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At 9/23/09 01:48 PM, Fro wrote: It is a shame though because if your going to work on something that has that much in it then you'd expect people to watch it first.

Personally, I believe Newgrounds needs to make people Open the flash before the voting panel clears, like it used to be, then some people won't "speed B/P" maybe lose a few minutes, but submissions will pass with their right score.

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*ludicrous salute*

Oh my god, that salute just went plaid!

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At 9/23/09 01:48 PM, Fro wrote: I can add that people vote primarily on file size. I submitted a 18 MB flash one time and got well over a 3.50, but not too much later I submitted a much better quality submission, which was only 11 MB and it passed with a 3.20 even though it was much better.

It is a shame though because if your going to work on something that has that much in it then you'd expect people to watch it first.

It is a shame. Of course, most people do that because anything over a certain size needs to have approval from the admins to submit. When that's the case, people go "OMG TOM SAID ITS OK GIVE IT 5 LOL" But even the smaller sizes that are within posting limits (like that 9.7MB blank flash) are upvoted just due to size. It's sad. People don't want to wait for the damn thing to load, and just assume it's good because it's large.

*sigh*

At 9/23/09 02:43 PM, Phantom wrote: Personally, I believe Newgrounds needs to make people Open the flash before the voting panel clears, like it used to be, then some people won't "speed B/P" maybe lose a few minutes, but submissions will pass with their right score.

Yeah. It's kinda ridiculous. People will still find ways around it, though. Anything for a point.

At 9/23/09 01:47 PM, EagleRock wrote:
*ludicrous salute*

Oh my god, that salute just went plaid!

My salute had a nice, witty response to that, but it overshot the thread by a week and a half...

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At 9/23/09 02:28 AM, SlashFirestorm wrote: It is September 23, and the bi-annual EGB rollcall has begun.

Umm... is now a bad time to ask to join here? I mean, I'd like to, but if it's going to cause an administrative problem with anything going on right now I can wait a while.

If not, may I join?


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At 9/23/09 06:37 PM, Sheizenhammer wrote: Umm... is now a bad time to ask to join here? I mean, I'd like to, but if it's going to cause an administrative problem with anything going on right now I can wait a while.

No, anytime is a good time to join the EGB! Now that i see you have ranked up to privite and now have 2,500 b/p points and you have a delty whistle. You meet all of the requirements for this group.

If not, may I join?

It's not that easy, Slash will pos the rules and if you can follow them :::say yes:::: And then we will vote on you to see if we will accept you into the EGB. This should only take a few days.

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At 9/23/09 06:37 PM, Sheizenhammer wrote:
At 9/23/09 02:28 AM, SlashFirestorm wrote: It is September 23, and the bi-annual EGB rollcall has begun.
Umm... is now a bad time to ask to join here? I mean, I'd like to, but if it's going to cause an administrative problem with anything going on right now I can wait a while.

If not, may I join?

Well, Slash is the one that normally handles this stuff, as he's currently the Commander and the Recruitment Officer, but he's been busy lately and not too much on NG, so I'll get the formalities started and the ball rolling here for when he returns. I'll give you the usual procedure and get the recruitment process started. I don't see why we shouldn't be able to handle a new member during the Barracks restructuring and roll call.

First, I will present you with the shortened code of conduct for the Barracks, along with links to the relevant FAQ's on our forums. You must read them, understand them, and post here again confirming that you accept those principles. A simple "yes, I agree" will be sufficient. This process serves two purposes:

1) Ensuring that you're not a "drive-by applicant" who asks to join and then never comes back, and

2) Ensuring that you know how we operate so there won't be any complications in the future, such as "wait, we're not supposed to be mass voting?".

After you agree to the code of conduct, the Barracks community will discuss your qualifications and decide whether to allow you into the group. Our requirements aren't too strict; beyond the main qualifications of 2500+ B/P and a Bronze Whistle or better, we'll be looking for sufficient post quality (low number of one-liners, intelligent posts that contribute to the topic), helpful reviews, any potentially problematic flashes, stuff like that. After discussion and a vote, I'll make the final call and PM you with the results. Assuming that no objections are raised, the process usually takes a day or two.

Here is our abbreviated Code of Conduct. Read it, learn it, and post again with confirmation of your understanding. If you can't abide by these principles, say so.

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1. Voting fairly.

