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At 5/8/08 08:52 PM, aldlv wrote: ranking updated, now top 300 VP list (well, ok, is not such a big deal), Wade's Portal Crew, EagleRock & Phantom are back...

You bet your ass I'm back, I have relieved myself of my 2IC duties, for I feel I'm just not active enough anymore to provide you with my best service, but with that, I hope my advice is heeded to if such is needed.

Also, Eagle, what's up, you busy bloody bee you.

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At 5/9/08 02:01 AM, Phantom wrote:
At 5/8/08 08:52 PM, aldlv wrote: ranking updated, now top 300 VP list (well, ok, is not such a big deal), Wade's Portal Crew, EagleRock & Phantom are back...
You bet your ass I'm back, I have relieved myself of my 2IC duties, for I feel I'm just not active enough anymore to provide you with my best service, but with that, I hope my advice is heeded to if such is needed.

Also, Eagle, what's up, you busy bloody bee you.

... *blinks hard* ZOMG!

Nice to see YOU again! I heard about you relieving yourself of your 2IC Command. Sad as it is, I understand the "inactivity" thing. Trust me I understand.

Either way, very glad to have you back! I've been busy yes...but the advent of Wade's Portal Crew thing is certainly going to help Newgrounds along, so I'm definitely sticking around for this.

Hit me up on IM if you so have the inclination. I'll be around. I'll be working, so I may have long pauses in the convo, but I'll be around.

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I think a few more people in the EGB need to start using AIM. Last night we had an EGB chatroom going on AIM with EagleRock, PossiblePancakes, BlueHippo (at one point), and myself. It's great to get to know other EGB members, too.

So, if you wanna get on AIM and join in the fun, go here to get a Screen name, and go here to download AIM.

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At 5/9/08 11:51 AM, NEVR wrote: I think a few more people in the EGB need to start using AIM. Last night we had an EGB chatroom going on AIM with EagleRock, PossiblePancakes, BlueHippo (at one point), and myself. It's great to get to know other EGB members, too.

So, if you wanna get on AIM and join in the fun, go here to get a Screen name, and go here to download AIM.

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Trillian or Pidgin instead. Note that Trillian you can get a free version that works with ICQ or AIM, while Pidgin is free, and works with MSN, AIM, and pretty much any chat protocol you can throw at it. I use both at different locations, so I can recommend both to anyone.

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At 5/7/08 03:43 PM, NEVR wrote: Hey guys, I've been speaking to BlueHippo, and he wants to return to the roster, so unless anybody has any objections (can't imagine why anybody would), then I'll be adding him to Tuesday's update. Cool?

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Hell no, that guy is a piece of shit and hasn't even posted in this thread for a couple months. DLT is much cooler than that troll will ever be.

At 5/8/08 09:00 PM, Sir-Nuts wrote: I think we could ask BlueHippo. He's a long time member here and a moderator, let's see what he thinks of it.

Mmmm, naw. It seemed kinda silly to post your amount of b/p per day in here... encouraging stat whoreism is kinda frowned upon... I mean, if you think about it, you should be helping to help, not just to increase your numbers COU-cyberdevil-GH. Plus this thread was plagued with nothing but daily b/p stats... actually having convo is kinda nice ;)

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At 5/9/08 11:51 AM, NEVR wrote: I think a few more people in the EGB need to start using AIM. Last night we had an EGB chatroom going on AIM with EagleRock, PossiblePancakes, BlueHippo (at one point), and myself. It's great to get to know other EGB members, too.

So, if you wanna get on AIM and join in the fun, go here to get a Screen name, and go here to download AIM.

I got AIM but...not many newgrounders have me added. It's NGDarkSoldier of if any of you are interested.

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At 5/9/08 11:51 AM, NEVR wrote: I think a few more people in the EGB need to start using AIM. Last night we had an EGB chatroom going on AIM with EagleRock, PossiblePancakes, BlueHippo (at one point), and myself. It's great to get to know other EGB members, too.

So, if you wanna get on AIM and join in the fun, go here to get a Screen name, and go here to download AIM.

