What the hell Canadians?

[agent66]

So many of the Canadians that post here are so negative towards Americans. What is it that makes you so superior? Do you realize you are the pot calling the kettle black? When I read many (not all) of your posts, you sound exactly how you percieve us, A bunch of arrogant pricks with balls that would embarrass an elephant.

P.S. Yes our president is an ass master. We know it, were not happy about it. Contrary to popular belief, we did not chose him. Our vote doesn't mean shit here.

P.P.S. 99% of the shit our government does in the world pisses us off. Everyone I know wishes we would be more like Canada and mind our own fucking bussiness. So kudos for you on that.

[VasIndustries]

At 12/23/02 04:38 AM, agent66 wrote: So many of the Canadians that post here are so negative towards Americans. What is it that makes you so superior? Do you realize you are the pot calling the kettle black? When I read many (not all) of your posts, you sound exactly how you percieve us, A bunch of arrogant pricks with balls that would embarrass an elephant.

I agree. I don't know why they think they are superior. Some bring up good points, but others just thoughtlessly bash America. If you ask me, pride is a waste of time anyway. How can you have so much pride for a country just for being born within its borders? People always want to belong, and no matter what the groups are that they are a part of, they like to think they are the greatest in the world. Such blind pride can only provide a bullet in the head.

[P-Chan]

At 12/23/02 04:38 AM, agent66 wrote: So many of the Canadians that post here are so negative towards Americans. What is it that makes you so superior? Do you realize you are the pot calling the kettle black? When I read many (not all) of your posts, you sound exactly how you percieve us, A bunch of arrogant pricks with balls that would embarrass an elephant.

P.S. Yes our president is an ass master. We know it, were not happy about it. Contrary to popular belief, we did not chose him. Our vote doesn't mean shit here.

P.P.S. 99% of the shit our government does in the world pisses us off. Everyone I know wishes we would be more like Canada and mind our own fucking bussiness. So kudos for you on that.

I agree. I think there's a bit too much unjustified hate against Americans on this board. Think about it, hating a culture for the sake of hate is just prejudice. If anyone has a beef about American's in general, it would be best to clarify why and not simply label everyone as being bad.

Keeping with Agent66's previous point, there are a lot of Americans who don't agree with America's policies, so labelling them all the same is unfair. Afterall, www.whatreallyhappened.com is actually made by americans. :) Also keep in mind that the Americans who voted in Bush were actually in the minority. If there's anyone to hate, it's the politicians and interest groups in general that are dragging us into this war.

[MarijuanaClock]

Canadians don't fell superior to America, in fact we fear America. We fear the might of the American jugernaut and we fear we will lose our Canadian identity. We have seen what you are, and we don't want to become it. It's not an issue of superiority, it's an issue of ideology. America controls Canada, for too long America has brought presure forth upon Canada to conform with America, to fit with America.

I hate to break it to you, but the whole world thinks America is arrogant, and you are. Rightly so, who's going to argue with 2000 nukes? Don't try and say otherwise.

As for Canada being superior, well we choose our ideology and you choose yours. When it comes to ideology right and wrong, better or worse, is subjective. Look America lives they way it wants to live and Canada lives they way it wants to live. As a result Canada has a higher standard of living and is ranked higher by the UN in many field over America. At the same time America has a fierce military and is the "leader of the free world," I'm not saying which is better, becuase none is. It's what the people from each perspective nation wants.

[Arekanderu]

At 12/23/02 05:49 AM, P-Chan wrote:

At 12/23/02 04:38 AM, agent66 wrote: So many of the Canadians that post here are so negative towards Americans. What is it that makes you so superior? Do you realize you are the pot calling the kettle black? When I read many (not all) of your posts, you sound exactly how you percieve us, A bunch of arrogant pricks with balls that would embarrass an elephant.

P.S. Yes our president is an ass master. We know it, were not happy about it. Contrary to popular belief, we did not chose him. Our vote doesn't mean shit here.

P.P.S. 99% of the shit our government does in the world pisses us off. Everyone I know wishes we would be more like Canada and mind our own fucking bussiness. So kudos for you on that.

I agree. I think there's a bit too much unjustified hate against Americans on this board. Think about it, hating a culture for the sake of hate is just prejudice. If anyone has a beef about American's in general, it would be best to clarify why and not simply label everyone as being bad.

