving on into the 300 range... not bad! :)

• Pimp broke the 50k barrier for EXP so here's hoping he can gain another 50k at some point but I have my doubts that I'll even see that happening since who knows where we'll all be by then.

50k is a pretty amazing achievement, I'm still not even halfway there. Guess I should say Congrats!

• Another purge had to be done on my EXP updates so only the 4 year special update and onwards are available. However, if Cyberdevil does go ahead with archiving all my updates on his site then you'll get to see everything on his site when that happens. I'm hoping to pass over all the update files to him once I've passed this on to my successor.

Sure thing. There's still plenty of space for a full archive of updates, I'll be happy to host them when the time comes!

Next update shall be one worth remembering.

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Response to Top 2,000 Exp Users 2013-11-08 16:47:54 Reply

At 11/8/13 12:53 PM, Murray wrote: EXP update #69 is now available!

Thanks for the update.

• This is my second to last update and there is someone in mind that I would like to pass the EXP updates over to so hopefully he can do everything that I did before and perhaps he might be able to put his own twist to additional statistics just like what Dev/Metal-Therapy has done to the B/P and 10k lists that I did.

I like to have fun with it. :P Anyway, good luck and thanks to Nijsse for keeping this awesome list going.

• Pimp broke the 50k barrier for EXP so here's hoping he can gain another 50k at some point but I have my doubts that I'll even see that happening since who knows where we'll all be by then.

I wish he'd post in the LUL about it... A big congrats to him -definitely one of the biggest statistical achievements in NG history.

FINAL UPDATE: 8th December 2013

And that will mark the end of your list updating career. Thanks for everything and enjoy the slightly elevated amount of free time. ;P


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Response to Top 2,000 Exp Users 2013-11-08 17:52:35 Reply

At 11/8/13 12:53 PM, Murray wrote: EXP update #69 is now available!

Thanks for the update!

143 Haggard 30,380 53 220 +1 70.06% 12/25/01

Oh... still missing a few deposits every now and then. Too bad, but that's just the way it is. Work is taking up a lot of my time and while I can surf the web freely at work, I often just don't find the time to deposit or there's so much going on around me that I don't want to "get caught" surfing on Newgrounds, heh.
But at least I still gained a rank, so everything's cool.


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Response to Top 2,000 Exp Users 2013-11-09 06:04:39 Reply

At 11/8/13 12:53 PM, Murray wrote: EXP update #69 is now available!

Thanks for the update, Murray, much appreciated as always.

I've managed to reach Level 57 this morning and looking it over, I'm level (for now) with Biofreak42069. Given a few more days, perhaps I can even eclipse him. southy and Dekathos lurking just above as well, should make easy fodder for the next month and my unending pursuit of the Top 50!

Looking back, I've managed to Coop both gfoxclock and Blitz-Mage over the past month, so I'm almost in the Top 75, now :D


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Response to Top 2,000 Exp Users 2013-11-09 18:46:25 Reply

Bloody hell, I finally did it. It feels very anticlimactic, for some reason I was expecting it to have much more of a kick, but I'm in the top 50.

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<crickets chirp>

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And yet, I did it. All those years ago, when I first joined up and when being in the top 50 did mean something, even if not much, I sort of set up a goal to make it here. Not sure what to do now though... keep going? Stop? It's a tricky question...

At 11/8/13 12:53 PM, Murray wrote: EXP update #69 is now available!

Hello all and welcome to the belated 69th EXP update. Several things to note:

Thanks for the update Murray! Long time since I last posted here...

• This is my second to last update and there is someone in mind that I would like to pass the EXP updates over to so hopefully he can do everything that I did before and perhaps he might be able to put his own twist to additional statistics just like what Dev/Metal-Therapy has done to the B/P and 10k lists that I did. That said, I'll still need to provide a step-by-step guide on how to make these updates for my successor so hopefully I can motivate myself to do that just before I retire.

I'm sorry to see you go, you've been a real trooper all these years, it's a commendable service that a lot of people that have come and gone have truly appreciated.

• Pimp broke the 50k barrier for EXP so here's hoping he can gain another 50k at some point but I have my doubts that I'll even see that happening since who knows where we'll all be by then.

Well, I used to believe I'd never actually make it to the top 50...

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And let me add that I am happy to see that I finally broke through when you were still around!

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Response to Top 2,000 Exp Users 2013-11-10 03:33:31 Reply

At 11/9/13 06:46 PM, Vert wrote: And yet, I did it. All those years ago, when I first joined up and when being in the top 50 did mean something, even if not much, I sort of set up a goal to make it here. Not sure what to do now though... keep going? Stop? It's a tricky question...

