Woman rapes man... is it possible?

[2lazy2work]

In a Bergen court a woman is convicted of raping a man while he is asleep.
Can a woman really rape a man?

(If it were me i would not have told the police, but that is just my opinion)

http://www.aftenpost..l/article1027927.ece
(news article)

[TheDoctor]

At 12/6/05 01:55 PM, 2lazy2work wrote: Can a woman really rape a man?

Would you turn down free secks?

[x-Toadenalin-x]

Perfectly possible - consider a couple of scenarios
1) Woman gets a man drunk, forces him to have sexs against his will
2) Woman assualts a man and forces him to give her oral\digital sex
3) Woman assualts a man and man, as a biological impulse, he actually acheives an erection. The woman then has sex with him.

Although I admit its hard for a woman to rape a man.

[Empanado]

Y'know, my sister, who's in law school, was saying the other day that a woman can't rape a man, because "a man needs an erection to have sex with a woman, and that cannot happen against his will". My, what brilliant minds await us in the national justice system.

A woman can perfectly rape a man, although depending on your definition of rape.
If "rape" is defined as unwilling vaginal sex, then it can happen if the man was drugged (i.e. heavy doses of viagra given to him) and then forced to have sex. Or if the man has an unvoluntary erection and then forced to have sex, although the later is more difficult, because the tension would cause the man to lose his erection in most cases.
If "rape" is defined as any kind of assault of sexual nature, then it's a hell of a lot easier for a woman to rape a man. I don't think I need to give you the details here.

[RedSkunk]

Or the man could be underaged. Or the woman could tie a man down and then violently sodomize him. I'd consider that rape.

She could slip something into his drink...

There's plenty of scenarios where it's possible.

[ScaryDeadGirl]

At 12/6/05 02:39 PM, Empanado wrote: Y'know, my sister, who's in law school, was saying the other day that a woman can't rape a man, because "a man needs an erection to have sex with a woman, and that cannot happen against his will". My, what brilliant minds await us in the national justice system.

Your sister is incorrect

Surprise the target in a private place and knock him down. Jam the nerfball into his mouth to prevent loud noises attracting attention, duct tape the ball in place (careful not to block his nose, mind you), tape his hands together behind his back, and remove his pants. Place the rubber bands around the base of his unit, taking the place of the one-way valves that normally prevent penile deflation. If you're in a hurry, use the popsicle sticks to hold the unit up so you don't need to wait for full inflation.
-Shove something of reasonable diameter up the ass --reported by the medical profession to produce 'emotionally inappropriate' erections in ~70% of the target population.
-Constrict the base with several turns of a rubber band, allowing inflow but not outflow circulation.
-Combine option two with pressure to the testicles.

[RedSkunk]

At 12/6/05 03:05 PM, ScaryDeadGirl wrote: Your sister is incorrect

.... uhmm.............

[Cycloptic-Man]

oh come on whyd he even bring her to court we all know he liked it! but the underaged thing and the sodonomizing thing is rape so if that happened yea he liked it but she has to do some jail time. its perfectly possible for a woman to rape a man or a woman serial killer or any of that other crazy shit guys do.

[LazyDrunk]

At 12/6/05 03:11 PM, red_skunk wrote:

At 12/6/05 03:05 PM, ScaryDeadGirl wrote: Your sister is incorrect

.... uhmm.............

Men can rape other men too, you sick freak.

[x-Toadenalin-x]

At 12/6/05 03:15 PM, Cycloptic_Man wrote: oh come on whyd he even bring her to court we all know he liked it!

You know you don't always have to assume that every secshooal experience is always 'fun' for the man. Imagine if you had sex with your mother - you'd hate it!

I don't want to make an assumption, but since it says in your profile that you're 15, I would guess that you probably haven't had very much 'experience', although I could be wrong, so you simply assume that sex is always mutually rewarding.

I'm almost certain that if you asked any married couple there would be times when the man didn't enjoy the sex.

[mayeram]

Whew, that’s pretty Scary, ScaryDeadGirl. That would have to be a very large woman, or a very small man. I don’t think any woman on this planet could just brute force rape me, I am just too big. Only like Superwoman or Wonder Woman could do that.

Another consideration is that it would either have to be a woman that wanted a particular man, or a woman that was SO ugly that she made a 50 year old crack whore look like a beauty contest winner. There will always be NASTY men that are willing to have sex with REALLY NASTY women. Often they will even pay for it.

