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At 11/17/08 03:47 PM, SoulMaster71 wrote: That's around 2000, 3000 B/P by year's end... That would be quite a hard goal to achieve for a normal user. But at your level, maybe not so much of a hard goal. Good luck with that!

it's not so much the user as it is the portal; in the golden days (as I like to think of them) there were far more submissions to the portal, and more correct judgments about them as well; less user mass voting for a point, usually the save.

you may have seen the B/P ranks 51+ lists and the star pace notes, although they haven't been in frequent use lately; star pace is 1,000 B/P points or more per week. so in better portal times, it would be more common to see.

Even I became from around 100 B/P points to 30,000 in a little under a year in 05'-06'. But now it's more of a hard task now since the portal has nearly dried up, and a daily pace of 142 points a day, as required, means you may not sleep, you may not leave your computer, and you may not stop refreshing, as well as succum to spam voting and get every one right.

That is a high price to pay.

At 11/17/08 04:49 PM, Ismael92 wrote: Also, it will be difficult to get to Supreme Commander, but I hope you can do it... I will get there after a long time... If I ever get there...

Speak not with hesitation, young one. your way in the Barracks has just begun. I realize you enter this world when it is already corrupt and hard to mend, but remember the many who did not give up on newgrounds, the few who made a name for themselves from it.

And of course, remember every person who doesn't feel massive amounts of shame and of wasted time, when he looks at his internet stats.

Well I'm thrilled to have gotten to Sergent ,love the 3 lines on my new badge. After waiting for so many months its a huge achievement for me. Seeing it in my profile is grand nothing of course compared, to Supreme Commander ,but when the next roster comes round i will be moving on up the list at last. Now so eager to see what Grand Theft Auto 4, the control pad is weird. ts cool looking ,but odd feeling when i very quickly used it.

At 11/13/08 12:38 AM, Phantom wrote:

At 11/12/08 08:05 PM, aldlv wrote: *salute*
- Brigadier General aldlv reporting in -

We like you, really; but you just wrote one paragraph using 32 periods (dots "."), it makes you sound like Obama and his "Uhhhh's", not that those aren't lovely.

XD
not sure why i do it
i just get used from MSN, and is kind of hard to quit it

Nice to see you again.

thaks Sup. Commander
*salute*

At 11/17/08 06:13 PM, phantomlassuk wrote: Well I'm thrilled to have gotten to Sergent ,love the 3 lines on my new badge.

yes.. lovely isn't it... =D
congrats Sergeant
*salute*

At 11/13/08 02:52 AM, Lotus wrote: Sgt. Major

congrats to you too

At 11/17/08 05:09 PM, Phantom wrote:

At 11/17/08 03:47 PM, SoulMaster71 wrote: That's around 2000, 3000 B/P by year's end... That would be quite a hard goal to achieve for a normal user. But at your level, maybe not so much of a hard goal. Good luck with that!

it's not so much the user as it is the portal; in the golden days (as I like to think of them) there were far more submissions to the portal, and more correct judgments about them as well; less user mass voting for a point, usually the save.

it sound like good times
gosh... i wish i were on NG on that time, I like more to blam, i'm kind of exigent with the flashes but, even like that, l can't have more blams that saves, and i do blam a lot

I'm not quite ready to join you guys, but I am the highest a police officer can go... private here I come!

At 11/17/08 07:25 PM, fuzzum111 wrote: I'm not quite ready to join you guys, but I am the highest a police officer can go... private here I come!

So you are, make you sure you contact us when you are a Private, and I've explained to you on the NGDD the entry admissions, which wouldn't hurt to follow here.

Alright thanks a whole ton for all the help you have given, atleast advise wise. You guys are quite welcomeing to me n.n I want to level up and get more voteing power :P Help protect NG

You passed 5000 B/P! Congrats!, yep cool now got over 5001 experience points very good going for me ,and its lovely the new badge three stripes instead of the one. I'm being a stat whore here but its so cool to get the new badge, after months of being stuck with the same one. So I hope to see you when you level to Private ,you will get there in the end. You look close enough your right this a friendly place. What I meant Phantom was I got my ps3 all set up.

At 11/18/08 09:05 PM, phantomlassuk wrote: What I meant Phantom was I got my ps3 all set up.