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Oh yeah? I try to use yahoo, but I didn't know yall did the aim thing. I might still have an account. Anywayz Did you see
Wade's thread about the cheating on the awards. Isn't that crazy? I didn't even know it got that bad. Its good we got that new portal crew? Anyone here on it?
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At 5/9/08 06:13 PM, Pinoyguy75 wrote: Anywayz Did you see Wade's thread about the cheating on the awards. Isn't that crazy? I didn't even know it got that bad.

I think the whole e-drama that happened in that thread is dying down now. The whole thing got too out of hand.

Its good we got that new portal crew? Anyone here on it?

PossiblePancakes, FBIpolux, and myself are the only EGB members on it that I know of.

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At 5/9/08 06:21 PM, NEVR wrote: PossiblePancakes, FBIpolux, and myself are the only EGB members on it that I know of.

Hehehe... You're forgetting just one more person. ;)

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At 5/9/08 06:30 PM, Seamonky wrote:
At 5/9/08 06:21 PM, NEVR wrote: PossiblePancakes, FBIpolux, and myself are the only EGB members on it that I know of.
Hehehe... You're forgetting just one more person. ;)

Jeez...another one?? Go Barracks members! Now I'm starting to get a bit jealous...

BTW, as far as AIM goes, in case you guys are too lazy to click my profile, my AIM SN is EagleRock1337. I am also on EagleRock14p70p (yes, I know, I made these hax0r jargon screen names years ago when it wasn't completely un-cool). Tonight I'll be on EagleRock1337, so feel free to IM me and we'll start up another chat room. I'm sure that once I get my server fully loaded, I'll be able to find a more permanent solution to our chatting needs. Like I said, Ventrillo is easy to set up, but I also am preferring another solution for those that don't have microphones. In the meantime, let's just keep setting up the impromptu AIM chats and just inviting everyone up.

I also encourage everyone sharing screen names with everyone in general, as it helps the camraderie between Barracks members and will also help us stay informed. Our Portal Guard members will obviously benefit from having all of the Barracks' eyes on the Portal, and a quick way to notify each other. This way, we can keep on our toes and watch for those malicious flash. Sure enough, I still see stolen flash on the Portal every day, and keepign each other informed will help us along.

And since I'm in the mood, let's go for a

DEFCON Update:

In case anyone didn't notice, the Portal isn't active today. I'm actually reducing the DEFCON to DEFCON 5. Normally I wouldn't reduce the DEFCON all the way, but having ZERO UJ flash tends to help that along.

By the way, does everyone remember the DEFCON system? I have posted the DEFCON system description pages and pages ago here, but I probably should post it in the FAQ section of the forums. I'll get to that tonight to make your lives easier.

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Is that why submissons got delted so fast the other day ,there was one called Wade something or other. Cant remember the name it was insulting i blammed it ,i looked into the obituaries and his account had been delted. That was quick well i been writing some revies, now for rqc i did not do them all as there is to many.


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At 5/9/08 06:39 PM, EagleRock wrote: By the way, does everyone remember the DEFCON system? I have posted the DEFCON system description pages and pages ago here, but I probably should post it in the FAQ section of the forums. I'll get to that tonight to make your lives easier.

No I don't remember it at all... sorry. But I'll check if my aim is still active, if not I'll get a new one. I'll update yall on it.


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Ok sorry about the double post, but my aim is still active and its tHe RtV and yeah... its the name I use when I game and stuff... don't ask me what it means just refer to Naughty by Nautre's O.P.P. to get why I like this nickname... feel free to add me and chat with me. LoL
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At 5/9/08 06:47 PM, phantomlassuk wrote: Is that why submissons got delted so fast the other day ,there was one called Wade something or other. Cant remember the name it was insulting i blammed it ,i looked into the obituaries and his account had been delted. That was quick well i been writing some revies, now for rqc i did not do them all as there is to many.

Here's what happened, Wade and others made a huge crackdown when they discovered the spammers marketing saveroids to users who would vote everything up as they please. When something like this happened, something must be done and it resulted in a huge mess.

The blam count is in the bottom corner.