This is the foundation of the Elite Guard Barracks. All members are expected to give every flash a fair vote, regardless of who made it or what their group affiliations are. We do not target any flash group, not favorably or in opposition; our only enemies are those who break the rules of the site, not those who merely bend them.

Everyone has a different definition of quality, and all members are expected to vote based on what they honestly feel a flash deserves, not on whether they think the flash will pass or be blammed. While Barracks members are proud of their high ranks, and are eager to compete with others, a high B/P score means nothing if achieved through petty point-whore voting, and any member who admits to doing so will be removed from the organization.

2. Stopping Portal abuse.

Numerous stolen, malicious, and unsuitable flash are submitted to the Flash Portal every day, and it is our job to ensure that as many of them are removed as possible. Members are expected to report any suspicious flash to the Barracks, including any evidence or doubts that they might have, and only whistle something if they are sure, beyond a reasonable doubt, that it is whistle-worthy.

Just as with B/P, points mean nothing if achieved through inappropriate means. There should be no blind rush to whistle a flash that is merely suspected of wrongdoing; it's better to let an uncertain case go by rather than wrongly whistle an innocent submission. If evidence of wrongdoing is discovered after a flash passes judgment, we can always (and will always) inform Wade of our findings.

In the case of a beyond-reasonable-doubt rulebreaking flash, members are encouraged to share their results with the Newgrounds Police Department and the Newgrounds Department of Defense.

3. Cleaning up the review system.

Members are expected to be familiar with the review guidelines and whistle abusive reviews when they come across them, and report severe cases of abuse to a review mod. Additionally, members are expected to write helpful reviews, offering constructive criticism and remaining civil even when the author refuses to do so. We must set a good example for other Newgrounders, in hopes that they will improve their own reviews as well.

4. Setting an example for others to follow.

Barracks members are expected to post intelligently, contributing to threads rather than merely dropping a one-liner opinion on it. Flaming, spamming, and other ban-worthy behavior is strictly prohibited, and extreme misbehavior will lead to removal from the EGB.

Members are also expected to act civilly towards all Newgrounders. You are expected to be helpful and patient when dealing with newer members, whether simply showing them the FAQ or explaining more complex concepts that they do not understand. Concepts such as fair voting, intelligent posting/reviewing, and keeping an open mind are essential for newer members to learn, and we are just the ones to teach them.

For those with more experience, you are expected to show respect and understand that they may, in fact, know more about Newgrounds than you do, even if you're a seasoned veteran. This applies both to fellow Barracks members and Newgrounders in the general population.

Members are expected to put reasonable effort into any flash or audio submissions, and be careful with who they become Portal Buddies with. We are quite generous with our definition of reasonable effort; examples of unacceptable submissions would be static images, single frames, ridiculously small loops, or purposefully bad music. Anyone submitting rulebreaking content would, obviously, be removed from the Barracks and reported to Wade.

5. Not starting shit.

As mentioned above, the Barracks has no enemies beyond those who break the rules of the site. Our roster has included current and former members of various flash groups, including the Clock Crew, Barney Bunch, and Kitty Krew, and we are open to anyone willing to follow our principles. Barracks members are expected to be civil to others and not start fights, and anyone found to be starting shit with anyone, even if they deserve it, will be removed. You are representing the Barracks with your actions, and if your actions do not reflect our principles, you will not be a part of the organization.

6. Remaining active with the group.

Barracks members are expected to remain reasonably active in the thread, as well as with their duties. Those who are inactive for long periods (months) may be removed from the roster at any time, and rollcalls are occasionally sent out to all members to determine who is active. Members who expect to be inactive for some time due to IRL reasons (such as school, employment, vacation, etc) should inform the Barracks in advance.

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In addition to the above, please examine the following materials.

The Barracks Manifesto
The Barracks FAQ

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At 9/23/09 06:36 PM, EagleRock wrote:
At 9/23/09 02:43 PM, Phantom wrote:
At 9/23/09 01:47 PM, EagleRock wrote:
*ludicrous salute*

Oh my god, that salute just went plaid!
My salute had a nice, witty response to that, but it overshot the thread by a week and a half...

Yea, because Phantom and I were only going Hyperactive at that time. I guess Slash gets the mashed in helmet now. lmao. I know this is our of order, but who's gonna "jam" the radar?

/silliness. Just wanted to have a little fun.

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At 9/23/09 07:21 PM, EagleRock wrote: (FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT QUOTE THIS WHOLE GIANT THING)

Okay.

