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And people question my fear of America? And people question why I criticise the American gov't when I'm not American. And people think America is the friendly neighbour to the south?
America is a threat to Canadian sovereignty, there is no doubting that now. Manifest destiny, 2003.
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Pact would allow U.S. troops into Canada during emergency
Last Updated Mon, 09 Dec 2002 21:49:24
OTTAWA - U.S. troops could find themselves on Canadian territory helping police and firefighters deal with emergencies under a new pact signed by the two countries.
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The new accord says that soldiers from either country could cross the border, but would then be under the command of the host country.
John McCallum
Defence Minister John McCallum said the pact recognizes that threats such as those posed by terrorists or biological agents don't recognize international borders, and continues a long tradition of Canada-U.S. co-operation on dealing with common threats.
The agreement creates a new binational planning group that will draw up plans for deploying military and civilian forces in the event of emergency, including terrorist attacks and natural disasters.
The armed forces would be called in to assist the firefighters, paramedics and police who would be on the front lines of any emergency response.
The planning group will be headed up by Canadian Lt.-Gen. Ken Pennie and include 15-20 military officers from the Canadian and American forces. A number of civilian officials will also be included, McCallum said.
Pennie is currently deputy commander of the North American Aerospace Defence Command, or Norad.
The planning group would co-ordinate joint maritime surveillance, intelligence sharing, and military exercises.
McCallum and Foreign Affairs Minister Bill Graham insisted the plan protects and enhances Canadian sovereignty rather than posing a threat to it.
"The planning group … (puts) Canada in a position to work with the United States on plans to defend North America, plans the United States would otherwise be developing without us," McCallum said.
U.S. forces would only cross the border if Canada requested them, and they would be under Canadian operational command. The planning group would have no forces at its own disposal to deploy.
"Nothing would happen without the go-ahead from the national capitals," Graham told CBC Newsworld.
Canada's air force is already closely integrated with the U.S. defence of continental airspace under Norad.
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To qoute a issue of macleans magazine canada in becoming American lite. The main problem is we have no shared hertige or tradition. American had it's revoltion all we had was trudea talkin to the queen, american had it's civil war, we had a druken bar fight (yes canada did have a 3 hour long civil war). Most canadains know more about american history than they do about there own be it we learn about through tv or that our history that is taught just isn't as interesting. All i know is that if we EVER become to close to the states screw it to hell i'm moving to ireland
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At 12/10/02 01:22 AM, MarijuanaClock wrote: And people question my fear of America? And people question why I criticise the American gov't when I'm not American. And people think America is the friendly neighbour to the south?
America is a threat to Canadian sovereignty, there is no doubting that now. Manifest destiny, 2003.
Well, it was a long time coming anyhow. Bound to happen sometime. At least, the US will finally put those Canadians into shape and show them who's boss of North America: The US!
Just kidding!
The US gov't has reasoned itself into heading into a war with Iraq on the "logic" that in order to defend ourselves, we must attack first. Soon, the US will do the same thing. The gov't will probably claim that most Canadians are "sleeper cells" waiting to launch terrorist attacks on the US and be the "fair" and "peace-loving" nation that it is and invade Canada to "protect" the US and the rest of the world. With Dubya as president and if he is re-elected for a second term, this might actually happen. Of course, it also helps if you're paranoid. Well, better get back stocking rations and clean water for my bomb shelter now!
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At 12/10/02 01:56 AM, Angryjeff wrote: To qoute a issue of macleans magazine canada in becoming American lite. The main problem is we have no shared hertige or tradition.
We have the British heritage and the French heritage.
The War of 1812
Confederation
WWI
WW2
Korea
America had it's revoltion all we had was trudea talkin to the queen, american had it's civil war, we had a druken bar fight (yes canada did have a 3 hour long civil war).
What are you on about, Trudeau acheived the intrduction of Canada's constituion, as opposed to using the British constitution. We achieved political independence in 1868 though, long before Trudeau.
Secondly Canada had two rebellions, upper Canada's rebellion and lower Canada's rebbelion.
Lower Canada's Rebbelion was led by Louis-Joseph Papineau in 1837-1838 to establish a republic in Lower Canada, which corresponds to the Province of Quebec now.
Upper Canada's Rebbelion was led William Lyon MacKenzie to establish a republic in Upper Canada or join the United States of America. It was crushed in a day, but was far from a "bar fight."
Most canadains know more about american history than they do about there own be it we learn about through tv or that our history that is taught just isn't as interesting. All i know is that if we EVER become to close to the states screw it to hell i'm moving to ireland
Canadian History can be quite interesting, you just have to look a little ;)
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At 12/10/02 07:24 PM, MarijuanaClock wrote:At 12/10/02 01:56 AM, Angryjeff wrote: America had it's revoltion all we had was trudea talkin to the queen, american had it's civil war, we had a druken bar fight (yes canada did have a 3 hour long civil war).What are you on about, Trudeau acheived the intrduction of Canada's constituion, as opposed to using the British constitution. We achieved political independence in 1868 though, long before Trudeau.
Secondly Canada had two rebellions, upper Canada's rebellion and lower Canada's rebbelion.
Lower Canada's Rebbelion was led by Louis-Joseph Papineau in 1837-1838 to establish a republic in Lower Canada, which corresponds to the Province of Quebec now.
Upper Canada's Rebbelion was led William Lyon MacKenzie to establish a republic in Upper Canada or join the United States of America. It was crushed in a day, but was far from a "bar fight."
Good information and all, just could you give some more about "The quiet quebec revolution", that shit with louis Riel, or "The October Crisis"?
Most canadains know more about american history than they do about there own be it we learn about through tv or that our history that is taught just isn't as interesting. All i know is that if we EVER become to close to the states screw it to hell i'm moving to irelandCanadian History can be quite interesting, you just have to look a little ;)
Maybe Canadians know more about american history then their own because americans always try to imprint their values/beliefs/society on others?
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At 12/10/02 08:01 PM, The_Raven wrote:
Maybe Canadians know more about american history then their own because americans always try to imprint their values/beliefs/society on others?
CORRECT?
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Maybe Canadians know more about american history then their own because americans always try to imprint their values/beliefs/society on others?
Well, where do Canadians learn of American history. If it is from the Canadian education system that you learn of it, then they are to blame for teaching it. If American History is just common knowledge to other countries through other means, I don't know.
America does push itself upon other countries by ways of culture, but I don't know how that would teach people in Canada about the tea-pot dome scandal or the land rush.
As for moving to Ireland, I agree.
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At 12/10/02 07:24 PM, MarijuanaClock wrote: We have the British heritage and the French heritage.
Yes and without that, all Canadians would be just AMERICANS!! just kidding! That one was from an old episode from "Kids in the Hall."
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At 12/10/02 01:22 AM, MarijuanaClock wrote: And people question my fear of America? And people question why I criticise the American gov't when I'm not American. And people think America is the friendly neighbour to the south?
America is a threat to Canadian sovereignty, there is no doubting that now. Manifest destiny, 2003.
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Pact would allow U.S. troops into Canada during emergency
Last Updated Mon, 09 Dec 2002 21:49:24
OTTAWA - U.S. troops could find themselves on Canadian territory helping police and firefighters deal with emergencies under a new pact signed by the two countries.
Man, That really is bad. I can't believe that America would take such a hostile approach to foreign policy. Let me get this straight, American is using it's resources, tax dollars, and trained personal to assist in Emergency crisis where peoples lives are in danger? I can't believe that America would stoop so low. You have every right to fear America and their wonton policy of assisting victims during times of crisis after mutual agreement from both governments.