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At 5/9/08 07:15 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote:
At 5/9/08 06:47 PM, phantomlassuk wrote:

happened, something must be done and it resulted in a huge mess.


The blam count is in the bottom corner.

Ok thanks i just worried i checked my posts ,and i only got up till 8 may. I posted on a thread in general where someone, posted a video to youtube he says he could get banned for it. Is this why i cant see my recent posts help.


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You're not the only one, same happened to everyone as well.

The search bar also got messed up.


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In case you guys are wondering, the dude shot in the face at the end of the video is Fleek.


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Sorry EagleRock and PossiblePancakes for leaving without saying goodbye!

I forgot that if i put my status on away it would close the chat room.

Sorry guys :(

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At 5/9/08 06:39 PM, EagleRock wrote: Some stuff about AIM.

Gee guys, I'd love to chat.
Unfortunately I've only got an MSN right now, add me if you want.

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At 5/10/08 12:18 AM, DarkSoldier wrote: Level 23!

Congrats on the level up!


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At 5/10/08 12:18 AM, DarkSoldier wrote: Sorry EagleRock and PossiblePancakes for leaving without saying goodbye!

I forgot that if i put my status on away it would close the chat room.

Sorry guys :(

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Grats on your new level!

Anyway, seeing how it's 4AM and I need to get to bed, let me leave you off with the work I've done so far tonight. Since I've been gone for a while and the work I've done on organizing the Barracks is lost every time I come back, I've taken the time to document a lot of what I've done. Note that none of this is really new, as the positions have pretty much existed since the first couple of months of the Barracks' inception.

Here are a few forum links you want to read:

DEFCON Guide - A lot of you don't even know what the hell the DEFCON system is, so here you have it, in easy-to-read form!

Barracks Officer Guide - Since plenty of us tend to go inactive at inopportune times, its important that everyone knows all the positions that exist and what they're responsible for. Again, nothing really has changed here, as these positions have existed since the beginning. However, I have updated and tweaked the roles/reponsibilities in light of the Portal's current state.

That last post naturally leads to the Barracks Officer List...Let's know who's actually our officers! Basically I only recorded down the current roster for now, as we are long-overdue for a "corporate shuffle." We need some new officers and new blood running the Barracks, which I'll be facilitating over the next few days. To those of you interested, just remember that the people I appoint already fit the role they're assigned to, so I don't really do much grooming for roles around here. However, that being said, I always like to give the opportunity for the more eager members to take up a role if they're ready for the job.

Also, it's important for me to note that I've officially appointed Lt. General Joshiwa as our Lieutenant Barracks Records Officer! Joshiwa is now helping out Brigadier General NEVR with the roster, so he deserves the title that goes with the responsibility! Grats!

Aaaaand lastly, I leave you off with a:

DEFCON Update:

The Portal sped up a bit since before, as the churn has gone up a bit and there are at least a few UJ flash now. I'm increasing the DEFCON to DEFCON 4 for the rest of the night. Hopefully Saturday will show us strong Portal activity and a chance to flex our muscles!

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At 5/10/08 04:04 AM, EagleRock wrote:
At 5/10/08 12:18 AM, DarkSoldier wrote: Sorry EagleRock and PossiblePancakes for leaving without saying goodbye!

I forgot that if i put my status on away it would close the chat room.

Sorry guys :(

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Same.

Here are a few forum links you want to read:

DEFCON Guide - A lot of you don't even know what the hell the DEFCON system is, so here you have it, in easy-to-read form!

I remember the DEFCON system. I hardly remember it being used in the Barracks, something we should be more aware about.

Barracks Officer Guide - Since plenty of us tend to go inactive at inopportune times, its important that everyone knows all the positions that exist and what they're responsible for. Again, nothing really has changed here, as these positions have existed since the beginning. However, I have updated and tweaked the roles/reponsibilities in light of the Portal's current state.

Yeah I've been inactive for awhile now, just recently came back a week ago. I don't plan on leaving again any time soon, but I completely understand if my role as Advancement Officer is given to someone else who has been hanging around here for awhile now. Looks like those Operation Officers are inactive. Those roles are in need for some changes.

