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Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 17:27:12 Reply

I;ve just watched a documentary on BBC about murders linked with heavy metal. I feel that they talked a load of bullshit as it was a load of priests going "ooooo, children killing each other, ooooooo"

The point theyre missing is the people who believe Slayer lyrics are fucking nuts and that Satanism is just another religion (not to mention that christians have been more sacreligous towards satanists than satanists to christians)

state your views if you think heavy metal causes satanism and satanism is evil, or if you think it's a load of bullshit.


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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 17:29:03 Reply

At 11/24/05 05:27 PM, The_Happy_Cheese_Guy wrote: I;ve just watched a documentary on BBC about murders linked with heavy metal. I feel that they talked a load of bullshit as it was a load of priests going "ooooo, children killing each other, ooooooo"

The point theyre missing is the people who believe Slayer lyrics are fucking nuts and that Satanism is just another religion (not to mention that christians have been more sacreligous towards satanists than satanists to christians)

state your views if you think heavy metal causes satanism and satanism is evil, or if you think it's a load of bullshit.

I agree with you, heavy metal is just music, there is no "satan" to speak of, and satanism doesn't actually dictate the belife of satan, I actually know a satanist, and it appears to be a rather level headed religion. Just for the record Heavy Metal > ALL


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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 17:30:29 Reply

At 11/24/05 05:29 PM, -StrawberryGlock- wrote: I agree with you, heavy metal is just music, there is no "satan" to speak of

Ever listen to Dimmu Borgir? Oh yes, Satans there.


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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 17:30:50 Reply

Yeah - i watched that too.

A lot of the stuff is bullshit - they mentioned 3 murder cases - hundreds of millions of people have listened to the music, yet they only had 3 cases?

I know loads of people who listen to death and black metal and they are just normal people. And the whole thing about it turning people against religion is rubbish - most of the mwere probably not spiritual in the first place.


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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 17:32:39 Reply

Iron Maiden kills kids!


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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 17:33:59 Reply

that priest reminded me of that video of the show host laughing to death when he heres the guest's high pitched voice XD

Seeing they only mentioned about 3 bands out of the millions that exist.....

Its beyind me that anyone could understand Chris Barnes (:P) roaring but even if people do know what he's saying, its for shock factor and not 'kill everyone'. I pity those who have lost relatives (the sacrifice of that girl was fucking stupid) but the people who did those were total physcopaths. So basiclly, you cant really link murder to music.


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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 17:34:23 Reply

At 11/24/05 05:27 PM, The_Happy_Cheese_Guy wrote: I;ve just watched a documentary on BBC about murders linked with heavy metal. I feel that they talked a load of bullshit as it was a load of priests going "ooooo, children killing each other, ooooooo"

The point theyre missing is the people who believe Slayer lyrics are fucking nuts and that Satanism is just another religion (not to mention that christians have been more sacreligous towards satanists than satanists to christians)

state your views if you think heavy metal causes satanism and satanism is evil, or if you think it's a load of bullshit.

That reminds me of when the parents pissed and moaned about Mötley Crüe's Shout At the Devil album. Saying it was satnanic. HOW THE FUCK IS SHOUTING AT THE DEVIL SATANIC? It makes no sense. They said it was telling kids to worship the devil and all this shit. It was the fucking opposite and they didn't get it i think they just needed their tampons.

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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 17:36:21 Reply

Click on rock music


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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 17:36:29 Reply

Heavy metal = satanism = murders...so what does Christianity equal? Oh wait...there was that thing called the Crusades...how many people were killed in that? 40,000 in the first, 2,700 in the third because they were a "burden as prisoners" so right theres almost 43,000. That's just a few more than heavy metal.

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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 17:38:02 Reply

At 11/24/05 05:36 PM, theabominablematt wrote: Click on rock music

I should buy that and take a shit on it..thats a bag of shit and all that.

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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 17:38:32 Reply

At 11/24/05 05:34 PM, carrotcrow13 wrote:
At 11/24/05 05:27 PM, The_Happy_Cheese_Guy wrote: I;ve just watched a documentary on BBC about murders linked with heavy metal. I feel that they talked a load of bullshit as it was a load of priests going "ooooo, children killing each other, ooooooo"

The point theyre missing is the people who believe Slayer lyrics are fucking nuts and that Satanism is just another religion (not to mention that christians have been more sacreligous towards satanists than satanists to christians)

state your views if you think heavy metal causes satanism and satanism is evil, or if you think it's a load of bullshit.
That reminds me of when the parents pissed and moaned about Mötley Crüe's Shout At the Devil album. Saying it was satnanic. HOW THE FUCK IS SHOUTING AT THE DEVIL SATANIC? It makes no sense. They said it was telling kids to worship the devil and all this shit. It was the fucking opposite and they didn't get it i think they just needed their tampons.

Yeah thats pretty wierd.....

Well, choir music and hymns tell you to worship god and that satan hates us all (its also extremely fucking cliched :P) and SOME metal bands create their own little hymns. So i cant see how christians can whine at us for being 'evil'.


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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 17:41:30 Reply

At 11/24/05 05:36 PM, damion61583 wrote: Heavy metal = satanism = murders...so what does Christianity equal? Oh wait...there was that thing called the Crusades...how many people were killed in that? 40,000 in the first, 2,700 in the third because they were a "burden as prisoners" so right theres almost 43,000. That's just a few more than heavy metal.

good point

also, if anyone is gonna whine about satanic sacrifice, isn't all religion about sarifice? Isn't there Lent and Rhamadahn? Didnt Jesus get impaled and hung 30ft in the air with 9 inch nails?


