Bringing down the Canadian gov't

[BigBlueBalls]

Looks like us Canadians are in for a Christmas election campaign, thanks to the opposition party picking Monday as the time to bring down the government.

Wheels set in motion for fall of Canada's Liberals

"It has now become evident to all observers that this government has lost the confidence of the House of Commons and must be removed," Stephen Harper, leader of the official opposition Conservative Party, told Parliament.

"Martin remains in the lead in public opinion polls and his Liberals are expected to be re-elected to another minority government."

I think Harper is going to have a tough time winning over Canadians if this scandal, involving former Liberal party members, is the only thing he has to impress us. Also, what will the people think about them dragging us into an election campaign during Christmas?

[bcdemon]

Are people so busy with "The Holidays" that they can't run out and vote? Who cares when the election is, just get the thieves out of Ottawa. Normally I would vote liberal, but not this time, this time I'm going NDP.

[Gtd-Orion]

um it is unlikely that the government will fall after all it's just aa day

[Reverend-Kyle]

At 11/25/05 09:02 AM, bcdemon wrote: Normally I would vote liberal, but not this time, this time I'm going NDP.

Normally I would vote NDP, but I'm pretty sure I'm not going to vote again.

The Liberal Party will probably get re-elected. People aren't going to forget about what the Conservatives did that quick (mid 80's to early 90's)... not here on the east coast, anyway.

(I hope not, anyway.)

[Der-Ubermensch]

At 11/25/05 09:02 AM, bcdemon wrote: but not this time, this time I'm going NDP.

Way to throw away a vote..

Everyone knows the liberals will win again. What matters for this run is that they at least be faced with a staggering opposition during their next mandate. I have the advantage of having a sizable party in my province (Bloc), so its really a given for me. You guys out west need to stick to the conservatives. Layton is just an opportunist who loves sitting on the fence, I'll be damned if I ever endorse him.

[Elfer]

At 11/25/05 10:54 AM, -Ubermensch- wrote:

At 11/25/05 09:02 AM, bcdemon wrote: but not this time, this time I'm going NDP.

Way to throw away a vote..

What are you, American? The NDP here is actually a legitimate party, because they actually win seats in the house of representatives. We need parties like the NDP so we don't fall into a one-party rut like they have in the US.

As for the conservatives, everyone remembers what they did when they were last in federal power, and everyone here in Ontario certainly remembers what happened last time they were in provincial power, ESPECIALLY the students who are now just reaching voting age.

[BigBlueBalls]

At 11/25/05 10:17 AM, -Michael- wrote: I heard about thiss. Why does Paul Martin require the election to be after Christmas vacation?

They should get rid of him immeditly.

No it wasn't him that called it. The opposition is calling the election. Paul Martin wanted to call the election within 30 days after the final Gomery Report, which is in February. So the election would be called in late february and held late March early April.

[Peregrinus]

I guess I'd agree with the statement that the Liberals will win the next election. I'd vote Conservative, but I don't trust Harper. I kinda think that Martin is being quite decent about all this. He's said he'll call an election after Gomery, so let's let it be, and get some REAL work done in the Commons.
We should remember that our tax dollars are paying the salaries of the MP's, so when they waste our time like this, they waste our money. There's a theory: the opposition is wasting taxpayers money in an attempt to bring down a government that may or may not be wasting our money as well.
If we can use the time to work on the poverty issue (here in Ottawa, 15,000 people a day use the services of the food cupboard) etc, then that would make me a happy person.

Just my two cents...

[Redbob86]

Who the hell would vote on Christmas? The only strong demographic would be very lonely people with nothing else to do.

I apologize to any Canadians here who Do plan on voting this Christmas.

[bcdemon]

At 11/25/05 10:54 AM, -Ubermensch- wrote:

At 11/25/05 09:02 AM, bcdemon wrote: but not this time, this time I'm going NDP.

Way to throw away a vote..

It's not throwing away a vote, it's helping make sure the liberals don't get a majority gov. And Harper looks a little too squeeky clean to get my vote. I know the liberals will win, I just don't want them to get a majority thats all.

[SweatyWhiteGuy]

Quick, steal all their maple syrup... they will crumble.

[cylon]

I'll vote NDP, not that it'd make much a difference in my riding.

I think this election will just wind up with another Liberal minority government. I don't have a much of a problem with that, but it'd probably just be toppled again in a year and we're back to another election. :/

[Muntz]

At 11/25/05 09:02 AM, bcdemon wrote:

Normally I would vote liberal, but not this time, this time I'm going NDP.