And yes, I can agree to all that (makes sense to me). I accept the rules here.


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At 9/23/09 07:44 PM, Sheizenhammer wrote:
At 9/23/09 07:21 PM, EagleRock wrote: (FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT QUOTE THIS WHOLE GIANT THING)
Okay.

And yes, I can agree to all that (makes sense to me). I accept the rules here.

Awesome. :-)

Okay, I've set up the discussion thread in the EGB private forums, and the members will deliberate on your submission. Again, since I'm only temporarily subbing for Slash, I'm sure he'll be the one to PM you once deliberations are complete. As idiotbuster already said, it won't take more than a day or two.

Thanks!

To the EGB members, the recruitment thread is here: Click me. Please participate!

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I have a question, which event should I use to cover with my next intermission chapter? Duke faking his girlfriend on EGB or DD torturing Mighty-Potato?


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OH I GOTTA HEAR THE FULL SCOOP ON DUKE!! I got most of it from Eagle over AIM, but hearing it from your perspective will be much more hilarious. The DD can come later because they suck.

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At 9/23/09 08:35 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote: I have a question, which event should I use to cover with my next intermission chapter? Duke faking his girlfriend on EGB or DD torturing Mighty-Potato?

What do you think?

Just in case, PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE the DoD story... :-P
At 9/23/09 08:38 PM, SlntCobra1 wrote: OH I GOTTA HEAR THE FULL SCOOP ON DUKE!! I got most of it from Eagle over AIM, but hearing it from your perspective will be much more hilarious. The DD can come later because they suck.

I didn't even give you whole thing, really...I'll give you a better scoop over AIM...but I'd love to see DoD stories! He certainly was fun to write into the BUF story... :-)

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At 9/23/09 09:11 PM, EagleRock wrote:
At 9/23/09 08:38 PM, SlntCobra1 wrote: OH I GOTTA HEAR THE FULL SCOOP ON DUKE!! I got most of it from Eagle over AIM, but hearing it from your perspective will be much more hilarious. The DD can come later because they suck.
I didn't even give you whole thing, really...I'll give you a better scoop over AIM...but I'd love to see DoD stories! He certainly was fun to write into the BUF story... :-)

Hey, why leave me out of the party? I would like to hear about DoD as well. I was just starting out here when he did these things in this thread. I like idiot-finders writing alot, i would like to see both stories from you. But DoD first and then your take on the DD hackings.

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I wasn't really around for Dream of Duke's asshole months. It might have been one of my extended absences, or I joined the EGB and NGDD right after he freaked out.

But from what I remember everyone talking about, he would be awesome to have in BUF. Hell, he could somehow survive for a really long time and piss everyone off until he gets killed by some one in the Barracks.

Or he could be a spy and working for Wade


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Thanks SlashFirestorm got your PM and its nice to see EagleRock again here active. Well I quite enjoyed Madness Day I'm not a massive Krinkles fan, but I do like to Hank beating the crap out of people. Some good submissions. Not Clock Day but I noticed from my short time quality rather then spam shame, I was to tried to get more b/p. I only got 10 saves how was everyones b/p on Madness day? I was shocked to see NGPD get locked by EyeLovePoozy but they did get many warnings this year from Malachy. Looking at the last page there were lots of one liners, still a shame hopefully it wont be for to long the lock.

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At 9/23/09 09:26 PM, idiot-buster wrote: Hey, why leave me out of the party? I would like to hear about DoD as well. I was just starting out here when he did these things in this thread. I like idiot-finders writing alot, i would like to see both stories from you. But DoD first and then your take on the DD hackings.

All right all right...

Here's where the whole story came out in the EGB thread. Start with Peregrinus' "Oh snap" link and then start reading the Barracks thread from there. I start pulling it out of him (acting as hot-and-charming) and he finally confesses on something like page 288.

At 9/23/09 09:50 PM, TheThing wrote: But from what I remember everyone talking about, he would be awesome to have in BUF. Hell, he could somehow survive for a really long time and piss everyone off until he gets killed by some one in the Barracks.