That last post naturally leads to the Barracks Officer List...Let's know who's actually our officers! Basically I only recorded down the current roster for now, as we are long-overdue for a "corporate shuffle." We need some new officers and new blood running the Barracks, which I'll be facilitating over the next few days. To those of you interested, just remember that the people I appoint already fit the role they're assigned to, so I don't really do much grooming for roles around here. However, that being said, I always like to give the opportunity for the more eager members to take up a role if they're ready for the job.

I agree with some the idea of more active members becoming Officers. As I recall you did make good decisions in the last Officer enrollment. Not just choosing active users, but people who had some experience with the role they were going to be assigned. I'm sure you will do the same again.


Also, it's important for me to note that I've officially appointed Lt. General Joshiwa as our Lieutenant Barracks Records Officer! Joshiwa is now helping out Brigadier General NEVR with the roster, so he deserves the title that goes with the responsibility! Grats!

Congratulations Joshiwa! I'm sure you and NEVR will do a fabulous job on our rosters.

Aaaaand lastly, I leave you off with a:

DEFCON Update:

The Portal sped up a bit since before, as the churn has gone up a bit and there are at least a few UJ flash now. I'm increasing the DEFCON to DEFCON 4 for the rest of the night. Hopefully Saturday will show us strong Portal activity and a chance to flex our muscles!

It seems to have slowed down again at the moment. It's probably because of the time of night (very late!) so I'm sure it will pick up.

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EagleRock,

I'm quite interested in the NGPD Liason position, listed as inactive.

I started the roster for the NGPD and also wrote a theme for them, so I thought I'd apply.

Thanks.


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At 5/10/08 04:04 AM, EagleRock wrote: Here are a few forum links you want to read:

DEFCON Guide
Barracks Officer Guide
Barracks Officer List

Everyone should read these through, especially if you're not sure about any of these aspects of the Barracks. If you have any questions, you can always ask EagleRock, or any other officer. :)

All looks great, sir. Like you said though, you DID go to grad school ;P

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At 5/10/08 04:04 AM, EagleRock wrote:
At 5/10/08 12:18 AM, DarkSoldier wrote: Sorry EagleRock and PossiblePancakes for leaving without saying goodbye!

I forgot that if i put my status on away it would close the chat room.

Sorry guys :(

Level 23!
Grats on your new level!

Anyway, seeing how it's 4AM and I need to get to bed, let me leave you off with the work I've done so far tonight. Since I've been gone for a while and the work I've done on organizing the Barracks is lost every time I come back, I've taken the time to document a lot of what I've done. Note that none of this is really new, as the positions have pretty much existed since the first couple of months of the Barracks' inception.

Here are a few forum links you want to read:

DEFCON Guide - A lot of you don't even know what the hell the DEFCON system is, so here you have it, in easy-to-read form!

Barracks Officer Guide - Since plenty of us tend to go inactive at inopportune times, its important that everyone knows all the positions that exist and what they're responsible for. Again, nothing really has changed here, as these positions have existed since the beginning. However, I have updated and tweaked the roles/reponsibilities in light of the Portal's current state.

That last post naturally leads to the Barracks Officer List...Let's know who's actually our officers! Basically I only recorded down the current roster for now, as we are long-overdue for a "corporate shuffle." We need some new officers and new blood running the Barracks, which I'll be facilitating over the next few days. To those of you interested, just remember that the people I appoint already fit the role they're assigned to, so I don't really do much grooming for roles around here. However, that being said, I always like to give the opportunity for the more eager members to take up a role if they're ready for the job.

Also, it's important for me to note that I've officially appointed Lt. General Joshiwa as our Lieutenant Barracks Records Officer! Joshiwa is now helping out Brigadier General NEVR with the roster, so he deserves the title that goes with the responsibility! Grats!

Aaaaand lastly, I leave you off with a:

DEFCON Update:

The Portal sped up a bit since before, as the churn has gone up a bit and there are at least a few UJ flash now. I'm increasing the DEFCON to DEFCON 4 for the rest of the night. Hopefully Saturday will show us strong Portal activity and a chance to flex our muscles!