I don't want to be an ass about it but. If you vote for the NDP its like ur Voting for the conservatives. Its highly unlikely the NDP will win, if you want to ensure the conservatives don't win vote liberal. Better to deal with the devil you know anyway.

[EZ3]

I would seriously vote communist if someone was running in my area. I guess I will have to compromise with NDP.

[mosous-the-n00b]

Unfortunately I am too young to vote. I would have voted for the NDP or some communist or fascist party. Regardless, did anyone else notice how creepy Harper looks?

[Muntz]

I can't stand Harper and I think the NDP is too Socila and will Have us in a defficiet situation in no time. I will vote Liberal since I think they offer a balance between the economic policies of the conservatives and the social of the NDP.

Woot^ for voting

[Elfer]

Look, a single vote doesn't make a difference either way, so just vote for whoever the fuck you want.

[JoeWithAVengence]

Liberals want to push the election back so they can do some major damage control and stay in power. Thus all the other parties are going to bring the election on sooner to stop the liberals from giving more hypocritical bullshit to the public.

[RedScorpion]

Each party doesn't really care about the people's concern for whether or not it's held during the holidays or not; They're just doing it for their own political agenda, what's best for their strategy.

[Jak-o-the-mist]

since the modern concervative party is made up mostly by members of the now defunked reform party if they get into power then many of their reforms would take place and since most of those reforms involve bringing Canada closer together with the United States, which I belive is not in the best intrest of Canada, I will not be voteing for the Concevatives. I am of the opinion that dispite the sponcership scandal the liberal party holds the brightest future for Canada.

[DancingTurkeyGod]

You know what the REAL problem is? All the parties suck. People don't go voting thinking: "Ya, I'm voting for this party because I truly believe they'll put Canada on the right path." We vote for the lesser of the evils. Liberals are corrupt, Conservatives just complain without bringing up other solutions and don't represent the average Canadian's values/concerns, NDP just lurks around and Bloc wants to bring down the whole system (i.e. has no interest in Canadians - Hell, that's their MANDATE!).

I was two weeks too young to vote last time, and now that I can vote, I just don't see the point. I don't even know why they're bringing down the government, because I'm 99% sure the outcome will be the same as last time.

Canadian politics is a sad, sad case....

[BigBlueBalls]

At 11/27/05 11:06 AM, DancingTurkeyGod wrote: You know what the REAL problem is? All the parties suck.

That's true. Too bad a real good clean party couldn't come out sometime and actually make me excited to vote again.

[Muntz]

At 11/27/05 12:35 AM, Elfer wrote: Look, a single vote doesn't make a difference either way, so just vote for whoever the fuck you want.

Actually election rules give the parties money for every vote they get for the next election. So every vote counts in a way now.

[cylon]

At 11/28/05 11:20 PM, snail_262001 wrote:

At 11/27/05 12:35 AM, Elfer wrote: Look, a single vote doesn't make a difference either way, so just vote for whoever the fuck you want.

Actually election rules give the parties money for every vote they get for the next election. So every vote counts in a way now.

$1.75/vote annually for parties who get more than 2% of the votes. It's not much, but it can *really* add up.

[da-pope]

There is no point of voting out here in the west.
The east will stick to the liberals and the west will still be ignored and have there money taken away again and agian...

[morefngdbs]

At 11/26/05 12:01 AM, Redbob86 wrote: Who the hell would vote on Christmas? The only strong demographic would be very lonely people with nothing else to do.

I apologize to any Canadians here who Do plan on voting this Christmas.

;
The vote will not be on Dec.25.
It will probably be near the end of Jan. /06
The politicing will start, has actually already started.
The only good this election will do is take out Martin or Harper.
Which ever one of them loses will lose the popularity of their party.
So they are fighting for their political party leadership ( lives).
I personally say good riddence to both of them.

[7thsister]

Does anyone else realize how much money this stupid campaign to get Martin out of government is going to cost us Canadians in tax money? A LOT. I'm so sick of the backstabbing of the parties that just means more and more spending of our tax dollars on foolishness. Martin will probably be re-elected and the whole thing will be a moot point. Basically an exercise in futility. Yeah, let's make the little people vote yet again and not listen to them and make another minority government and then make them vote again. After all if they're too busy voting every ten minutes we can steal the money right out of their pockets like we did with the sponsorship deal.

[Muntz]

At 11/29/05 12:36 AM, da_pope wrote: There is no point of voting out here in the west.
The east will stick to the liberals and the west will still be ignored and have there money taken away again and agian...

Considering they are lowering taxes!!!!!!!!!!