Wrong thread. Also, I understood that much, you just said it in an incorrect manner is all. As for everything else, the portal seems to be steady, not fast, but steady.

At 11/18/08 10:08 PM, Phantom wrote: Wrong thread. Also, I understood that much, you just said it in an incorrect manner is all. As for everything else, the portal seems to be steady, not fast, but steady.

Seems like I'm slowly retiring from the portal. It was an honor serving justice and goodness with you guys, seeing that I'm gone from the list.

At 11/18/08 10:10 PM, Seamonky wrote: Seems like I'm slowly retiring from the portal. It was an honor serving justice and goodness with you guys, seeing that I'm gone from the list.

Slash PM'ed everyone regarding the roster, no one was uninformed about the changes in it regarding activity measures.

Although you understand this isn't the sort of place to mind having a good user back.

Wow, my work unblocked NG's forums!

I don't know who goes thru stuff and blocks it sometimes, then unblocks it, but they SUCK AT THEIR JOB! I mean, really big time SUCK.

Anyway, hello again, everyone. I've been in Portland, Maine and the internet is HORRIBLE there. I tried watching flash movies and a simple 1MB movie takes up to several MINUTES to load. Bleh!

I had to entertain myself in other ways so I dragged my 360 up with me. I must say, Fable 2 is excellent fun.

I did get a little B/P done, but my high standards of not voting 2 on pure crap that'll pass anyway kept me from getting much. I'm almost the next level, though. Less than 10 days left on that.

At 11/17/08 05:09 PM, Phantom wrote:

At 11/17/08 04:49 PM, Ismael92 wrote: Also, it will be difficult to get to Supreme Commander, but I hope you can do it... I will get there after a long time... If I ever get there...

Speak not with hesitation, young one. your way in the Barracks has just begun. I realize you enter this world when it is already corrupt and hard to mend, but remember the many who did not give up on newgrounds, the few who made a name for themselves from it.

And of course, remember every person who doesn't feel massive amounts of shame and of wasted time, when he looks at his internet stats.

Thanks master... I suppose...

At 11/17/08 06:13 PM, phantomlassuk wrote: Well I'm thrilled to have gotten to Sergent ,love the 3 lines on my new badge. After waiting for so many months its a huge achievement for me. Seeing it in my profile is grand nothing of course compared, to Supreme Commander ,but when the next roster comes round i will be moving on up the list at last. Now so eager to see what Grand Theft Auto 4, the control pad is weird. ts cool looking ,but odd feeling when i very quickly used it.

I don't know why, but I never liked that badge at all. I feel there are too many lines in a small badge and there's no room for them.

Also, there are so many lines in this there, that they are actually smaller than in the previous badge. Anyway, I've just noticed this...

Oh, and congrats :D

While we are on the subject of B/P I have noticed that blams have been much easier to come by lately. A couple of days I have gotten 70 or so B/P with just 5 more saves than I did blams. I know that if I would 5 all of the spam submissions that are submitted I'd have about 30 more B/P points a day, but it's nice to know that there are still some people who 0 the unfunny and unoriginal spam out there.

So Phantom has a problem, surprise surprise, with the new submissions that I have been posting. So I've decided to explain why these submissions are being posted from me and why they are the way they are. ZekeySpaceyLizard says all sprite animations are crap and all sprite animators are lazy bastards who don't want to do real animation. Whether you agree with him or not there are many sprite animations on this site that take more work, effort, and time than any of his movies, no matter how good some of his movies are. Since he flamed my own friend pigeonmaster88, a very good sprite animator, about this subject we have decided to poke some fun at him with my Zekey Loves Sprites movies. From the people who understand this have loved the flashes even if they haven't reviewed. All of them have favorites from people who I both know and have no clue who they are. One even passed with a 3.0 and up because the people understood the purpose and the concept of the movies, which is sometimes more important then the movies themselves. Anyway, like I said, they are just poking fun at Zekey with Ironic humor. They will be done in 2 more episodes after the one that I submitted today so don't worry about anymore of them after this.

At 11/19/08 08:43 AM, Corky52 wrote: So Phantom has a problem, surprise surprise, with the new submissions that I have been posting.