[JoS]

I am surprised no one has mentioned the use of a weapon. I dont care how little she is and how big th eguy is, if she has a knife blade right up against your throat or a gun what are you going to do. A woman is perfectly capable of raping a man, even without all these fancy tricks poeple are mentioning. It doesnt matter his biological response, if he says no dont rape me that means no getteh fuck off me. Its against his will, even if its nto his biological will, his mental state is what defines consent.

You can have an erection in situations where you dont want to if provided the right stimulation.

[Empanado]

At 12/6/05 03:23 PM, mayeram wrote: Only like Superwoman or Wonder Woman could do that.

Now that would be HOT.
<_<
>_>
I mean, uh, not. That would be not.

Another consideration is that it would either have to be a woman that wanted a particular man, or a woman that was SO ugly that she made a 50 year old crack whore look like a beauty contest winner. There will always be NASTY men that are willing to have sex with REALLY NASTY women. Often they will even pay for it.

Then again, the woman could simply be a sadistic psychopath who could only be satisfied if she raped someone. There certainly seems to be a lot of those going around lately, both male and female.

[ShadzKing]

only if the women is a shemale

[Empanado]

At 12/6/05 03:28 PM, Bancer wrote: I am surprised no one has mentioned the use of a weapon.

When they say "and FORCE him to have sex with her", I don't think they're exactly talking about her asking him with a lot of determination.

[ScaryDeadGirl]

At 12/6/05 03:11 PM, red_skunk wrote:

At 12/6/05 03:05 PM, ScaryDeadGirl wrote: Your sister is incorrect

.... uhmm.............

Posting that site always cracks me up.

Guys always think they'll be for any kind of sex, but I've seen some scary looking women out there that only a select few would ever think about even touching. I guess most guys picture a semi-attractive woman raping them and not some beastly thing...

A somewhat related story:
In Africa there are women who rape men, often at gunpoint, in a deliberate attempt to infect them with AIDS.
nice eh?

[mayeram]

At 12/6/05 03:21 PM, x_Toadenalin_x wrote:

Imagine if you had sex with your mother - you'd hate it!

Actually some people would be really turned on by the idea of being with their mother. I know it is sick, but some people would actually want to have sex with their mother. Hell I bet people have raped their own mother before.

The thing about a man having non-pleasurable sex, I can only see two ways that would happen. One, if they wanted to please their nasty wife and two if they were trying to manipulate their female boss that thinks they are really hot into promoting them.

[Holo-Alf]

Maybe I'm some kind of male freak but I would HATE to have emotional-less sex. I had one 1 night stand once and I felt sick the next day. I can only enjoy sex if it's with someone I really care about. I know this is kinda weird but I don't think I have all that much testostirone, I'm shit at sport, I'm useless in a fight and I don't have a huge sex drive. All I'm saying is, don't lump all males together.

[x-Toadenalin-x]

At 12/6/05 03:32 PM, ScaryDeadGirl wrote:

A somewhat related story:
In Africa there are women who rape men, often at gunpoint, in a deliberate attempt to infect them with AIDS.
nice eh?

Lovely - do you know why? Or could you provide a source for me to read? I believe you, but it seems quite unbelievable to me (If that even begins to make sense to you :) )

At 12/6/05 03:32 PM, mayeram wrote:

Imagine if you had sex with your mother - you'd hate it!

Actually some people would be really turned on by the idea of being with their mother. Point taken, but I assume that doesn't apply to most people here, so I was happy using it as an example.

The thing about a man having non-pleasurable sex, I can only see two ways that would happen. One, if they wanted to please their nasty wife and two if they were trying to manipulate their female boss that thinks they are really hot into promoting them.

What if they believe with all their heart that sex before marriage is wrong, and then are forced to do it?
What if they are in a committed relationship, then are forced to have sex with someone and betray their partner?
What if they are, as ScaryDeadGirl suggests, forced to catch an STD, so they can never have sex again?
What if they've just had an operation, and so sex is painful?
What if they simply don't want to feel violated?

There are hundreds of situations, not just two.

[2lazy2work]

My, you people sure are creative...

It is probably impossible for a woman to rape a man, because woman do not have the
proper 'equipment' to do so.

[mayeram]

Thanks ScaryDeadGirl, that site is interesting. I had never even thought about a woman brute forcing a man before this topic was created.