Actually, he was in the story already. he appears in Chapter 5... I'll let you re-read it for ultimate enjoyment. :-)

At 9/23/09 10:00 PM, phantomlassuk wrote: Thanks SlashFirestorm got your PM and its nice to see EagleRock again here active. Well I quite enjoyed Madness Day I'm not a massive Krinkles fan, but I do like to Hank beating the crap out of people. Some good submissions. Not Clock Day but I noticed from my short time quality rather then spam shame, I was to tried to get more b/p. I only got 10 saves how was everyones b/p on Madness day? I was shocked to see NGPD get locked by EyeLovePoozy but they did get many warnings this year from Malachy. Looking at the last page there were lots of one liners, still a shame hopefully it wont be for to long the lock.

I'm glad to be around the Barracks again... :-) ...but Madness Day was great. It's sure as hell better than some other Days where you get nothing but insta-5'd one-frame flashes *massive eye roll*

As far as B/P goes, I got around 100 B/P, 80 of them saves. But Madness Day brought a lot of hard work and effort to the Portal, and a decent bulk of the flash deserved to be protected. In a way, I enjoyed it since
people didin't just ride on it being a "day" to get their flash submitted, and they really made some good Madness tributes...

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So today, I woke up and after a funny and ridiculous text message conversation, I left home at about 10AM, and I got back at 23 (an hour ago). That means, I spent more than twelve hours of this day programming that sumo bot in the Engineering University (which I had never been to before) but it was damn awesome. It was a great experience, I met a lot of interesting people and I even got an official T-shirt which looks cool.

At 9/22/09 08:35 PM, TheThing wrote: Turns out digging it up and reposting took less time then I thought.

Here it is, The Arrest! In all it's terrible, terrible glory.
At 9/22/09 10:02 PM, PossiblePancakes wrote:
At 9/22/09 05:13 PM, Ismael92 wrote: Also, I'm loving both EGB stories, I wish there were more people writing fan-fiction about the EGB, it's so damn entertaining!
Haha, funny you should mention that. I'm currently writing an EGB fanfic myself. So far I'm on the prologue, but I'd say I'm about 50% done with the first draft. After that, I'll revise it and post it up. Expect it in the next few days.

Oh, more things to catch up on. I'll probably read "The Arrest" tomorrow (as well as the other stories which have new chapters).

At 9/23/09 02:28 AM, SlashFirestorm wrote: It is September 23, and the bi-annual EGB rollcall has begun. I have sent out PM's to every member of the September roster (with the exception of Insanimation and Krev, who have since left the Barracks); I don't believe we've had any new recruits this month. If you did not receive a PM from me, let me know immediately.

Cool, I just and replied to the PM. And about the roster, Lizzardis asked me if he could make next month's roster, and since I've been a bit busy I thought it was a great idea :) So yeah, if everything goes on as planned he'll make the next update.

After the rollcall is over (September 30 is the deadline), the EGB roster will be far more up-to-date and accurate, and then we'll begin the Officer Assessment---going through the current positions, determining if any positions are not currently needed (or if any new positions should be created), and determine if the current officers can/should maintain their posts.

We'll also be straightening up the EGB forums to ease access and procedure, as well as making it far more clear who is responsible for what in regards to reporting rulebreaking flash/art/etc..

Again, some interesting updates that I'm looking forward too :)

At 9/23/09 10:09 PM, EagleRock wrote:
At 9/23/09 09:26 PM, idiot-buster wrote: Hey, why leave me out of the party? I would like to hear about DoD as well. I was just starting out here when he did these things in this thread. I like idiot-finders writing alot, i would like to see both stories from you. But DoD first and then your take on the DD hackings.
All right all right...

Here's where the whole story came out in the EGB thread. Start with Peregrinus' "Oh snap" link and then start reading the Barracks thread from there. I start pulling it out of him (acting as hot-and-charming) and he finally confesses on something like page 288.

Thanks a lot, I also missed this stuff that apparently everyone enjoyed. I'll also read that when I have some time :)


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At 9/23/09 11:32 PM, Ismael92 wrote: So today, I woke up and after a funny and ridiculous text message conversation, I left home at about 10AM, and I got back at 23 (an hour ago). That means, I spent more than twelve hours of this day programming that sumo bot in the Engineering University (which I had never been to before) but it was damn awesome. It was a great experience, I met a lot of interesting people and I even got an official T-shirt which looks cool.

You didn't say if your bot won or not... :-)

Thanks a lot, I also missed this stuff that apparently everyone enjoyed. I'll also read that when I have some time :)

Well, I dunno if I could say that everyone enjoyed it, but a good percentage of the Barracks did...