Phantom isn't the only one, I have a problem with them as well, they just look very pointless, nothing happens in them. No matter how much back story you give it, it doesn't seem to be entertaining. It's no diffrent from half the other crap with music and some slight animation.

I know, I've submitted some crap before but I'm going to admit that it is crap and pointless. If you put some effort into it, it would be better. I was tempted to write a review just to raise my review count but I didn't think it was worth it, you know that it's bad, why tell you.

ZekeySpaceyLizard says all sprite animations are crap and all sprite animators are lazy bastards who don't want to do real animation.

Those who don't draw their own sprites, yes because it's not hard to move sprites around when you have a sprite sheet ready, I've done it before and it's much easier than drawing and animating everything.

Whether you agree with him or not there are many sprite animations on this site that take more work, effort, and time than any of his movies, no matter how good some of his movies are.

No, a lot of Zekeys decent work is far better than any sprite flash on this site, there are so many animations that are better than the sprite animations. Okay some sprite animations are amusing but would be better drawn.

One even passed with a 3.0 and up because the people understood the purpose and the concept of the movies, which is sometimes more important then the movies themselves.

I find this quite sad, really, someone who puts a lot of effort into their flash, their first say and only manages to scape pass, yet you're canvas with a few sprites on and some music gets between 2-3 in score. Are you proud of that?

Anyway, like I said, they are just poking fun at Zekey with Ironic humor.

I have a feeling he doesn't really care.

Even if Zekey doesn't care I've received PM's from many sprite artist who have thought it was rather funny. That's the audience that I wanted to reach. I don't care what you think about them as long as the people who it pertains to finds it funny and like the submissions. Those are the people who I wanted to entertain. Not people who thinks everything has to be serious work. I'm not mass voting them or anything either so if you don't like them then vote 0 on them. It's as simple as that. I don't even vote on them myself because I don't think it's fair. What I don't get is if these submissions are really making you guys hurt so much then you need to set your priorities of what is important in your life and what isn't. A flash submissions, which several people find funny and obviously more people do than don't, that you happen not to like is really making your life so bad that you complain about it?

At 11/19/08 12:13 PM, Corky52 wrote: I don't care what you think about them

I find this quite hard to believe, sorry but all I am doing is stating my opinion about them, I'm not insulting you or anyone else, if I am then sorry. But you see the need to insult my opinion or suggest that my opinion is somehow wrong.

Not people who thinks everything has to be serious work.

Yes because if you look at my favourites, the only flash their are serious ones!! I will admit that I do like some spam flash, they amuse me. All I am saying is I don't like your 'series' because it doesn't seem entertaining, to me.

What I don't get is if these submissions are really making you guys hurt so much then you need to set your priorities of what is important in your life and what isn't.

This can be said about your responce, why are negative opinions making you feel bad? Maybe you need to set your priorities, I am fine, I've said I don't like your sprite flash and I've said why, that's all I have to say, it's my personal opinion. Your flash and how many you make means nothing to my life, it's not been keeping me awake at night because I don't care if you make 10, 20, 50, 200 etc I still won't like them unless I find them entertaining.

A flash submissions, which several people find funny and obviously more people do than don't

Well no, this is maybe only partly true, I submitted something that was just text and music and it passed with a score of 2+, I'm sure most people protected it because I have flash submissions so they thought it wouldn't be blammed. Which it should have been, so yeah, though maybe some people do like it, that's there opinion.

that you happen not to like is really making your life so bad that you complain about it?

I have as much right to hold a negative opinion as John Doe has to hold a positive opinion. If I did like it and expressed that, you wouldn't be saying it's affecting my life and insulting my opinion, you'd be happy most likly.

Tell me, why do negative opinions mean so much to you? Why do you have to attack someones opinion just because they don't like something?

At 11/19/08 12:42 PM, Little-Rena wrote:

Tell me, why do negative opinions mean so much to you? Why do you have to attack someones opinion just because they don't like something?

The comments that I mentioned were towards Phantom. If you like it then I don't care what you think. Well read the response that I wrote to the first negative review on my first episode. I said it's ok if they didn't like it and they are entitled to their own opinion. Now Phantom told me to stop making them. He didn't say I think you should stop making them, I would rather you not make them, etc.. He didn't express his opinion he gave me a command to stop submitting them. Those comments were towards him.