Something tells me that even if a man was over 18 and was truly raped, that he would have trouble finding anyone that felt sympathy for him, or even believed him. In those cases they will almost ALWAYS take the woman’s word over the man's word. The woman could easily act like what the man was saying was stupid and impossible, and most people would agree with her. I bet the woman could even make it look like rape to get the man in trouble for raping her. Though that would be much harder, people would be looking for what was likely, a man raping a woman before a woman raping a man. Even if a man could get people to believe him, he would probably be too ashamed to tell anyone. He was just de-manned by a woman, which would be even worse then raped by another man. (I would rather be raped by the sickest woman in the world then by a man. as long as I didn’t receive permanent damage from it anyway.)

[2lazy2work]

On the other hand, if the guy is asleep and he does not give consent to have sex with him, then that is against the law

he may have enjoyed it while he was asleep, but maybe when he woke up the girl that was giving him oral sex was some fat ugly chick, then i could totally understand why he decided to press charges. :)

[ScaryDeadGirl]

At 12/6/05 03:45 PM, x_Toadenalin_x wrote:

Lovely - do you know why? Or could you provide a source for me to read? I believe you, but it seems quite unbelievable to me (If that even begins to make sense to you :) )

The original story was archived >:(
http://www.news.com.au/404

Different story but not a really reliable source
http://iafrica.com/news/sa/293299.htm
The police did not believe the male youth, and it's since been chocked up to an urban legend by the western world, but no one investigated to prove or disprove what the guy was claiming. With the rape and spread of AIDS throughout that country I'm inclined to believe the story just because everything there is so fucked up. Men are raping children and babies for christ's sake. O_o
Anyway I should not have stated that as fact since the convincing story isn't available any longer. :(

There was also a woman in the late 80's (I forget her name sorry) who was convicted of sleeping with men who had no knowledge of her HIV. The story change from an initial 55 or so men to 22 I think? It's not rape just another story about women giving men a disease. After she confessed this she later attempted to say she didn't intentionally infect anyone she just didn't know how to say "no" to a guy, and then it changed to all the men she selpt with knew of her condition. Crazy people. That's still around the time people didn't fully understand AIDS and HIV either though.

Where were we inthis thread? Yea a woman could rape a man if she really wanted to, but she'd have to knock him out someway first or be a really large muscular lady. That all sounds like way too much work.

[x-Toadenalin-x]

Thanks. The link at the top didn't work, but the second one did. Just goes to show what a wierd, wierd world we live in. I'd say that link, if accurate, more or less conclusively proves that a woman can rape a man.

[JoS]

Enough with this double standard sterotype bullshit.

This is direct from the Canadian Code of Criminal Conduct regarding consent for sexual activity. If a guy says no that would be lack of consent, regardless of if he has an erection.

(2) No consent is obtained, for the purposes of sections 271, 272 and 273, where

(a) the agreement is expressed by the words or conduct of a person other than the complainant;

(b) the complainant is incapable of consenting to the activity;

(c) the accused induces the complainant to engage in the activity by abusing a position of trust, power or authority;

(d) the complainant expresses, by words or conduct, a lack of agreement to engage in the activity; or

(e) the complainant, having consented to engage in sexual activity, expresses, by words or conduct, a lack of agreement to continue to engage in the activity.

[Gunter45]

No always means no. It doesn't matter what gender they are. I can't believe people are even saying, "He probably enjoyed it." That is completely asinine. By no means is sex always pleasureable; the simple fact that it was going on without the man's consent is enough to make it a bad psychological experience.

[A-Carrot-By-Dr-Riot]

If either party has consumed ANY alcohol at all, consent is impossible and rape has taken place. That's how it works.

[Holo-Alf]

At 12/6/05 05:59 PM, Dr_Arbitrary wrote: If either party has consumed ANY alcohol at all, consent is impossible and rape has taken place. That's how it works.

When I wake up feeling ill for stuffing a kebab down my throat, I don't feel kebab raped. I just think "why did I get so drunk, It was my own stupid fault for eating that damned kebab!!!" Just coz you're pissed doesn't mean you can blame you're lack of consent on the other person. And I'm sure many pissed up people object if someone tries to rape them. I've been pissed as a fart but still managed to refuse the debatable delights of Maryland Chicken.

[Gunter45]

At 12/6/05 05:59 PM, Dr_Arbitrary wrote: If either party has consumed ANY alcohol at all, consent is impossible and rape has taken place. That's how it works.

I think it's if you can prove you were drunk, not if you consumed any alcohol at all. If somebody has half a beer, I don't think they could make the claim that they weren't able to give consent.

[A-Carrot-By-Dr-Riot]

It is not a matter of debate whether alcohol impairs judgment. As far as I know, if one is under the influence of alcohol, even a small amount, consent is impossible.

I'm not saying that this is a good way to do things or not, it's just how it works in the United States.