gun control registry(Canada)

[MarijuanaClock]

Gun Control Registry

If you live in Canada you have heard the debates and the controversy around gun control. Some questioned it's effectiveness, considering most criminals don't use registered guns anyway. Many believed it would be a a tremendous waste of money, and they were right. In fact, they were right 400 fold. Thats right, the expected 2 million dollar price tag has grown to almost 1 billion dollars. 1 billion dollars for a program that was questionable to begin with.

I would really like to see some accountability in our gov't, it seems as though it has become progressivly more corrupt over the years.

Well the Liberals suck, The PC suck, The Canadian Alliance sucks, looks like I'm voting NDP or M/L-PC next election.

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The opposition parties, which could have forced a vote, agreed with Cauchon's request, sparing the Liberals a public split. But they called the dropped vote a victory.

Some opposition members and Liberal backbenchers are offended by the program, which will likely cost taxpayers $860 million, more than 400 times the original forecast of $2 million, the auditor general reported this week.

FROM DEC. 3, 2002: Auditor general takes aim at gun registry's $1-billion price tag

The opposition and some Liberals have called on Allan Rock to resign because of the costs. He was justice minister when the program was introduced in 1995.

FROM DEC. 4, 2002: Liberals join call for Rock's head over gun registry costs

Allan Rock

Rock said Ontario, Alberta and the gun lobby contributed to the cost increases.

And, he said, some critics in the Liberal party were playing leadership politics.

He told CBC's Newsworld that the bill was working and saving lives, and the controversy over costs should not be an excuse to reopen the debate over gun control.

"Gun control has a lot to do with our values," he said, and "it's saving lives now." Any changes will be made "over my dead body."

Liberal MP John Harvard said he is opposed to spending more because of the Justice Department's failure to explain the spiralling costs.

Rock said when he was minister, all the costs were disclosed.

Anne McLellan, now health minister, succeeded him in Justice when the bill was being implemented. Progressive Conservatives have called for her resignation.

Bloc Québécois leader Gilles Duceppe has linked the gun registry to the Montreal ad agency Groupaction, which has already been connected with government misspending on promotional campaigns.

[Avary]

At 12/5/02 09:58 PM, MarijuanaClock wrote: Gun Control Registry

If you live in Canada you have heard the debates and the controversy around gun control. Some questioned it's effectiveness, considering most criminals don't use registered guns anyway.

That's not true. We all know that the Hell's Angels, Bandidos, Outlaws biker gangs, the Italian mafia from Montreal, the Mohawk Warriors, the russian mafia and the Triads have all registered their weapons. Now in canada there are no criminals whatsoever possessing firearms. ;)

Now we Canadians can sleep well, knowing that only the police and the army have weapons. Like the RCMP officer who killed his wife and severely injured three men with his service pistol. Or the army corporal who stormed Quebec's Legislative Assembly with a submachine-gun, killing four.

[AndyMci]

The Liberals do a lot of questionable things, imho. John John and his little gang of cronies really need to get their act together - hopefully things will improve once Chretien is gone.

[MarijuanaClock]

At 12/7/02 01:49 AM, AndyMci wrote: The Liberals do a lot of questionable things, imho. John John and his little gang of cronies really need to get their act together - hopefully things will improve once Chretien is gone.

Fuck it, I've given up on the liberals. They're to centrist nowadays, they try to please everyone by doing as little as fucking possible. Next election I'm voting either for the NDP, Marxist/Leninists, Marijuana Party, or the Socialist Party of Canada.

[Avary]

You should do the ultimate protest and not vote. Anyways what do you call a country with one-party rule where the elections results are known well in advance? Democracy? We owe that to the damn Bloc Quebecois.

[Avary]

Find out more about gun control laws and the general absurdity Canadians have to put up with: http://www.pierrelemieux.org

[MarijuanaClock]

At 12/7/02 08:43 AM, Avary wrote: You should do the ultimate protest and not vote. Anyways what do you call a country with one-party rule where the elections results are known well in advance? Democracy? We owe that to the damn Bloc Quebecois.

No, we owe that to Ontario!

Western Seperation!

[Avary]

If Alberta separates can I move there? I'm sick and tired of paying taxes and being taxed for paying taxes (another distinc society achivement from Quebec).

[MarijuanaClock]

At 12/8/02 06:32 PM, Avary wrote: If Alberta separates can I move there? I'm sick and tired of paying taxes and being taxed for paying taxes (another distinc society achivement from Quebec).

I'm tired of seeing my federal taxes go to Ontario. We pay federal taxes and we get what in return?

Health care funding here used to be 50% from BC, 50% from Ottawa. Now it's 82% from BC, 18% from Ottawa. And taxes fucking went up! both provincial and Federal! I mean what the fuck!

I'm sick of the east. The West has no say in the country. BC, Alb, and Sask have absolutly no say in this country. It's sickening.

Our gov't will give anything to keep Quebec happy and they ignore the West.

[Avary]

What you need is the Vancouver equivalent of a "Boston Tea Party". Nothing hurts a government like a tax revolt.