Like I said I don't care if you like them or not. I only care if the people who think they are funny like them. I didn't say I wanted you to like them, but only to realize that there is people that do like it and I'm making it for them. To entertain them, which it does. Whatever you feel about them I just rather not be told to stop just because you didn't like them.

At 11/19/08 01:18 PM, Corky52 wrote: Those comments were towards him.

But you used those comments as a reply to my post, which seemed to suggest that you directed them towards me.

Whatever you feel about them I just rather not be told to stop just because you didn't like them.

I've not once told anyone to stop making a series of flash and I wasn't going to start here, I don't care if you want to submit those sorts of flash, I will vote how I please and hold my own opinion. No matter how much I hate a flash, I'm not going to tell the author to stop making it.

Although I can see why Phantom may tell you to stop, since the EGB is suppost to protect the portal and not fill it with more junk than is already there. That's not to say I agree or disagree with that, I'm just saying I can see the reasoning behind it.

Jesus Corky, make a giant rant why don't you...

YES, for the love of god, I disagree with some of your submissions, this latest one too because you claim to be going for a what appears to be a "joke" and spite to show zekey that sprite can be very popular.

I myself grew up on Sprite games but your submissions aren't passing because every single viewer likes it. It's passing because people see just by links from your submissions by the bottom, that you have a lot of other submissions and they think: "Oh well, this can't be too bad, right? the guy has made a lot of flash"

Also, despite common belief, I am not a god. My telling you to "cut it out" was was a suggestion; no playing matter, but not a command.

Please stop being such a sissy (again, suggestion). Accept the fact not all people like your attempts at flash, and that with this current "series" they are no more than pathetic, not entertaining and below any true NG par.

As an animator I'd just like to say this:

I've never felt that using the portal to gain attention and poke fun at people THRU SPAM was a good idea. I just feel it's childish.

I do get it, though. He said something that offended you and you are trying to make a point, but I just feel you're going about it the wrong way by spamming the portal with, let's face it, utter crap.

At 11/19/08 03:00 PM, Phantom wrote: Jesus Corky, make a giant rant why don't you...

Lol It's small compared to some of the ones that you have made right?

Also, despite common belief, I am not a god.

You being the only one to believe it doesn't make it a common belief. ;)

My telling you to "cut it out" was was a suggestion; no playing matter, but not a command.

Please stop being such a sissy (again, suggestion).

Oh there goes the internet badass in you again. Don't worry you know who else acts the same exact way and tries to be a internet badass? This GOTH kid.

Accept the fact not all people like your attempts at flash, and that with this current "series" they are no more than pathetic, not entertaining and below any true NG par.

That was the same exact point that I was trying to make to you. I didn't want or care if you guys liked them. I just wanted to make the point that just because you told me to stop them that I wasn't going to stop making them since other people do disagree with you guys. 10 more people have favorited me as an author from this series so I'm telling you that yes some people do like it and because they do I'm going to make it for them not you.

At 11/19/08 07:02 PM, RSQViper wrote: As an animator I'd just like to say this:

I'm not an animator. I have no clue how to make a real flash.

I've never felt that using the portal to gain attention and poke fun at people THRU SPAM was a good idea. I just feel it's childish.

Or you are ignorant to the fact that some people find the humor in it?

I do get it, though. He said something that offended you and you are trying to make a point, but I just feel you're going about it the wrong way by spamming the portal with, let's face it, utter crap.

No he didn't offend me. I'm not an animator, (since you guys don't really consider these more than spam than I don't consider myself an animator) but he did offend about 100 other sprite artists the day he said that. So I made a small joke series. Waaa get over it guys. Does it matter if it's utter crap or not? Sometimes it's the concept behind the flash and the meaning behind the flash instead of the actual content. It's something an adult mind should be able to comprehend.

Don't worry though, I have 1 more episode and then I'm finished. I've decided to make it non spam by adding several episodes into one and by adding a lot of actual animation to it instead of just animated sprites, which move in one place.

We are in agreement here.

Thanks Ismael92, the three badges are quite impressive to me but maybe not as cool as say the higher badges. Well I'm not sure about what ZeckeySpaceyLizard said, but I think I remember him posting somewhere about sprites not being very good. Anyone got a link? I could not find any information on his profile.