Keeping with Agent66's previous point, there are a lot of Americans who don't agree with America's policies, so labelling them all the same is unfair. Afterall, www.whatreallyhappened.com is actually made by americans. :) Also keep in mind that the Americans who voted in Bush were actually in the minority. If there's anyone to hate, it's the politicians and interest groups in general that are dragging us into this war.

Well people hate america mostly because of it's president who is going to make WWW3.Persoanly i don't hate america i feel sory for it that it has such an asshole president.But thats not the only reason why people hate america , there are a lot of those fanatic/patriotic americans especialy on the internet that keep talking shit how americans are so superior then everybody else,how they can make everything better then everybody else ,and that they have the right to do everything they want including going to war(i guess they are Busj suporters)not to mention all those europeian haters that keep insulting europe.Most people including me hate those bastards realy much.And if you haven't met some normal americans as well you think that all americans are such assholes

[Black-Guy]

At 12/23/02 05:55 AM, MarijuanaClock wrote: Canadians don't fell superior to America, in fact we fear America. : I hate to break it to you, but the whole world thinks America is arrogant, and you are. Rightly so, who's going to argue with 2000 nukes? Don't try and say otherwise.

Well arrogant as we are I don't understand what makes america so unbearably arrogant. Why does the world hate the U.S. so much? Is it that we throw our money around to help others?

[agent66]

Well arrogant as we are I don't understand what makes america so unbearably arrogant. Why does the world hate the U.S. so much? Is it that we throw our money around to help others?

Good point. We are the first to help other countries when they need it, and we always help the most. I think we should let the rest of the world take care of thier own problems(finnancial,military...). It would give us tax payers a break and maybe we wouldn't be despised so much.

[P-Chan]

Good point. We are the first to help other countries when they need it, and we always help the most. I think we should let the rest of the world take care of thier own problems(finnancial,military...). It would give us tax payers a break and maybe we wouldn't be despised so much.

Hold on there...

America only helps others when it benefits from it. More often than not, it starts trouble throughout the world and, dare I say, "terrorizes" many countries with its actions.

The US NEVER EVER intervienes without getting something in return.

And in terms of foreign aid? Per capita, the United States is quite low. (I wish I had some figures for you but I heard this from a very well respected speaker.) There are many countries out there who give more, that have less.

[NJDeadzone]

George Washington said to beware of entangling alliances, that's why we're so WIIFM(What's In It For Me?) The last thing we've ever done is help nations from the goodness of our heart. America never stood for that. It stood for Locke's beliefs in the practicality of government. It was the first nation to do so and still the most successful. Take that, Canada! ;-) no hard feelings

[P-Chan]

At 12/24/02 10:52 PM, NJDeadzone wrote: George Washington said to beware of entangling alliances, that's why we're so WIIFM(What's In It For Me?) The last thing we've ever done is help nations from the goodness of our heart. America never stood for that. It stood for Locke's beliefs in the practicality of government. It was the first nation to do so and still the most successful. Take that, Canada! ;-) no hard feelings

Exactly. Exactly. Finally, a clear head and a honest heart on this forum.

The United States is probably THE most "practical" government in existance, and ironically enough, in doing so is the greatest terrorist nation in the world. Not kidding. It topples any government that isn't capitalist, whether they be democratically elected or not, and it does so with a smile. In keeping with that practical mentality, it pretty much keeps the domestic media on a leash, and the media, therefore, pretty much says what the government wants it to say.

So, one could classify the US population into three different groups...

1) Those who know what is going on and agree with it.
2) Those who know what is going on and don't like it.
3) Those who haven't a clue as to what is actually going on in the world. (People who watch CNN).

Sadly enough... 3) is much much larger than even 1) or 2) put together. Which is pretty sad.

I think this world would be a much better place if 3) shrank. Hell... even if 1) grew at the expense of 3) it wouldn't be that bad... at least you're being honest then.

[NJDeadzone]

absolutely, however, remember this: terrorism is in the eye of the beholder

[P-Chan]

At 12/25/02 01:09 AM, NJDeadzone wrote: absolutely, however, remember this: terrorism is in the eye of the beholder

I disagree. Assisting in the assassination of democratically elected presidents, toppling democratic regimes, and selling arms to terrorists is terrorism no matter how you look at it.