By the way, Chapter 30's been up for a little while already. I had to wait, since I didn't feel like double-posting.

Linky: Barracks Under Fire - Chapter 30

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At 9/23/09 02:28 AM, SlashFirestorm wrote: Also, should the locking of the NGPD be particularly lengthy (or permanent), its members are welcome to join the Barracks as Guardsmen until they reach Private rank and join properly, as long as they abide by our rules.

And so long as they pass selection, surely. Spammy chat, like was the downfall of the NGPD would surely have the same results here.

At 9/23/09 10:00 PM, phantomlassuk wrote: I was shocked to see NGPD get locked by EyeLovePoozy but they did get many warnings this year from Malachy. Looking at the last page there were lots of one liners, still a shame hopefully it wont be for to long the lock.

I wasn't shocked at all - warnings were issued, warnings were ignored. Punishment was levied, which may or may not be rescinded at a later date (I believe the latter).

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At 9/23/09 10:09 PM, EagleRock wrote: Here's where the whole story came out in the EGB thread. Start with Peregrinus' "Oh snap" link and then start reading the Barracks thread from there. I start pulling it out of him (acting as hot-and-charming) and he finally confesses on something like page 288.

Interestingly enough, looking through those pages there were a few posts by Gooch, who originally thought this club was the problem, and one later admitting that it was the NGPD he didn't like. There were references to him being a mod at the time, certainly he bears the golden aura now, but has the NGPD really been on the mods' nerves that long?


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At 9/24/09 04:58 AM, Coop83 wrote: And so long as they pass selection, surely. Spammy chat, like was the downfall of the NGPD would surely have the same results here.

Well, there's already a system in place to allow guardsmen into the Barracks, but yes, they do have to pass our quality standards, and yes, there will be zero tolerance for spammy chat.

At 9/23/09 10:00 PM, phantomlassuk wrote:
I wasn't shocked at all - warnings were issued, warnings were ignored. Punishment was levied, which may or may not be rescinded at a later date (I believe the latter).

I'm still thinking it might get unlocked, but yes, you are right that there were quite a few warnings over time. Of course, depending on your philosophy on moderation, the time period between stints of problems comes into play when making a decision as to whether or not the thread should be locked or not, which brings me to the next text to quote:

At 9/24/09 09:18 AM, SoulMaster71 wrote: Interestingly enough, looking through those pages there were a few posts by Gooch, who originally thought this club was the problem, and one later admitting that it was the NGPD he didn't like. There were references to him being a mod at the time, certainly he bears the golden aura now, but has the NGPD really been on the mods' nerves that long?

Ah, you saw that, huh? Yeah, the NGPD has a long history like that, unfortunately.

The NGPD got started on the wrong foot right from the beginning, since it was Ramagi that felt it was nothing more than a copycat version of the Elite Guard Barracks. While they showed reason for it to stick around, it still caused problems for the moderators, as it set a precedent that many people tried to follow. I remember seeing what had to be at least 2 dozen "Safety Patroller Club" threads pop up over the following months, which was a constant thorn-in-the-side for the mods. Naturally, this wasn't what caused the problems with the NGPD, but it sure didn't help, as it was easy for them to second-guess whether the club caused more harm than good.

Once signs of mass-voting and one-liners came around, mods were quick to give warnings and threaten with closure. The Unit Ops at the time usually did a good job of quelling any issues and straightening out the thread (especially Peregrinus and Tails), but there were some really large blow-ups. One in particular that still resonates in my head is what happened with mutant-busterjr and his creating a club to maliciously attack spam groups. This created a whole big stink that got not only the NGPD and these spam groups involved, but it also attracted the attention of the mods.

All of these things are in the past, of course, but there were quite a few significant issues there. As of late, I would say that Tails has a good grasp on things and the troubles really aren't a worry, but the one-liner spamming seems to be persistent throughout the thread, at least until Tails lays down the law. While it's easy for someone to say Poozy went too far, there is certainly enough past there that warrants him doing what he did. One could argue that these events are ancient history (and some are), but even still, the problems were there. Either way, I'm sure the situation will resolve itself in one way or another, whether or not it involves the thread being unlocked.

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At 9/24/09 09:56 AM, EagleRock wrote:
At 9/24/09 04:58 AM, Coop83 wrote: And so long as they pass selection, surely. Spammy chat, like was the downfall of the NGPD would surely have the same results here.
Well, there's already a system in place to allow guardsmen into the Barracks, but yes, they do have to pass our quality standards, and yes, there will be zero tolerance for spammy chat.