Now this passed do you think its stolen? I think so only submission and its from Trouble here

SexBomb, by alexprogramming Type: Game Rating: Everyone

From here.http://www.trouble.co.uk/games/clas sicgames.html.

At 11/19/08 07:19 PM, Corky52 wrote: Oh there goes the internet badass in you again. Don't worry you know who else acts the same exact way and tries to be a internet badass? This GOTH kid.

And insulting him makes you no diffrent to the way you are trying to portry him, now you are just making yourself look bad by insulting someone, the more you do it, the less people will think of you here I believe.

I'm not an animator. I have no clue how to make a real flash.

Maybe you should practice, just a tip, I mean you don't have to if you don't want but maybe you would get something more out of it.

Sometimes it's the concept behind the flash and the meaning behind the flash instead of the actual content. It's something an adult mind should be able to comprehend.

No, sure if the flash had some effort put into it, I could see the concept playing a part but when you have to read a description and watch a loop of sprites, there's not really any concept to speak of, some people might see why you did it but to most people, it probably means nothing.

Eitherway, I think this whole 'argument' should come to an end because it's obvious the more negative things people say here, the more you are going to try to make them look stupid and try to put across that they really care about events on the internet like it bothers their everyday life, but to me, you are just starting to sound like you care a lot about this 'series' and are unwilling to accept negative comments made.

If you just accepted them then it wouldn't get this far, I think if you expected this club to see them how you and a few others see them, then you are possibly in the wrong club for this. But I can't speak for everyone here, still I really think you should drop it, this 'adult' mind you talk of should tell you to just end it, it's going nowhere.

At 11/19/08 10:37 PM, phantomlassuk wrote: Now this passed do you think its stolen? I think so only submission and its from Trouble here
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/47 0068
From here.http://www.trouble.co.uk/games/clas sicgames.html.

It could be, there is little or no suggestion on the submitters profile that they are the one who made it, the username doesn't seem like that of a sponsor either. Looks like they stuck ads at the front of the flash, the quality of the flash doesn't look too bad in comparison though so doesn't look decompiled.

Hard to say for me, it doesn't look blatently obvious that it has been stolen other than lack of user information.

At 11/20/08 03:22 AM, Little-Rena wrote:

I'm not an animator. I have no clue how to make a real flash.

Maybe you should practice, just a tip, I mean you don't have to if you don't want but maybe you would get something more out of it.

Maybe that's what I'm doing now? I learned the action script to some of that stuff and the simple stuff all in one day. Who cares if I submit them or not? I'm getting better though. Rather slowly, but like you said it takes time. Anyway, I told you to stop bitching about it. I haven't submitted the last one because I've been trying to make it into a real animation. Or did you miss the entire part of my post?

Sometimes it's the concept behind the flash and the meaning behind the flash instead of the actual content. It's something an adult mind should be able to comprehend.

No, sure if the flash had some effort put into it, I could see the concept playing a part but when you have to read a description and watch a loop of sprites, there's not really any concept to speak of, some people might see why you did it but to most people, it probably means nothing.

Read above. I already said several times now that I'm working on the last one and trying to make it good. That was the plan all along. Make several sprite flashes and then the finally good, or what is good to me is still terrible to most people, but far from a spam submission also. I can explain the strategy better after it's submitted.

Eitherway, I think this whole 'argument' should come to an end

And guess what? It would have if you could have ended it.

If you just accepted them then it wouldn't get this far, I think if you expected this club to see them how you and a few others see them, then you are possibly in the wrong club for this. But I can't speak for everyone here, still I really think you should drop it, this 'adult' mind you talk of should tell you to just end it, it's going nowhere.

Dude drop it. I have.

At 11/19/08 10:37 PM, phantomlassuk wrote: Now this passed do you think its stolen? I think so only submission and its from Trouble here
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/47 0068
From here.http://www.trouble.co.uk/games/clas sicgames.html.

I really don't know. Just the fact that the account has signed up so recently it's hard to tell, but that doesn't mean someone who owned a gaming site didn't find out about newgrounds and decided to see his games/flashes here too. I have a hard time finding things that are stolen unless they are already on newgrounds.