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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 17:43:10 Reply

9 inch Nails was with him?! lol I had to. But seriously thats a good point.

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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 17:53:49 Reply

Hah! Evil people are a product of poverty and deprivation and desperateness, not heavy metal. You occasionally get a nutjob Satanist-offshoot murderer and they rarely listen to Kenny G, but even then it's not Slayer's fucking fault, it's his for being a nutjob fanatic.

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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 18:10:43 Reply

Wow now THATS Seriosuly bullshit

Here comes a rant

Well I just like to point out some things

Whats up with linking Heavy metal with murders?

Just because Slayer say a few thigns that are satanic doesn't mean you have to BELIVE them..

If you believe and follow music lyrics then thats YOUR choice

Just like violent video games...

Don't blame Games or Music, Blame yourself.

Also....Whats up with musical stereotyping?

Just because a few metal or rock songs involve screaming, doesn't mean ALL songs involve screaming....

Some people think that because they heard one screaming song, means ALL types of rock is screaming....

Like the other day....

I was with my friends and then some random people came out of nowhere just to say,"Hey you guys like rock? I like rock too...I mean its awesome right? RAWRARWARARWARAW"

It was obviously sarcasm.....

Then I read the school newspaper and they had a rock/rap debute....

Let me read what some people said...

This guy says,"I like rap alot because its smooth and relaxing....I dont like rock because its too loud"

Wow....what a loser...

Next guy says, "I listen to rap because its cool...I like tupac and biggie....I dont like rock becuase of the way they dress and act"

Now thats one ignorant fuck....

But people always find a way to insult what you listen to...no matter what....

LISTENING TO HEAVY METAL DOES NOT MAKE YOU A SATANIST!

People think that satanism is caused by heavy metal...

Its caused by choice mostly.

People got to get the shit of their brains and look at reality....

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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 18:28:29 Reply

Politicians are just morons. Like that senator trying to stop 25 to Life from making the market. It just irritates me that politicians stick their heads in places they don't belong. Anyway Heavy Metal just seems anfry because its hard driving and loud. Its just like any other type of music there are christian heavy metal bands, satanic heavy metal bands, and just heavy metal bands. Its the lyrics, not the music.

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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 18:44:15 Reply

Ditto fiction! I am so sick of these biased media outlets always bashing metal . Metal is not satanic! And the ones that are are in the minority! How is rap relaxing... rap is pretty fecking violent i don't hear people making a huge fuzz about it.

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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 19:06:11 Reply

At 11/24/05 05:36 PM, theabominablematt wrote: Click on rock music

That takes me back to the last post of LiveCorpse, may he rest in peace.

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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 19:12:47 Reply

Heavy Metal can also hurts their ears (it causes earsplitting).

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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 21:58:06 Reply

ugh, again, there are EXTREMELY FEW bands that actually speak of 'real' satanism, the other bands that you (or anyone else, like the guy that said Dimmu Borgir) think are satanic are just singing about some doubt they have on christianity, or a protest against it, but never truly satanic.. in fact, the ONLY really satanic band I've ever heard in my life is Arkhon Infaustus, then NONE..

so in short, I know it's a load of bullshit

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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 22:18:55 Reply

If a kid is that stupid, he might develop Satanic beliefs from listeninig to Slayer. Parents sould watch what their children listen/watch, if the kid is stupid enough to follow. (PS. SLAYER IS THE GREATEST BAND. EVER. )

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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 22:25:25 Reply

At 11/24/05 05:32 PM, dapperdan1 wrote: Iron Maiden kills kids!

You WISH they were that evil.


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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 22:29:56 Reply

How can heavy metal be evil?

Just because some heavy metal bands have Satanist lyrics doesn't mean a whole genre of music is "evil."

That's like saying guitars are "evil" just because Metallica uses guitars.


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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 22:35:59 Reply

Ok first off, if every one just said they listened to heavy metal and that;s what made them kill/rape/rob someone, then no one would be guilty. There are very few bands that are actually satanists. The people who say music made them commit a crime are more than likely trying to get out of going to jail or are psycopathic.
P.S.- I listen to heavy metal a lot and I haven't gone out and killed someone yet.

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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 23:10:03 Reply

its so fun how ppl like to make connections between music and violence by looking at so few examples. yes heavy metal can (is not always) be violent, loud, anti-christian/church/state, but does that make sumone do anything. like any other music its expresses certain things, in most heavy metal its pointing out problems in the world caused by other things like the government, sumtimes its just random BS put into a song for fun. sorta pathetic how leaders of countries and churches blame a genre of music for a few deaths while the organization they uphold has been resposible for hundreds of thousands of lives.


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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 23:17:41 Reply

heavy metal = teh suxors

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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 23:20:22 Reply

I think its time for you to leave buddy.

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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 23:29:49 Reply

Heavy Metal is not evil. It isnt alive it is a type of music. Now the people who play it and there fans are they evil? Well you gotta look on a broad scale. Yes there might be some sickos out there that fucking rock out to some metal and cut people up. But there are people like me who enjoy some metal groups and are not evil. You cant just lump a bunch of people in same catagory you bitch.


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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-24 23:43:16 Reply

When I was living in Queensland the High School there had an after school satinist meet up thing going on.

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Response to Heavy Metal=Evil? 2005-11-25 05:47:24 Reply

At 11/24/05 11:17 PM, The_bad_news_Bear wrote: heavy metal = teh suxors

The first priest of the tread!!!!!!!!

Or just a clock......

damn


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