[Snaziksoyka]

As a Canadian I dont feel any more superior to you or anyone else in the US or in the world. I dont think its fair to acuse ALL canadians of thinking we're all high and mighty because in reality, not all of us do. Of corse, like in every society, there are the arogant people who think they are higher than everyone else, for example, the rich above the poor, the white above the black and suposedly the canadians above americans. but as i said before, there are arogant people in every society including yours. So dont even deny the fact that some americans think they are superior to everyone else in the world because that would be false...

[NJDeadzone]

At 12/25/02 01:19 AM, P-Chan wrote:

At 12/25/02 01:09 AM, NJDeadzone wrote: absolutely, however, remember this: terrorism is in the eye of the beholder

I disagree. Assisting in the assassination of democratically elected presidents, toppling democratic regimes, and selling arms to terrorists is terrorism no matter how you look at it.

well when you're brought up believing that you're performing righteous acts in order to go to heaven, that person's mind is clear of doubt that s/he is performing any wrong

[Angryjeff]

i can't speak for everyone but i can tell u where my america bashing comes from. Well first i don't really bash as much as point out facts. One people are not better than the other but a system of goverment, laws can be. Also i am very bitter because of the americanism that canada is going through right now

[Loser95]

I dont really understand it eiher. Im canadian, about the only american people I bash are their government and the millions of brainwashed, I mean though, You can't group everyone into that though.cause really everyone country has morons/idiots.

[ChocolateChipClock]

as an american...i look up to canadians...I WANT TO MOVE TO CANADA!

[Black-Guy]

Why would you want to move to Canada?How could you look up on them? They are no greater than us, no?

[Narcissus]

At 12/25/02 01:19 AM, P-Chan wrote:

At 12/25/02 01:09 AM, NJDeadzone wrote: absolutely, however, remember this: terrorism is in the eye of the beholder

I disagree. Assisting in the assassination of democratically elected presidents, toppling democratic regimes, and selling arms to terrorists is terrorism no matter how you look at it.

Actually, he is correct in his statement, and at the same time, both of you are correct. The label of 'terrorism' depends upon whoever is reporting the news and whoever is writing the history books. Also true that terrorism is terrorism. The problem is that 'terrorism' has been labeled as 'evil'. It is not evil, it is a form of combat, just as guerilla warfare, conventional warfare and even nuclear warfare are forms of combat.

Now with that in mind, one can easily call the American revolutionaries of the late 1700s terrorists. Most Americans will immediately deny that fact, making the usual illogical statements to support their denial, but it is a fact, nonetheless. The only difference between the terrorists of 1776 and the terrorist of 2002 is the tools with which they have to use. Today, we have the mass media, explosives, commercial planes, the Internet, etc. Two centuries ago, we had only pen and parchment, fire, horses and a lot of tea to dump.

[Narcissus]

In reading through these posts, I would like to say that it is nice to see some diversity of input and rational thinking. It is a breath of fresh air compared to some other boards on which I have tried voicing my perspective. It is nice to not be 'me' against 'them' in a political discussion for a change.

It also nice seeing that some of you do study history and policy. I have talked to people (Americans here) who completely forgot that the US was a slave nation, for example, and swear up and down that the Civil War was a war about 'freedom' (even a first year history student can point the contrary).

Anyhow, it is nice to see some open minds for a change. :)

[captincanada]

At 12/27/02 09:53 AM, Black-Guy wrote: Why would you want to move to Canada?How could you look up on them? They are no greater than us, no?

Ok, Canada is a great place to live with a wide verity of people from every corner of the earth. We are a ploiticly correct version of America thus we are broke,(60cents=1 canadain $) I moved to the U.S. when I was 9, At 13 I was 6ft tall and towered over americans young and old, i was not super tall in winnipeg when i went back, Also im almost retarded in canada but put in gifted programs in the u.s. so go figure

[MarijuanaClock]

At 12/27/02 09:53 AM, Black-Guy wrote: Why would you want to move to Canada?How could you look up on them? They are no greater than us, no?

Higher standard of living, higher level of social programs, higher level of education, liberal laws.

That doesn't make us better, it's just what we feel is important. As opposed to strong military and a highly-competive, capitalistic society.

Just a difference in ideology. However, many Americans would prefer that ideology. When it comes to ideology there is no good or bad though, it's a belief. People are free to hold any belief they want.