Congrats! Set next goal for Top 10?

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Response to Top 2,000 Exp Users 2013-11-25 17:48:30 Reply

At 11/25/13 02:38 PM, Murray wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1355051/2#bbspost24885280_post_text

Hmm. Thoughts, anyone?

So if I'm understanding correctly, you're going to need to vote 10 times to deposit your 10 exp now? I'd say that more casual users who don't happen to vote 5 times in a day probably aren't going to care much that they got 1, 2, 3, or 4 experience points. This just makes more work for the users who actually care about their experience rank and deposit on a daily basis... The "double exp" on weekends also sounds a bit silly.

Why can't they just add some new ranks/features to the B/P ranks for a change instead??


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Response to Top 2,000 Exp Users 2013-11-26 17:14:23 Reply

At 11/25/13 02:38 PM, Murray wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1355051/2#bbspost24885280_post_text

Hmm. Thoughts, anyone?

Thanks for the heads up.


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Response to Top 2,000 Exp Users 2013-11-26 17:38:06 Reply

At 11/25/13 02:38 PM, Murray wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1355051/2#bbspost24885280_post_text

Hmm. Thoughts, anyone?

Didn't the exp system used to work like this back in 2002 or so?

It sounds okay to me. At least it gives me a better chance to pass some of the more inactive users above me.


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Response to Top 2,000 Exp Users 2013-11-29 06:19:11 Reply

At 11/26/13 05:38 PM, Auz wrote:
At 11/25/13 02:38 PM, Murray wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1355051/2#bbspost24885280_post_text

Hmm. Thoughts, anyone?
Didn't the exp system used to work like this back in 2002 or so?

I think it was something like that where you where able to chose to deposit your exp even if you hadn't voted on 5 submissions.
I like the idea of "merging" all the portals exp wise. This should bring more attention to the art and audio portal.
I also like the idea of reducing the complexity. Right now we have a vote score and a review score. Confusing for newbees... I know I was confused about that when I first started coming here. ;)


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Response to Top 2,000 Exp Users 2013-11-29 10:02:39 Reply

At 11/29/13 06:19 AM, Haggard wrote:
Confusing for newbees... I know I was confused about that when I first started coming here. ;)

When I was a newb I thought you needed to 0 vote flagged submissions that came up in the flash portal search results to get blam points. :(


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Response to Top 2,000 Exp Users 2013-11-29 11:31:12 Reply

At 11/29/13 06:19 AM, Haggard wrote: I like the idea of "merging" all the portals exp wise. This should bring more attention to the art and audio portal.

i agree, i spend every other second on the art portal, i think it might encourage people to vote as well as view.

also wondering if the persons voting power will actually effect your vote instead of it counting as 1 on the art portal.


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Response to Top 2,000 Exp Users 2013-11-29 11:43:15 Reply

My take on the whole potential changes for depositing. Voting on ten entries a day might be a little tiring but I welcome the fact that votes will apply to any portal so it won't restricted to just games and movies anymore. It makes it easier to deposit on the phone as well since only a limited number of content from games and movies can be viewed. My older Android phone was able to play audio submissions but games and movies was another matter.

Only thing I'm not so sure about is the double EXP on weekends as Tom talked about on his other post. I suppose seeing as all of us have the chance to get the double points, it's not so bad and it's on a fairer scale than what I've heard being suggested in the past. If they're going ahead with that one idea, I'd like it if they made it Friday-Sunday for double points so each week you would earn up to 100 EXP. I like my round numbers.

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At 11/25/13 02:38 PM, Murray wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1355051/2#bbspost24885280_post_text

Hmm. Thoughts, anyone?

i want my 2 at the end of my experience figure to be special :(


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Response to Top 2,000 Exp Users 2013-11-30 09:26:32 Reply

I like the idea of he EXP in all portals, also allow Rank (B/P VP bonus) in all portals too. the idea of double EXP weekend be it friday-sunday would mean 100 EXP a week which wold equal 400 EXP a month which means 4,800 EXP a YEAR. and one could easily level up and get higher levels than what the current system allows. of course that would give US higher levels a even better advantage. ;)


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At 11/30/13 09:26 AM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: I like the idea of he EXP in all portals, also allow Rank (B/P VP bonus) in all portals too. the idea of double EXP weekend be it friday-sunday would mean 100 EXP a week which wold equal 400 EXP a month which means 4,800 EXP a YEAR. and one could easily level up and get higher levels than what the current system allows. of course that would give US higher levels a even better advantage. ;)

This is basically how Nuclear escalation works - someone at the top of the heap is going to get the most experience possible and allow them to stay ahead of you, no matter what happens.

