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Religious astro-pyhisicist's 2005-12-26 17:45:55

With so many people supporting evolution, dont you think you guys are getting a little ahead of yourself?In order to have evolution you need a universe no? So the common belief is the Big Bang theory.(though most of you who rely on it couldnt explain if your life depended on it) However in order to sustain life a planet needs more than 200 absolute pre-requisites. indeed earth seems so perfect that many astro-phyisicist's like stephen hawking and the 1978 nobel larueate, Dr. Arnold Penzias, say that its inconcevable to not to believe in a supernatural being. Anyway i happen to believe in the bang theory in, which i believe, is the only way you can. you see the big bang theory answers many questions, but for you atheists how do you account for that infestiminal? where did that come from? You see with me i say "god". what about you?


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Response to Religious astro-pyhisicist's 2005-12-26 19:42:28

I didn't know that Hawking was religious. Is that in one of his books or is there a quote from him available on the internet that I could see because I'd hate to go around repeating that he's religious without any evidence.

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Response to Religious astro-pyhisicist's 2005-12-26 20:03:29

Maybe we're just lucky that we could adapt to live in the situation that was provided? Maybe the Big Bang happened thousands of times? Maybe there are different dimensions with infinite possibilities and we happen to exist in one where we had to exist?

It's all speculation no matter how you slice it, as far as I can see.

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Response to Religious astro-pyhisicist's 2005-12-26 20:06:10

I don't know, where did God come from?

Any way that God could have come into existence could have theoretically been the same way that the original matter in the universe came into being.

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Response to Religious astro-pyhisicist's 2005-12-26 20:07:46

Also:

"The following article was originally published in ANALYSIS in 1994 (Volume 54, No. 4. pp. 236-243).

1. Stephen Hawking has recently argued that there is 'no place for a creator', that God does not exist. In his quantum cosmology"

If you don't post sources, at least post credible claims.

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Response to Religious astro-pyhisicist's 2005-12-26 20:15:23

At 12/26/05 05:45 PM, sylvosthemaccabee wrote: ...However in order to sustain life a planet needs more than 200 absolute pre-requisites...

200 requisites? What are they? Linksy please...
Well, what's the big difference in believeing this as oppose to the presupposition that a maker did this?

(I really don't believe you... Scientific theories don't use presuppositions, or else they become pseudo-science.)

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Response to Religious astro-pyhisicist's 2005-12-26 22:51:49

At 12/26/05 08:07 PM, Elfer wrote: Also:

"The following article was originally published in ANALYSIS in 1994 (Volume 54, No. 4. pp. 236-243).

1. Stephen Hawking has recently argued that there is 'no place for a creator', that God does not exist. In his quantum cosmology"

If you don't post sources, at least post credible claims.

same for you


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Response to Religious astro-pyhisicist's 2005-12-26 23:34:40

At 12/26/05 05:45 PM, sylvosthemaccabee wrote: indeed earth seems so perfect that many astro-phyisicist's like stephen hawking and the 1978 nobel larueate, Dr. Arnold Penzias, say that its inconcevable to not to believe in a supernatural being.

I'm calling your bluff. Sources?
Also, there's plenty that science can't explain, that's why there are still scientists doing research in the world. It's all about NOT pulling facts out of your ass just to explain things sooner.


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Response to Religious astro-pyhisicist's 2005-12-26 23:50:43

At 12/26/05 10:51 PM, SEXY_FETUS wrote: same for you

Let's see, I posted a direct quote from the website, a quote that included THE ORIGINAL SOURCE ARTICLE.

If you can't find it from that, fuck you. A direct quote from a website is generally enough to track down the site in about four seconds. Offhandedly mentioning a fact, however, is not, as he did.

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Response to Religious astro-pyhisicist's 2005-12-27 00:18:36

Personal opinion: God exists, 7 days creation is not literally 7 days. My basis for the God exists is that life is so complicated, there is SUCH an infinitesimal chance of those nucleotide pairs coming together just the right way, DNA coming to be, a perfect climate etc, that God MUST exist. God jump started it all-said "let there be a 'Big Bang'" or such. Seriously, though, science is coming closer and closer to the inevitable affirmation of the existence of a creator. Even Einstein was religious, he said something to the effect of the reason that he studied physics was so that he could come to understand God's world more fully.

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Response to Religious astro-pyhisicist's 2005-12-27 00:28:44

At 12/27/05 12:18 AM, mackid wrote: Personal opinion: God exists, 7 days creation is not literally 7 days.

God didn't create the world in 7 days, he did it in SIX days, go read a bible before you go shooting your mouth off.

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Response to Religious astro-pyhisicist's 2005-12-27 00:33:24

Well, granted, I made a mistake. Whooo. You caught me. But the point stands: 6 days is not literally 6 periods of 24 hours. 6 periods of many, many millions of years, perhaps.

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Response to Religious astro-pyhisicist's 2005-12-27 01:56:49

At 12/27/05 12:33 AM, mackid wrote: Well, granted, I made a mistake. Whooo. You caught me. But the point stands: 6 days is not literally 6 periods of 24 hours. 6 periods of many, many millions of years, perhaps.

I explain what you are talking about quite a bit more throughly in here it's the fifth post from the top on page two.


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Response to Religious astro-pyhisicist's 2005-12-27 02:01:32

At 12/27/05 12:33 AM, mackid wrote: Well, granted, I made a mistake. Whooo. You caught me. But the point stands: 6 days is not literally 6 periods of 24 hours. 6 periods of many, many millions of years, perhaps.

I'm just being a jerk. I saw the same mistake in some poetry that I had to read for High School. The teacher wasn't impressed when I called the author an idiot.

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Response to Religious astro-pyhisicist's 2005-12-27 02:54:23

"is there a god debate"
season 15 214, episode 456 252 632

--"I am an idiot and I heard this and that and I believe it without asking questions"part 8123--

In this episode, a lonely kid wonders how the universe came into existance and the only conclusion he can find is that someone put it there, failing to realise that Elfer is right and if there is a god that magicaly popped out of nowhere, then a universe could also pop out of nowhere on its own so there is indeed no place for gods and all that shit.

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