Well talk about surprises Tom Fulp himself sent me a Pm not lying here this his reply I'm doing some follow-up to be sure. "The game runs MochiAds so the creator probably WOULD submit it to NG, even if it was sponsored by Trouble.co.uk... I just gotta figure out if alexprogramming is really the programmer. :)

I cant give you a link but this is amazing okay I know its not much of a big deal ,but this made my day. So he has read all my PM? I sent him. Corky52 this is a rely about the link to the game I thought may be stolen but on close inspection may not be sorry, wanted to say what a nice guy he is.

At 11/19/08 07:19 PM, Corky52 wrote:

At 11/19/08 03:00 PM, Phantom wrote: Accept the fact not all people like your attempts at flash, and that with this current "series" they are no more than pathetic, not entertaining and below any true NG par.

That was the same exact point that I was trying to make to you. I didn't want or care if you guys liked them. I just wanted to make the point that just because you told me to stop them that I wasn't going to stop making them since other people do disagree with you guys. 10 more people have favorited me as an author from this series so I'm telling you that yes some people do like it and because they do I'm going to make it for them not you.

you don't make flash because a few ppl like them, you don't make flashes because you like to do them... you make flash just for the +1 stat... and because the portal is in so full of crap right now, you are able to pass your, whatever that shit is, because it can't be called a flash

At 11/20/08 09:46 AM, phantomlassuk wrote: Well talk about surprises Tom Fulp himself sent me a Pm not lying here this his reply I'm doing some follow-up to be sure. "The game runs MochiAds so the creator probably WOULD submit it to NG, even if it was sponsored by Trouble.co.uk... I just gotta figure out if alexprogramming is really the programmer. :)

I see. Well good luck and trying to figure out if he was the one that programmed it or not. Also, I have had Tom respond to almost every one of my PM's within a small amount of time. He's really good with that and he is the guy that you want to go to if you have a question about something.

I cant give you a link but this is amazing okay I know its not much of a big deal ,but this made my day. So he has read all my PM? I sent him. Corky52 this is a rely about the link to the game I thought may be stolen but on close inspection may not be sorry, wanted to say what a nice guy he is.

Ha, yeah the first time Tom responded to one of my PM's I was the same way. I never thought that he would respond and within such a fast time period. I think it was an hour later or something. I asked him about the ads that you put into flashes and movies.

Also, didn't we drop the subject about my flashes? Isn't that the whole point of several people saying drop it?

This club isn't accomplishing what I thought it was going to accomplish when I first joined. At first, I thought it would be a honor to join a club with members like you in it, but slowly I realized that there wasn't anything to be proud about being a member of a club which has users who dislike me. That's why I'm leaving the EGB. Good luck in the future.

At 11/20/08 01:42 PM, sonofkirk wrote: This club isn't accomplishing what I thought it was going to accomplish when I first joined. At first, I thought it would be a honor to join a club with members like you in it, but slowly I realized that there wasn't anything to be proud about being a member of a club which has users who dislike me. That's why I'm leaving the EGB. Good luck in the future.

I couldn't agree with sonofkirk anymore. He has hit it right on the nose. This club isn't something that I want to be a part of either for almost the same exact reasons. I also will leave along with sonofkirk.

At 11/20/08 01:42 PM, sonofkirk wrote: This club isn't accomplishing what I thought it was going to accomplish when I first joined. At first, I thought it would be a honor to join a club with members like you in it, but slowly I realized that there wasn't anything to be proud about being a member of a club which has users who dislike me. That's why I'm leaving the EGB. Good luck in the future.

Yeah, because a club that has done nothing but warmly accept you and being a part of the conversation, being congratulated and congratulating others for 20 pages and 2 months without a bad word said about you is a HUGE sign of people disliking you?

At 11/20/08 01:46 PM, Corky52 wrote: I couldn't agree with sonofkirk anymore. He has hit it right on the nose. This club isn't something that I want to be a part of either for almost the same exact reasons. I also will leave along with sonofkirk.

You're a slimeball, you used your audio friend to weasel out of this club, and I say good riddance. I personally will feel nothing but relief to know that the clubs I work in, you won't be.

If you feel an overwhelming urge to argue about this, do the world a favor and send me a simple PM.