Get used to it Tony, you're still going to be a little fish in a big pond ;)


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At 12/2/13 02:27 PM, Coop wrote: This is basically how Nuclear escalation works - someone at the top of the heap is going to get the most experience possible and allow them to stay ahead of you, no matter what happens.

true but you forget human error where people can forget to vote! to me its all about bragging rights.

Get used to it Tony, you're still going to be a little fish in a big pond ;)

well where I sit in the EXP ranks I would have to say I am medium sized fish ;)


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Response to Top 2,000 Exp Users 2013-12-02 16:35:24 Reply

Changes don't look so great for my situation. If I'm reading that correctly, you'll only be able to vote (and get EXP) on each submission once? For a long time I haven't had time for content, I spend the time I have elsewhere, so for now I'm mostly collecting stats. I suppose if art counts that would make it not very time-consuming, as long as it's clear how many more votes you can do so I don't forget about double weekends and such. But I guess my case isn't worth consideration because I'm not adding anything to the site by always voting on stuff I've already seen.

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Response to Top 2,000 Exp Users 2013-12-03 17:11:21 Reply

At 11/29/13 06:19 AM, Haggard wrote:
At 11/26/13 05:38 PM, Auz wrote: Didn't the exp system used to work like this back in 2002 or so?
I think it was something like that where you where able to chose to deposit your exp even if you hadn't voted on 5 submissions.

Yeah, it seems similar to the new system they have in mind.

I like the idea of "merging" all the portals exp wise. This should bring more attention to the art and audio portal.

Agreed. It is about time votes in those portals give experience. It'll at least give submissions some more votes.

At 11/29/13 11:43 AM, Murray wrote: My take on the whole potential changes for depositing. Voting on ten entries a day might be a little tiring but I welcome the fact that votes will apply to any portal so it won't restricted to just games and movies anymore. It makes it easier to deposit on the phone as well since only a limited number of content from games and movies can be viewed. My older Android phone was able to play audio submissions but games and movies was another matter.

Yeah. I can't watch or play anything on my current phone. I can still cast votes though.

Only thing I'm not so sure about is the double EXP on weekends as Tom talked about on his other post. I suppose seeing as all of us have the chance to get the double points, it's not so bad and it's on a fairer scale than what I've heard being suggested in the past. If they're going ahead with that one idea, I'd like it if they made it Friday-Sunday for double points so each week you would earn up to 100 EXP. I like my round numbers.

Topping it off at 100 XP per week would be great.

It sucks if you have to go away for a weekend with no internet access though.


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Response to Top 2,000 Exp Users 2013-12-04 02:37:27 Reply

At 12/2/13 03:02 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote:
At 12/2/13 02:27 PM, Coop wrote: This is basically how Nuclear escalation works - someone at the top of the heap is going to get the most experience possible and allow them to stay ahead of you, no matter what happens.
true but you forget human error where people can forget to vote! to me its all about bragging rights.

I'm looking at the deposit rates of the truly big fish - Pimp for example. That guy doesn't miss deposits, so catching him is going to take a while.

Get used to it Tony, you're still going to be a little fish in a big pond ;)
well where I sit in the EXP ranks I would have to say I am medium sized fish ;)

Must be a perspective thing - you look pretty small to me, though you're after more food, if you can get it :P


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At 12/4/13 02:37 AM, Coop wrote: I'm looking at the deposit rates of the truly big fish - Pimp for example. That guy doesn't miss deposits, so catching him is going to take a while.

oh yeah.

Must be a perspective thing - you look pretty small to me, though you're after more food, if you can get it :P

well I pumped the numbers and to start from Level 1 to where I am now will take 4.9 years of depositing and I check NG logs and I have a Deposit rate of 66.56%. so yeah I think I might be at least Medium size fish compared to all of these level 1-20 10-13 users.


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At 11/25/13 02:38 PM, Murray wrote: Hmm. Thoughts, anyone?

All positive. Attaining EXP on all portals should encourage voting for plenty who has previously had no interest in it, make it easier to gain EXP even on devices/connections that don't support heavier media forms than images and overall just unite different content forms in a better way. I've missed the deposit screen since it disappeared, but as long as there's still a message letting you know when you've collected all possible EXP for said day, the ability to gain EXP on a per vote basis won't be that big a change. Double EXP weekends sounds like fun as well, as long as the extra EXP isn't spread out on random occasions it seems like a fair system.