*salutes*

Awesonme Thanks Eagle Rock *Salute*

Due to your inactivivy (no offense) no one around here used the DEFCON levels in your absence, so I had no idea what they meant. Thank you for clearing everything up! Also I've noticed that the discipline, activity, and post quality in the NGPD has taken a dramatic turn for the worst. Talking about nothing, tons of one liners, and other unacceptable behavior is rampant. I believe in TailsPrower, he is a great leader, although he can be a little lax at times, It is my belief that if some one high ranking in the barracks (such as yourself) would make an appearance and let them know what the expectations for a good barracks member are, then they might shape up a bit.

DBlach out

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As usual, Eagles does a great job organizing things. He's sorting out stuff again, which really makes the Barracks seem a lot more professional. Now, before you read further on this post, I'm telling you I have no problem with any of the members in Barracks right now.

I was just reading through the new NGPD thread, and the first post Tails explained their recruitment and membership steps. I really think the EGB should adopt something a little more similar. Yes, I'm aware we do background checks and such, but I'm wondering if the EGB would benefit more from a stricter membership course.

What are your thoughts on this?

I do think we have a good recruitment process, but I was wondering about our members' points of view on this matter.
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At 5/10/08 11:02 AM, DBlach wrote: Due to your inactivivy (no offense) no one around here used the DEFCON levels in your absence, so I had no idea what they meant.

Actually, the DEFCON levels have been used during EagleRock's absence, but they were mostly decided by Slash, and once he became slightly less active, there was nobody to raise or lower it.

At 5/10/08 12:19 PM, PossiblePancakes wrote: I was just reading through the new NGPD thread, and the first post Tails explained their recruitment and membership steps. I really think the EGB should adopt something a little more similar. Yes, I'm aware we do background checks and such, but I'm wondering if the EGB would benefit more from a stricter membership course.

What are your thoughts on this?

Personally I don't think that the NGPD's week-long trial does a whole lot for weeding out good members from potentially bad ones. They don't do extensive background checks, but often just take the members at face value - just checking their stats and most recent posts, etc.

I think that our current recruitment procedures are good, although the discussion period could stand to last a bit longer. As it is, it's only approximately 24 hours, so a lot of members don't actually get a say on the new member whilst they're under discussion. I'd suggest extending the validation period to something along the lines of 48 hours - it's a bit longer for the recruit to wait, yes, but it gives more people the chance to go have their say.

Speaking of which, I'd like to see more members getting involved in the discussion and background checks on new recruits. For the most part, it's often the same handful of members taking part in the recruit discussion threads over in our private forums, so it's down to you guys to get involved and have a say in things. If you don't take action then you only have yourselves to blame when you feel left-out. We offer you all the opportunity.

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At 5/10/08 04:36 AM, Hemlok wrote: I remember the DEFCON system. I hardly remember it being used in the Barracks, something we should be more aware about.

There's a reason: I've never been around... :-/ Generally I'm the only one that did the DEFCON system, so I think it's time to make things a bit more official. If people feel the DEFCON really needs to be changed, and I'm not around, it follows the chain of command down from me to the 2IC, then the 3IC. If none of the three are on, then it defaults to the Portal Ops. If the Portal Ops isn't on, it finally goes to a consensus of all online officers. I updated the DEFCON guide and the Officer Guide to reflect this.

Even my own friggin officers haven't seen the DEFCON...jeez... :-)

Yeah I've been inactive for awhile now, just recently came back a week ago. I don't plan on leaving again any time soon, but I completely understand if my role as Advancement Officer is given to someone else who has been hanging around here for awhile now. Looks like those Operation Officers are inactive. Those roles are in need for some changes.

Well, I tend toward keeping an officer in position rather than swapping them out at the first chance. Since you've returned and plan on staying active, I don't plan on changing you out anytime soon. Only those officers that don't really post anymore (and don't seem to have intentions to do so) really will get swapped out. I try to be fair in that regard and not penalize people for actually having lives. :-)

I agree with some the idea of more active members becoming Officers. As I recall you did make good decisions in the last Officer enrollment. Not just choosing active users, but people who had some experience with the role they were going to be assigned. I'm sure you will do the same again.