Just thought I'd like to point that out, in case we got what looked like a merger between the EGB and the NGPD. I don't think the boys in Gold would take too kindly to that.

While it's easy for someone to say Poozy went too far,

I don't think he went too far enough ;) Gotta love Futurama quotes.

there is certainly enough past there that warrants him doing what he did.

Definitely. Can we draw a line under the whole NGPD conversation, as I'd like to think that they can all learn from the mistakes made and go forth from here, while the lack of discussion about it, will help the cause for getting the thread unlocked, if that's what is being planned, though that might be reading between the lines too much.

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Damn it's a slow evening. I guess that's partly because of kids having homework and whatnot. But god, so fucking slow. Oh, I'm only 18 B/P points from ranking up. WOOHOO!

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At 9/24/09 02:13 PM, Coop83 wrote: Just thought I'd like to point that out, in case we got what looked like a merger between the EGB and the NGPD. I don't think the boys in Gold would take too kindly to that.

Fuck the boys in Gold.
EGB has open membership, what the fuck would be the problem of having old NGPD members that fit the criteria being accepted into the ranks?


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See? She's got the right idea. I say, "Come one, come all!" Unless you're a no-talent hack who just flat-out sucks big time. jk jk, seriously, come one, come all.

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At 9/24/09 11:05 AM, Idiot-Finder wrote: Just scroll down and read one of the comments, I think I just pissed off a Mets fan.

Damn...that was harsh...good thing I'm a Yankess fan...

At 9/24/09 02:13 PM, Coop83 wrote: Just thought I'd like to point that out, in case we got what looked like a merger between the EGB and the NGPD. I don't think the boys in Gold would take too kindly to that.

I get your point. But like I said before, we have had guardsmen in the past, and they were held up to the same scrutiny towards post quality and BBS behavior as the full members. Nothing would change in that regard.

Definitely. Can we draw a line under the whole NGPD conversation...

I agree fully. Someone was asking about what happened in the past regarding the link I sent earlier, but i didn't want to rehash the conversation here. If you want to continue discussion about it, there is an open thread in the EGB forums regarding this. I encourage everyone to go voice their opinions/comments there.

At 9/24/09 05:30 PM, KrevZabijak wrote: Fuck the boys in Gold.
EGB has open membership, what the fuck would be the problem of having old NGPD members that fit the criteria being accepted into the ranks?

To answer your question, there wouldn't be a problem accepting NGPD members as long as they passed through our recruitment process. But it should be noted that the requirements for membership/guardsmanship are generally stricter for the EGB than they are in the NGPD.

But I'd ask everyone to refrain from posting about the NGPD at this point. Further discussion should go on our private forum. I don't want any auguments to break out about this, or any arguments at all, for that matter. Also, please don't go insulting moderators in the thread. They're just doing their job. As to whether you agree or disagree with their methods, that's for another discussion in another location. Thanks!

At 9/24/09 05:29 PM, SlntCobra1 wrote: Damn it's a slow evening. I guess that's partly because of kids having homework and whatnot. But god, so fucking slow. Oh, I'm only 18 B/P points from ranking up. WOOHOO!

Portal's slow today for sure. Could just be a post-Madness Day burnout. Hope you get your rankup soon!

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At 9/24/09 05:30 PM, KrevZabijak wrote:
At 9/24/09 02:13 PM, Coop83 wrote: Just thought I'd like to point that out, in case we got what looked like a merger between the EGB and the NGPD. I don't think the boys in Gold would take too kindly to that.
Fuck the boys in Gold.

Yeah, that's a constructive attitude.

EGB has open membership, what the fuck would be the problem of having old NGPD members that fit the criteria being accepted into the ranks?

I'm making a case that we should not accept members of the NGPD on a blanket basis - newer members, such as yourself had to go through selection as should all potential members.

Fitting the criteria is one thing - it's easy enough to get the stats that are needed to qualify for EGB membership, but acting like a dickhead in the thread is not the best of attitudes to have, since we aren't taken by spammy chat in this thread.

If you want to talk to me about a chip on your shoulder, please feel free to PM me - I'm not sure what I've done to incur your wrath, but I'm sure that we can agree why it was an steps to remedy it away from the public domain.

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