First of all, you should check out these threads:
The topic in which ShittyKitty unveiled his NG Lister, a program that pulls many many forms of data (exp, blams, saves, VP, posts, submission count, audio submission count, reviews, etc. etc.) from our profiles, back in August 2004:
http://www.newground../topic.php?id=165658
The topic in which ShittyKitty launched his NG Total Listing, a series of webpages that charted out tens of thousands of users ranked by all those different stats he was pulling automatically every week (sometimes twice a week):
http://www.newground../topic.php?id=166951
And finally, the topic in which another user's new BBS-crawling spider (for the purpose of getting info about topics and the authors who posted them and so forth) attracted the attention (and anger) of Wade Fulp directed at both that program and ShittyKitty's NG Lister program:
http://www.newground../topic.php?id=242568
Because they all... and particularly that last thread... have relevance to this thread, really. Unless liljim and Wade are perfectly fine with programs like these again. Programs that automatically DL profiles to mine data from them faster than a human with an unaltered browser can do so but simultaneously tax NG's database.
At 12/31/05 03:14 AM, BigBlueBalls wrote:
At 12/31/05 03:00 AM, Xiivi wrote:
Well it's a good list; however, those won't be the same list as the Monthly Voting set of users. It goes off of the top 2,000 active depositers for that month. And as you can see, many people in the top 2000 rank-wise are not in the top 2,000 active-wise.
From the Monthly Contest info page:
So who are these judges, you ask? Currently, the panel consists of the top 2,000 ranking Newgrounds members who were active within the past month. "Top 2,000" means they have more experience points than any other users (they would have to have deposited every day for at least a year to qualify). We feel these long-term users have earned the right to be involved in such an important process.
You highlighted the "ranking" and "they would have to have deposited every day for at least a year to qualify" portions of that quote, but you forgot to notice one other part of it:
"Currently, the panel consists of the top 2,000 ranking Newgrounds members who were active within the past month."
Hopefully the boldface and then the underline draws your eye to the part of the contest explanation that Xiivi and joobie and liljim and others have been speaking about.
The top 2000 exp users who are active within the past month would only be the same thing as the top 2000 exp users on NG PERIOD if all 2000 of the top 2000 exp users... deposited at least once within that month.
And of course they haven't. There are tons of dormant, retired, sleeping, gone, dead, whathaveyou high-exp users who used to deposit a lot but no longer do, as liljim was getting at.
Also, to be on the safe side; ask Wade or liljim about this because they might want to check it out for themselves even if you say it's ok.
This is no different than any other ranking site out there with Newgrounds users, except that it's more automated. I wouldn't have posted this on the site, if I thought it wasn't ok. They can take a look at it all they want, I don't see any reason for them to be bothered about it.
See those earlier thread links I posted. Many people have "thought something was ok" but been told otherwise in the past. The reason to be bothered is if it affects the performance of the site as a whole for the 1000s and 1000s of users who come to this site but don't care about stat lists. This has been told to us time and time again. To the point where it's been really effectively drilled into our heads and stuck forever. #;-}>
At 12/31/05 03:23 AM, BigBlueBalls wrote:
At 12/31/05 03:15 AM, madknt wrote:
thats awesome.
this program sounds pretty useful..
could be used for top posts.. B/P.. etc. etc. as well?
Oh I'm sure I can get those going as well. Right now I'm just seeing how well this is received and I can then get to working on B/P and other lists.
Again... been done before. Two or three times, actually. For most of the stats you've already thought of. You need to read some Wi/Ht? history.
At 12/31/05 04:04 AM, j00bie wrote:
bigblueballs, it is the top 2000 users who have deposited the most for the month.
i know plenty of users not in the top 2000 who are elgible to vote, and users in the top 2000 who also can not because of missed deposits ffff
jooborz, your heart was in the right place while correcting him, but your head wasn't. You don't become eligible to vote by depositing "the most" for the month. You become eligible to vote by depositing AT ALL. As in even once, within that month. Not the most. The EXP is where "the most" counts, not the deposit count within the month.
The depositing the most part counts for winning the $100 cash prize for voters. Not for being one of the monthly contest voting members. The two things have separate qualifications.