Your vote of confidence is encouraging :-)

Congratulations Joshiwa! I'm sure you and NEVR will do a fabulous job on our rosters.

From the conversations we had last night, I trust fully that they will.

At 5/10/08 05:35 AM, TheNossinator wrote: EagleRock,

I'm quite interested in the NGPD Liason position, listed as inactive.

I started the roster for the NGPD and also wrote a theme for them, so I thought I'd apply.

Thanks.

While I'm generally not the biggest fan of self-nominees, I do have to say you sound right for the position. I will be keeping my nominees in the air as I feel out who is right for the roles. I like to get feedback from all my members on who they feel should be in what position. As with all the other positions, I'll be feeling things out first before I make any final decisions.

At 5/10/08 10:32 AM, NEVR wrote: Everyone should read these through, especially if you're not sure about any of these aspects of the Barracks. If you have any questions, you can always ask EagleRock, or any other officer. :)

All looks great, sir. Like you said though, you DID go to grad school ;P

Yeah, go figure. Six years of grad school so I can type up stuff for the Internet. :-)

At 5/10/08 11:02 AM, DBlach wrote: Due to your inactivivy (no offense) no one around here used the DEFCON levels in your absence, so I had no idea what they meant. Thank you for clearing everything up!

None taken. I know I'm inactive, and I never claim to not be. :-/ And yes, that is the exact reason why noone knows about the DEFCON...it is ultimately all my fault. That's why I've make it more clear who is in charge of the DEFCON, what it is, and all that jazz for when I'm not around. That way THIS time, it won't get lost in the mix.

Also I've noticed that the discipline, activity, and post quality in the NGPD has taken a dramatic turn for the worst. Talking about nothing, tons of one liners, and other unacceptable behavior is rampant. I believe in TailsPrower, he is a great leader, although he can be a little lax at times, It is my belief that if some one high ranking in the barracks (such as yourself) would make an appearance and let them know what the expectations for a good barracks member are, then they might shape up a bit.

I appreciate your concerns for the NGPD, and I like your suggestions. However, they really don't fall into my rhetoric, and I'll tell you exactly why. When the NGPD was created, it was created specifically to differentiate the Police Officer ranks and the Elite Guard ranks. They always were their own club, and were never part of our own. While I agree that it's a good idea to have more official Barracks face time in the NGPD (via Laisons), I don't necessarily agree with strolling in and saying what we expect from them. I do have a deep respect for TailsPrower and the way he runs things, as he has done the most for the NGPD than I would imagine anyone else. I'd say by now, he's even passed Peregrinus' contributions there. Since doing that would really be trying to usurp his power and acting like we're better than the NGPD, I really don't want to roll on in and tell everyone how they should act, as it is unfair to him, and I certainly would not like him to do the same.

That being said, it was a good suggestion, and I do like the way you think. :-)

At 5/10/08 12:19 PM, PossiblePancakes wrote: What are your thoughts on this?

Again, more great suggestions. I think that their recruitment system is a bit more formal than I'd like ours to be, but it does bring up a good point. Traditionally our recruitment system was Slash or I would review the person, post history, flash, reviews, etc. and feel out the person. However, if both of us are inactive, it kinda falls apart. I'm not saying that our recruitment system is bad, it just needs to be more robust, and has more people involved. This way, if neither of us are posting for some time, we don't just let everything fall apart.

At 5/10/08 12:46 PM, NEVR wrote: Actually, the DEFCON levels have been used during EagleRock's absence, but they were mostly decided by Slash, and once he became slightly less active, there was nobody to raise or lower it.

I did notice him doing some DEFCON updates too here and there. Either way, now the system is a bit more transparent how it works, so noone will be confused.

Personally I don't think that the NGPD's week-long trial does a whole lot for weeding out good members from potentially bad ones. They don't do extensive background checks, but often just take the members at face value - just checking their stats and most recent posts, etc.