[Evil-Overfiend]

This is a very touchy subject. Either side you take will make other people either think that your siding with them or attacking them. The reality of the situation is that, like it or not we're all part of north america. As north americans we share a symbiotic relationship and whether we like it or not we need each other. Its just too bad that the leaders of our seperate countries are both fucking morons when it comes to controling the powers that they possess. What it really boils down too, is that our cultures may be similar, but the little differences are more appearent when facing a time of crisis. As a Canadian, I feel that we are over staturated by american influences, especially when it comes to political aspects. Although I feel this way and maybe many of us do, it still shouldn't affect the way we conduct ourselves when it comes to a simple vote on a website. Merit should be given when its earned and Blamming the shit out of something should be when something simply sucks ass. Not the nationality of the artist producing the good and the bad. I see alot of stupid, but at the same time, inteligent, North Americans, nationality should not be the sole factor for determing the quality of flashes. Seriously, and if you really think about it, our community on Newgrounds really has no power in this world, so we should simply just enjoy the fact that here in North America we are free to enjoy such things as Blamming or Protecting shit on a web site. I leave meaning no ill wills to anyone. Peace

[NJDeadzone]

At 12/27/02 01:38 PM, Narcissus wrote:
It also nice seeing that some of you do study history and policy. I have talked to people (Americans here) who completely forgot that the US was a slave nation, for example, and swear up and down that the Civil War was a war about 'freedom' (even a first year history student can point the contrary).

Anyhow, it is nice to see some open minds for a change. :)

It is evident that my friend Narcissus has read Alvin Toffler's War and Anti-War, or will plan to do so ;-)...

[Ted-Easton]

(I'm Canadian)
We don't consider ourselves any better than Americans as people, but as a country we dissaprove of many of it's policies. We look down on the American government (not to say ours is any better, we just disapprove of American practices) because of they way it handles some foreign situations.
It does seem that the American government has it's finger in every pie, and can't seem to mind it's own buisness. I don't mean to offend anyone, but America just does a lot of things we don't like.

[Nightshadeplus]

I believe it is the US gov't that has the inferiority complex. There are those that live in the US that believe that the US has a RIGHT to do certain things in other countries. Myself, I believe that US should do whatever it takes to defend its citizens from harm but I don't want civilians of another country that are just like me and don't want any trouble to be harmed in the process. "To make an omelet, you have to crack a few eggs." I don't believe in that. I maintain the hope that there is a peaceful solution to every problem.

[Ted-Easton]

And that there is a way to make an omlette without cracking eggs? :P

[P-Chan]

At 12/25/02 05:01 PM, NJDeadzone wrote:

At 12/25/02 01:19 AM, P-Chan wrote:

At 12/25/02 01:09 AM, NJDeadzone wrote: absolutely, however, remember this: terrorism is in the eye of the beholder

I disagree. Assisting in the assassination of democratically elected presidents, toppling democratic regimes, and selling arms to terrorists is terrorism no matter how you look at it.

well when you're brought up believing that you're performing righteous acts in order to go to heaven, that person's mind is clear of doubt that s/he is performing any wrong

I believe there has been a serious miscommunication here. Are you saying that America's citizens are brought up to believe their nation's terrorist actions will ensure them a spot in heaven? (I didn't think you did...)

Well, maybe my wording was a little unclear, so I'll reword myself:

AMERICA, is the greatest terrorist nation, and topples democratically elected regimes, and sells arms to terrorists. I wasn't talking about Iraq or whatever.

Ironically enough, you've proven my previous point wrong by showing me that "YES", terrorism IS in the eye of the beholder. And the beholder in this case, didn't consider the United States of America.

If I myself misinterpreted something, feel free to correct me.

[IamjustSci]

It's really quite sad the way many Americans view our neighbor to the north. Politically they're almost identical, it's as if you took America and completely shifted the leniencies to the other side. Most Americans are so ignorant of the relationship between the two countries feeling Canada to be, to quote Homer Simpson, "America Junior". But it was brought up earlier that we're all a part of North America...yes, but so is Mexico, and the culture similarities between America and Canada veers too far from Mexico to even say it's a North American thing. It's almost as if there's an uneasy confederacy between the two nations. I mean whenever America does something major politically it affects Canada, NAFTA has us economically connected, and even our pop cultures are linked. So I can see how it is that so many Canadians get angry at Americans, at least to a certain degree. But as long as their government has no real defiance of American policies and actions which affect them, they're really just as bad as us.

[P-Chan]

I agree with some of things you're saying.

However, not the final statement. But before I continue, I'd really like a bit of clarification. Tell me, what do you consider defying the United States? And could you give me some examples of nations that have defied the United States?