I agree. Trial periods aren't usually the way I did things. If they were not good for the role, I said no. if they were, and needed to shape up a bit, I told them to shape up and apply again. However, since noone is really disallowed to post here (with some exceptions), they can post here if they really want to, which makes for an informal "apprenticeship." However, if you're in, you're in, and if you're out, you're out.

I think that our current recruitment procedures are good, although the discussion period could stand to last a bit longer. As it is, it's only approximately 24 hours, so a lot of members don't actually get a say on the new member whilst they're under discussion. I'd suggest extending the validation period to something along the lines of 48 hours - it's a bit longer for the recruit to wait, yes, but it gives more people the chance to go have their say.

Speaking of which, I'd like to see more members getting involved in the discussion and background checks on new recruits.

I agree. Like I said, it'll take me a bit of time to think about how this will work, but I do want more people involved in recruiting. However, if we know the person is good for the job, I don't like the idea of making the person wait for the sake of waiting.

Wow, long post...

OK, I'm done here. I'm going to be out for the day (my mother's birthday), but I'll be back later. I'd like to hear more discussions like this and nominees for the various roles that need to be filled.

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At 5/10/08 01:09 PM, EagleRock wrote: While I'm generally not the biggest fan of self-nominees, I do have to say you sound right for the position. I will be keeping my nominees in the air as I feel out who is right for the roles. I like to get feedback from all my members on who they feel should be in what position. As with all the other positions, I'll be feeling things out first before I make any final decisions.

Hey, remember, I'm still here, even if you ignore me or think I'm not around, I'm watching. Heheh, the only time I'm not is when I'm eating or sleeping. Don't think about replacing me yet cause I'm back! (And extremely bored cause it's almost summer) Only problem is, I still have 3 MCT2 exams to take, which could hold me back a bit, but I doubt that anything will come up in the future that is big enough to rip the PD and the Barracks apart.

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At 5/10/08 01:09 PM, EagleRock wrote:
At 5/10/08 11:02 AM, DBlach wrote: Due to your inactivivy (no offense) no one around here used the DEFCON levels in your absence, so I had no idea what they meant. Thank you for clearing everything up!
None taken. I know I'm inactive, and I never claim to not be. :-/ And yes, that is the exact reason why noone knows about the DEFCON...it is ultimately all my fault. That's why I've make it more clear who is in charge of the DEFCON, what it is, and all that jazz for when I'm not around. That way THIS time, it won't get lost in the mix.

Right thanks for the updated it's really helpful to newer members such as myself (although i'm not really a member yet due to pending whistle status) and i'm glad you're trying to get back here more often. It gives the barracks a more professional feel.

Also I've noticed that the discipline, activity, and post quality in the NGPD has taken a dramatic turn for the worst. Talking about nothing, tons of one liners, and other unacceptable behavior is rampant. I believe in TailsPrower, he is a great leader, although he can be a little lax at times, It is my belief that if some one high ranking in the barracks (such as yourself) would make an appearance and let them know what the expectations for a good barracks member are, then they might shape up a bit.
I appreciate your concerns for the NGPD, and I like your suggestions. However, they really don't fall into my rhetoric, and I'll tell you exactly why. When the NGPD was created, it was created specifically to differentiate the Police Officer ranks and the Elite Guard ranks. They always were their own club, and were never part of our own. While I agree that it's a good idea to have more official Barracks face time in the NGPD (via Laisons), I don't necessarily agree with strolling in and saying what we expect from them. I do have a deep respect for TailsPrower and the way he runs things, as he has done the most for the NGPD than I would imagine anyone else. I'd say by now, he's even passed Peregrinus' contributions there. Since doing that would really be trying to usurp his power and acting like we're better than the NGPD, I really don't want to roll on in and tell everyone how they should act, as it is unfair to him, and I certainly would not like him to do the same.

That being said, it was a good suggestion, and I do like the way you think. :-)

I agree with you completely :) I don't view it as much as telling them what to do and how to behave, but more to alert them of what is expected, tolerated, or not tolerated in the barracks, becuase i hope most of them plan on graduating into our ranks. I do also view Tails as an inspiring and competent CO as it were, hopefully someday he will decide to pass the torch and join our ranks as well!

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